Same applies to “welfare cheats” vs. grifter cheats like big orange. You know, the guy barred from running charitable organizations in New York State.
You can penalize a million small peeps or one big acehole.
I wonder if Trump is among the 1,600?
Same applies to “welfare cheats” vs. grifter cheats like big orange. You know, the guy barred from running charitable organizations in New York State.
You can penalize a million small peeps or one big acehole.
.”He said 1,600 millionaires who owe at least $250,000 each in back taxes and 75 large business partnerships that have assets of roughly $10 billion on average are targeted for the new “compliance efforts.”
What exactly is the problem with this?
Oh, is that what they’re doing?Okay, let's go down this rabbit hole....
Do you want the police to only arrest drunk drivers who own luxury cars and can afford to pay big fines?
Oh, is that what they’re doing?
Refer back to post #41. Much more more bang for the buck.Yes. They specifically said they're targeting millionaires, thus violating the Due Process clause of the Constitution.
Refer back to post #41. Much more more bang for the buck.
Or, just do the trad dance.
I see it’sTrad’s been drinking and wants to be argumentative night. Excellent! Your analogy was they were only going to arrest drivers of luxury cars -that’s not what they’re doing here. This is a targeted initiative aimed at people who apparently owe millions in back taxes. Show me where it says. They are foregoing all other tax collection efforts and auditing.Yes. They specifically said they're targeting millionaires, thus violating the Due Process clause of the Constitution.
I thought they were the ones getting all the government money? 🤣Obviously, there's no use in going after poor tax cheats because they have no money to seize or garnish.
just stopHow about the Equal Protection clause?
Or do you just want to eat the rich and to hell with the Bill of Rights?
I see it’sTrad’s been drinking and wants to be argumentative night. Excellent! Your analogy was they were only going to arrest drivers of luxury cars -that’s not what they’re doing here. This is a targeted initiative aimed at people who apparently owe millions in back taxes. Show me where it says. They are foregoing all other tax collection efforts and auditing.
Don’t be silly.
More like going after the rich who don’t want to pay their taxes. Again I ask, what’s the problem?Don't be naïve... "going after the rich" is a priority of this leftist administration.
More like going after the rich who don’t want to pay their taxes. Again I ask, what’s the problem?
And? What is the problem with paying taxes that you owe?If you don't think these AI tools won't be used against people like Joe the Plumber (RIP) then I don't know what to tell you.
And? What is the problem with paying taxes that you owe?
See trad dance.How about the Equal Protection clause?
Or do you just want to eat the rich and to hell with the Bill of Rights?
As the Washington Post's Catherine Rampell highlighted, a group of researchers found that every $1 the IRS spends auditing a very high-income taxpayer yields over $6 in revenue from audit collections.Jul 20, 2023It takes money to collect money I guess?
A simpler tax code could increase the ROI there....
See trad dance.
Per post #14, $6 revenue for every dollar spent chasing cheat. That is a good ROI.
As the Washington Post's Catherine Rampell highlighted, a group of researchers found that every $1 the IRS spends auditing a very high-income taxpayer yields over $6 in revenue from audit collections.Jul 20, 2023
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57444
Collecting delinquent taxes from tax cheats? Sure, that’s what I’d like the IRS to do. If the government is going to levy taxes they should probably collect what’s owed.Whether you owe anything would ultimately be decided in court. Of course, even if you win in court you spend a fortune to defend yourself. Lose-lose proposition. Better to just give them what they want.
Is this what you want your government to be doing?
Collecting delinquent taxes from tax cheats? Sure, that’s what I’d like the IRS to do. If the government is going to levy taxes they should probably collect what’s owed.
Sure thing, Trad.I guess you missed the point. The IRS can be (and has been) used as a weapon. I suspect that's going on here with the 1,600.
Sure thing, Trad.
See the Degen thread. I guarantee there's not a single person in there reporting their income as the tax laws say they should
In other news, day is different than night.You know what Florida spends to collect personal income taxes?
$0.00
Because Florida doesn't have a personal income tax. Imagine that.
I hate paying taxes but recognize they’re necessary to a functioning society. I’ve been audited a number of times and have paid tons of taxes over the years. Never felt like I had to pay anything I didn’t owe according to the law.Let's watch and see what happens. Maybe it'll just be pro athletes and rap stars.
In other news, day is different than night.
You used to spend a lot of time arguing for a 10% flat tax. Now you want to keep defending tax cheats so that working stiffs like you can continue paying a higher rate.
Florida equals property taxes and fees, and being a drain on the country since they receive more from the federal system than they pay in.No, I argued for the FAIR TAX which is a national sales tax (with a pre-bate to poor people to offset taxes on necessities).
Like how Florida raises revenue.
I hate paying taxes but recognize they’re necessary to a functioning society. I’ve been audited a number of times and have paid tons of taxes over the years. Never felt like I had to pay anything I didn’t owe according to the law.
That’s not an enforcement issue, that’s a tax law issue.There is absolute NO reason our tax structure should require that we disclose every dollar we made somehow, and from whom we obtained it, and who we gave money to, and on and on and on. That's the opposite of freedom and liberty.
There are better ways of doing this, but then government loses a shit-load of data on us, and more importantly, control.
That’s not an enforcement issue, that’s a tax law issue.
That’s not an enforcement issue, that’s a tax law issue.
Pic of wife?A couple of years ago my wife and I bought some property in Florida from an individual from England. A year later the IRS declared we owed around $15000 in taxes on the deal. They threatened the hell out of us. We finally paid it to get them off our backs, but my wife went after them. Now she is a lot more intelligent than I am so she handled everything. I am just a rumdum. Well, after another year the IRS sent us a check and an apology. There was no interest paid on the money we sent sent to them.
I did make a long story short here.
Yes. They specifically said they're targeting millionaires, thus violating the Due Process clause of the Constitution.
Good grief, Trad. Your warped logic never ceases to amaze me. Do you realize there are 22 million millionaires in the US. The IRS is targeting the 1600 because they haven't paid a lot of taxes that are owed. Not sure why you are so concerned about the 1600 tax cheats.I guess you missed the point. The IRS can be (and has been) used as a weapon. I suspect that's going on here with the 1,600.
Good grief, Trad. Your warped logic never ceases to amaze me. Do you realize there are 22 million millionaires in the US. The IRS is targeting the 1600 because they haven't paid a lot of taxes that are owed. Not sure why you are so concerned about the 1600 tax cheats.
Again, if you pay your taxes you have nothing to worry about. Al Capone didn't pay his taxes and he left a paper trail. What is it again....that's right, just obey the law!They couldn't nail Al Capone for racketeering, or murder, any of his other gangland crimes...
But they can nail anyone with the tax code. And it's 1,000X worse today.
Again, if you pay your taxes you have nothing to worry about. Al Capone didn't pay his taxes and he left a paper trail. What is it again....that's right, just obey the law!
Isn't that the way it is now?Whether you owe anything would ultimately be decided in court. Of course, even if you win in court you spend a fortune to defend yourself. Lose-lose proposition. Better to just give them what they want.
Is this what you want your government to be doing?
Isn't that the way it is now?
No, I've been paying taxes for over 50 years and don't see a problem with it.And you don't see a problem with that?