This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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There's a reason Russia hasn't F'd with NATO members.
As to the appropriate Turkey Shoot referrence.
The “greatest carrier battle of the war” ended with a defeated Admiral Ozawa in full retreat, with a significantly reduced force. The events of 19 June 1944 destroyed the naval air power of Japan, while the attack by U.S. forces the following day focused on the ships of the IJN, almost completely eliminated Japan’s remaining carrier force, wiped out its rebuilt air groups, and gave the American fast carrier task forces virtual control of the seas. For the loss of 123 aircraft and 109 dead, the U.S. destroyed nearly 600 enemy aircraft, sank two enemy fleet carriers, a light carrier, and two oilers, killing nearly 3,000 of the IJN’s pilots and sailors.6
"The Great Marianas Turkey Shoot"
The U.S. Navy’s offensive in the Central Pacific gathered tremendous strength in early 1944 and moved to within striking distance of Japan. With the threat of an American push into the Marianas Islands by June, the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) hoped to protect their home islands. Realizing the...
It is just amazing that by the end of 1944, task force 58 with more than 100 ships and 1,000 aircraft could basically go almost anywhere it wanted and do almost anything it wanted.As to the appropriate Turkey Shoot referrence.
The “greatest carrier battle of the war” ended with a defeated Admiral Ozawa in full retreat, with a significantly reduced force. The events of 19 June 1944 destroyed the naval air power of Japan, while the attack by U.S. forces the following day focused on the ships of the IJN, almost completely eliminated Japan’s remaining carrier force, wiped out its rebuilt air groups, and gave the American fast carrier task forces virtual control of the seas. For the loss of 123 aircraft and 109 dead, the U.S. destroyed nearly 600 enemy aircraft, sank two enemy fleet carriers, a light carrier, and two oilers, killing nearly 3,000 of the IJN’s pilots and sailors.6
"The Great Marianas Turkey Shoot"
The U.S. Navy’s offensive in the Central Pacific gathered tremendous strength in early 1944 and moved to within striking distance of Japan. With the threat of an American push into the Marianas Islands by June, the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) hoped to protect their home islands. Realizing the...www.history.navy.mil
Here's a mind blowing factoid.It is just amazing that by the end of 1944, task force 58 with more than 100 ships and 1,000 aircraft could basically go almost anywhere it wanted and do almost anything it wanted.
If the Japanese had a total victory at Midway....sank all 3 US carriers to 0 Japanese losses.
The US still has more Carriers and Carrier aircraft by late-1943
In other words, even if it had lost catastrophically at the Battle of Midway, the United States Navy still would have broken even with Japan in carriers and naval air power by about September 1943. Nine months later, by the middle of 1944, the U.S. Navy would have enjoyed a nearly two-to-one superiority in carrier aircraft capacity! Not only that, but with her newer, better aircraft designs, the U.S. Navy would have enjoyed not only a substantial numeric, but also a critical qualitative advantage as well, starting in late 1943. All this is not to say that losing the Battle of Midway would not have been a serious blow to American fortunes! For instance, the war would almost certainly have been protracted if the U.S. had been unable to mount some sort of a credible counter-stroke in the Solomons during the latter half of 1942. Without carrier-based air power of some sort there would not have been much hope of doing so, meaning that we would most likely have lost the Solomons. However, the long-term implications are clear: the United States could afford to make good losses that the Japanese simply could not. Furthermore, this comparison does not reflect the fact that the United States actually slowed down its carrier building program in late 1944, as it became increasingly evident that there was less need for them. Had the U.S. lost at Midway, it seems likely that those additional carriers (3 Midway-class and 6 more Essex-Class CVs, plus the Saipan-class CVLs) would have been brought on line more quickly. In a macro-economic sense, then, the Battle of Midway was really a non-event. There was no need for the U.S. to seek a single, decisive battle which would 'Doom Japan' -- Japan was doomed by its very decision to make war.
The final evidence of this economic mismatch lies in the development of the Atomic bomb. The Manhattan Project required an enormous commitment on the part of the United States. And as Paul Kennedy states, "...it was the United States alone which at this time had the productive and technological resources not only to wage two large-scale conventional wars but also to invest the scientists, raw materials, and money (about $2 billion) in the development of a new weapon which might or might not work." In other words, our economy was so dominant that we knew we could afford to fund one of the greatest scientific endeavors in history largely from the 'leftovers' of our war effort! Whatever one may think morally or strategically about the usage of nuclear weapons against Japan, it is clear that their very development was a demonstration of unprecedented economic strength.
Grim Economic Realities
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I always knew Vlad was a republican. Just listen to him.
One BIG problem with that hypothetical... The Enterprise was at Midway.
Enterprise was un-sinkable.
Yep...think US war planes vs Saddam's Republican Guard photos.
Which is why Vlad will never use nukes .
"Originally from Tennessee, Elvis fought in Ukraine because he was horrified by Russia's invasion of the country. While there, he said he repeatedly witnessed Russian forces using white phosphorus munitions — something Russia previously denied.
"It comes down extremely slow, but there's nothing you can do, and everything it touches just incinerates," Elvis said, describing one incident where he witnessed between 20 and 30 Ukrainian fighters "burning alive" before some committed suicide to end their suffering.
"A lot of guys have suicide pistols, and you'd hear them scream, and then they would say goodbye and then blow their own heads off," he said.
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"It comes down extremely slow, but there's nothing you can do, and everything it touches just incinerates," Elvis said, describing one incident where he witnessed between 20 and 30 Ukrainian fighters "burning alive" before some committed suicide to end their suffering.
"A lot of guys have suicide pistols, and you'd hear them scream, and then they would say goodbye and then blow their own heads off," he said.
American fighter in Ukraine describes the "pure evil" of Russia's war
"Anybody in the West that asks Ukraine to just do peace talks ... they need to see what's been done to these people," said the fighter from Tennessee.
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I think it's time for another strike on the Crimean bridge.
I still like turning the volume off on these "blowing up Russian shit" compilations and playing the Dickies Banana Splits song while watching...
COME ON!!!
We're 30 short of enough dead Russkies to fill Kinnick Stadium to capacity!!!
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Will probably be the epitaph for our planet, sigh.
Christ on a Stick the lack of awareness of that one. Permanent victim paranoid delusional.
Like who the fock wanted to invade Russia pre-Feb 2022? We simply seek to limit your poisonous, evil influence on your neighbors at their request! They are all sick of your shit you vile POS. Good lawd i detest this human being.
These are the interviews which make me really feel for the poor conscripted bastards who don't want to be there.
I seem to recall these violate the Geneva Convention. Is that not the case any longer?
Our offense still wouldn't be able to move against the Russian defensive lines.
Does the Geneva Convention apply to terrorist war criminals?
As a general rule, i don't think these interviews are appropriate. Even so, I don't feel bad for any of these guys. They would be committing war crimes and stealing washing machines had they not been caught.
I can respect that opinion. I also think if he wanted to be interviewed and consented, then he can do so. Of course, on the other hand, there is "consent" and then there is "consent". With that being said, he either wanted to be filmed giving his statement, or he should be up for an Oscar.
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"There is now just as much gas in Ukrainian underground storage as in the Netherlands. But NL is 92% filled. Egg skwieso well filled. Ukraine is still only 32%. European companies are welcome. Opportunity? #ukraine #gas #gasstorage"
First Two NASAMS Air Defense Systems Are In Ukraine: Raytheon CEO
The U.S has promised eight NASAMS batteries and an unspecified amount of ammunition to help Ukraine deal with Russian missiles and drones.
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I've seen video of that base, and it's cool in a decrepit, the roofs are falling in kind of way. I support the Russians spending money to rehab a base designed to park nuclear submarines while they get rocked on the battlefield.
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