This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Yeah. I can’t see the US and Israel accepting a Russian backed nuclear Iran.
The linked header says: "HIMARS rockets have been a 'game changer' in Ukraine, and the US Army is now looking for ways to build up to 500 more." In the body of the article, it says: "Adding 480 new launchers would almost double the world's supply of HIMARS. The US Army has 363 and the Marine Corps another 47. The Army said in 2021 — before Russia attacked Ukraine — that it would seek to increase its force to 547 HIMARS. Romania has 18 HIMARS and US approval to purchase up to 54. Singapore has 18 launchers and Jordan 12."
So which country listed are you worried about reselling HIMARS - the distribution of which is controlled by the US Army?
I think these things happen in 15s, so three more to go. What a shame all those accidents, they should start considering windows that don't open above the ground floor.
And they will replace the Z with a giant L that stands for losers!
Can you imagine that sorry team in gym class dodgeball? There will be blood.
I'm sure Cubans, Venezuelans, and Nicaraguans can't wait to sign up and get deployed to Ukraine in the middle of winter, where they will be frozen and blown to bits.
Why does he think those countries would have any interest in wasting their military forces on Ukraine?
I'm shocked the driver of the car was not finished off by the security team. What could have been a more classic attempt at an assassination? A staged car accident and then the hit attempt.
Ukraine, I'm going to need you to do ME a favor.
I just started a new thread to keep the talk away from the war thread, but access to nukes would be 1 reason. Or nuclear tech. The threat of Nukes why we haven't really joined in actively to support Ukraine, it could be a huge lever with those countries.
No one is going to believe the assessment of someone who rationalizes texting while driving. Move along.
ha, they've really got me shaking in my boots there. That's a veritable who's who of military giants.
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Throws better than Petras, wonder if he has any eligibility after the war?
I know we as a country aren't friends with them, but I don't think that the Cuba of today is a war mongering country looking for a fight on the other side of the planet. The same could probably be said for the others from the Americas.
Heck even Iran and NK probably don't want to sacrifice their soldiers in someone else's war. They seemingly will be content to sell weapons. I think they'd need a really big back scratch(like being given nuclear weapons) to want to get involved on the ground. And at this point I'm not sure how much they'd help aside from being additional cannon fodder. For Iran this isn't a holy war and for NK this would have absolutely nothing to do with their national defense, in fact it would hurt their defense by pulling troops out of country and increasing their vulnerability to the inevitable attack that they are worried about from the south.
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As if anyone in Nicaragua or Venezuela wants to go fight for Russians in Ukraine. What a buffoon.
...and so you bail out of the argument
I'll recognize that as a White Flag acknowledging my point.
Not really North Korea but I could imagine that the rest of the countries might be willing to trade some military personnel for nukes.
I'll jump in here. The military budget is bloated and is full of corruption. The budget has grown exponentially over the last 10-20 years with fewer war machines being made and military personnel diminishing.
The Xshit is hitting the fan. Even Putler's butt buddy has concerns. Hahaha.
www.cnn.com
Putin concedes China has 'questions and concerns' over Russia's faltering invasion of Ukraine | CNN
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday praised China's "balanced position" on the Ukraine war, though he conceded Beijing had "questions and concerns" over the invasion, in what appeared to be a veiled admission of their diverging views over the protracted military assault.
You know that about 40% of the budget goes to payroll, benefits, and healthcare, right?
Does that make it any less corrupt? Should we spend another trillion on planes that don't work? The US's budget is the ten next largest military budgets in the world COMBINED. I'm not saying cut the budget to nothing. I'm saying get rid of the the corruption and fat. The military is spending $778 Billion this year. What are we getting that costs $100 Billion more this year than in 2019?You know that about 40% of the budget goes to payroll, benefits, and healthcare, right?
Probably a discussion for another thread, and this will be my last comment, but I do not accept that our military is "corrupt".
Dont make assumptions and draw your own conclusions unless they're explicitly stated (because its an incorrect assumption) - there is just no talking to someone with as warped view of logic as you have.
Youre data is wrong on every level. 2019 was $734.34B, so we're no near "$100B more" than 2019. ('21 was $801B, '22 was $742 then amended to $777B)
Maybe you should look at it in regards to GDP - far from "exponential", in fact, we're in an overall downtrend.
I'm guessing the F-35 and F-22, both of which had teething troubles like all planes and which function beautifully.
Because of the enviable style and tailoring of his dual-colored button shirt.
Military procurement. Not 'the military'.
I doubt things have changed substantially in the last three years:
Defense Contracting Fraud: A Persistent Problem
By Steven Aftergood • May 10, 2019https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2019/05/defense-contracting-fraud/
During the five year period from 2013-2017, there were 1,059 criminal cases of defense contracting fraud resulting in the conviction of 1,087 defendants, including 409 businesses, according to a newly released Department of Defense report to Congress. There were another 443 fraud-related civil cases resulting in judgments against 546 defendants.
During that same period, the Department of Defense entered into more than 15 million contracts with contractors who had been indicted, fined, and/or convicted of fraud, or who reached settlement agreements. The value of those contracts exceeded $334 billion, according to the DoD report. See Report on Defense Contracting Fraud, DoD report to Congress, December 2018.
The report was prepared in response to a requirement in the FY2018 defense authorization act at the initiative of Sen. Bernie Sanders. It was released this week under the Freedom of Information Act.
A previous report covering the period of 2001-2010 was produced by the Department of Defense in 2011, also at the request of Senator Sanders. The earlier report likewise found extensive fraud including criminal and civil offensive in defense contracting.
“Simply put, the Pentagon continues to be riddled with waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayer funds to a degree unmatched across the federal government,” Sen. Sanders said in 2017. “It is unacceptable that the Department of Defense continues to lose vast sums of taxpayer money because of fraud perpetrated by major defense contractors. This has got to end.”
