I lived in Ukraine for 6 weeks in 2011.
Ukrainian women are VERY stubborn and tough, generally speaking. Good luck to Russia.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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I lived in Ukraine for 6 weeks in 2011.
Ukrainian women are VERY stubborn and tough, generally speaking. Good luck to Russia.
And here at nearly 40 years old I thought I knew all the ways to tell a person to eat shit and die. This is great!
Did anyone catch the Colonel in Tucker Carlson?
"NATO is disintegrating, because Russia and Germany have been allies for hundred's of years."
"NATO is disintegrating, because Russia and Germany have been allies for hundred's of years."
Just for the record, this is gangster as F*ck.Not quite the pew pew but still pretty great.
Moment woman confronts Russian troops
The woman shouted at two of the invaders: 'What the f*** are you doing in our land?' while one of the soldiers in Henichesk, a port city on the sea of Azov, tried to calm her.www.dailymail.co.uk
'Put sunflower seeds in your pockets so they grow on Ukraine soil when you DIE': Moment defiant woman bravely confronts heavily armed Russian troops
- A Ukrainian woman confronted heavily armed Russian soldiers in Henichesk
- Footage shows her asking two troops 'what the f*** are you doing in our land?'
The websites of the Russian government, the Kremlin, the Duma, the Ministry of Defence, and RT were all affected by the apparent cyberattack, with some of the websites slowing down and others being taken offline for extended periods of time throughout the day.
In another post, an account claiming to represent Anonymous said that while its operations were “targeting the Russian government,” there was also “an inevitability that the private sector will most likely be affected too.”
“So, while people around the globe smash your internet providers to bits, understand that it's entirely directed at the actions of the Russian government and Putin,” the account said in a message to Russians.
As a decentralized collective, Anonymous does not have any central hierarchy or leadership and thus its operations have been known to take on a wide range of issues from different political perspectives.
Hackers affiliated with Anonymous have previously attacked US government websites, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the Westboro Baptist Church, ISIS, the Church of Scientology, and the Epilepsy Foundation – which was targeted with flashing strobes in 2008 – among many others.
You can’t spell Prussia without the Russia.
Fake news!!
And, there you have it. Trump's foreign policy in a nutshell. US interests bought and sold for the personal gain of Donald Trump, and the GOP stood to the side with their hands in their pockets nervously whistling a happy tune hoping it all went away. And, now that he's gone folks like Goldy come here and tell us we need to get over Trump, and we are the ones keeping his ambitions alive, as she primes herself to vote for him again in 2024. WHY AREN'T US DIMS STOPPING TRUMP TO KEEP REPUBLICANS FROM HAVING NO CHOICE BUT TO VOTE FOR TRUMP?!
I agree here. I really think it's possible that the only possible positive end game for Putin is/was to take Kyiv incredibly quickly. Not like 6 weeks, like a matter of days.
The only thing that works from a rational perspective is to take Kyiv so quickly and replace their government that the West looks at as basically inevitable. The more pussy NATO nations like Germany and Italy barely have the stomach to oppose the invasion, there's almost no chance they'd have the nuggets to expel Russia or depose the government.
Obviously, holding it against the insurgency is still a huge challenge.
To me, the longer Ukraine holds out, the more moral obligation the West will have. If Ukraine can show it's fall is not inevitable, the pressure to aid them will become overwhelming. And the more resistance, the more brutal and indiscriminate the Russians will become.
To say nothing of Russian pressure at home.
It's pretty impossible to me to see a positive outcome to Russia that doesn't see their taking of Kyiv and replacement of the government extremely quickly.
The next 24-48 hours are likely to be horrific, if speed is as vital to the success plan as I expect. Pray for Ukraine.
War!
HuH!
What is it good for!
“War is the continuation of policy by other means." - Clausewitz
“War is thus an act of force to compel.” - Sun Tzu
If this is Putin’s goal, does he ‘win’?
Update(6:42pmET): Shortly before 1am Kiev time Ukraine's President Zelensky announced: "The enemy’s sabotage forces have entered the capital. Me and my family are remaining."
"We need to talk about a ceasefire with Russia," he added in the video message. Then what followed suggests the brutal reality is finally sinking in that despite years of 'promises' from Washington and the West of a "path to NATO membership" - none of his backers or Ukraine's allies are coming to help:
Putin has no intention of stopping at Ukraine. Next up would be the Baltics. That's why this is so important, and that's why we have to keep the focus on all of the enablers and apologizers in today's GOP.
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If that is similar to Putins end goal we will see WWIII. 0.0% chance the west just allows him to take part of Poland or the Baltics. Unless Trump gets re-elected maybe.
The area know today as Kaliningrad was formerly Prussian Koenigsberg.
Before WW1
After WW1
After WW2
I just don't understand how the West is being blamed for Putin being a Stalin wannabe lunatic. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE WEST DID OR DIDN'T DO! Putin was going to do this no matter what. If you must criticize, you can look at the readiness of the West's response to this. There's a lot to pick at there. I'll admit, I never really thought Putin would actually do this, but that's because all of our leaders acted that way.
I saw this one too... check out my twitter link above for what I thought was a better angle...
Can't tell if it was a Ukranian jet or Russian jet that got shot down.
Yep. I'd say the balance of Twitter reports are that it was a Ukrainian transport flight, which would be very bad if Russia controls the skies. Hoping that the reports it was a Russian plane/missile are correct, although it seems impossible that a missile was shot down.
There's going to be lots of friendly fire incidents, I imagine.
I never thought this story would be outdone. It appears it has.
The story of the NUTS! reply
This story retraces the events of December 22nd, 1944 at Bastogne, Belgium, the day we received German surrender ultimatum and issued the subsequent
www.army.mil
So you think absent Maidan that Putin still invades and annexes Crimea in 2014? That the most Russophile portions of Ukraine would be given cover to rebel against the elected, albeit Putin leaning, President despite the pivot from the EU and NATO that followed his election?
Why?
I think people in the State Department were either too pollyannaish about how Putin would react to our support for what in his eyes are foreign backed ‘MAGAS’ fomenting another color revolution and flipping Crimea to a NATO base, or if the neocons really wanted him to growl and show his teeth and decided to piss on his lawn even after the Kremlin floated Nuland’s tape of who the US would back as the post coup leader weeks before the coup.
You have to admire the luck of the MIC losing Afghanistan as a customer and the uptick in business this brings.
Potato, картофель amiright?
It's absolutely the lack of readiness on the part of our Western European allies. Germany has been derelict in its defense spending (of all countries). The Western Europeans entertained naive notions of being able to be "partners" with Russia and Putin. Germany is shutting down nuclear power plants and they and worthless Italy have turned over their energy needs to the tender mercies of Putin. Insane!
America has been only slightly less stupid in its dealing with Russia. There was no "peace dividend". Russia didn't automatically become a liberal democracy become the USSR collapsed, but we acted like it did. Putin showed his ugly face in 2014 and we basically did nothing. Obama didn't even provide lethal aid to Ukraine. Very naive and stupid.
Then Trump tried to use Ukraine for his campaign against Biden, instead of treating the situation seriously. More idiocy.
Biden comes into office and puts a lid on energy production via regulations, etc. Then he blocks sanctions against Nord Stream 2, only reversing course yesterday. Our leaders have treated Putin and Xi like they're actually reasonable, trustworthy people. These are dangerous, evil dictators in nice business suits. Fools!
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It's obvious that this has been a thing for Putin for at least 10 years now. I mean, you can blame Obama for not doing anything. Well, actually it was all of the west not doing anything and support for doing something was probably at 10% (not sure the actual number but it was really low) so there was no political will to do it.
It's kind of the same as now, although support to fight is slightly higher and I feel like if Russia did try to invade a NATO country there would be strong support for meeting our treaty obligations.
Third tweet here says it all, and applies to China as well. It's time to rethink 40+ years of what has been proven an extremely flawed preemption.
