thought now would be a good time to

[nitewing]

put a starting 5 with the 6th man.

1 JBo
2 Moss
3 Daily as I feel this is the year he steps up
4 Cook
5 Garza
6 Baer

the backups
1 Ellingson
2 Williams
3 Uhl/Wagner
4 Nunge/Pemsl
5 Kriener
Connor RS until he makes it official one way or another

opinions and thoughts are welcome but please if all you can do is be a ARSE about it keep it to yourself. this is thread for honest and knowledge thoughts and posts

 

[StatisticsLie]

No, just no. Dailey has been injured and has not seen significant minutes leading up to this year and now he's your starter with Baer still the 6th man?

 

[nitewing]

No, just no. Dailey has been injured and has not seen significant minutes leading up to this year and now he's your starter with Baer still the 6th man?

Baer has stated he prefer coming off the bench and the bench does need a leader and who better than Baer to be that leader. but as I posted post your opinion on who should start and who should come in as backups.

I almost put Uhl as the starter at the 3 as this is his SR year and his last chance to make a statement.

also I was under the impression that the 1st game was not till Nov 10th. plenty of time for Dailey and Williams to get 100% healthy.

 

[nitewing]

stats lie please list your starters and their backups as that is what I asked for not a argument.

 

[perryhawk]

I think Daily has a ton of potential....hate it when I heard talk of him transferring (from posters-not anyone in the program). I think his length, athletic ability, BB IQ, and skills are tremendous. He obviously lacked strength during his freshman year......and not so obvious, my one reservation is if he is assertive enough. That isn't easy to teach in my opinion, but who knows. I really think that if he had JB's fearlessness and/or Baer's or Wagner's motor he would be very hard to keep out of the starting line up. Not predicting he will be there.

 

[DanL53]

I'll play around with my best guesses but if I had to state my true view it would be that right now even Fran isn't sure, nor should he be.

But let's say Wisconsin shows up at Carver tomorrow and wants to throw down. Yeah, come on down Badgers!

So we have a game and now we have to have a lineup. And Fran says, we gotta get that DanL guy and see what he can do. Here's my plan.

Jbo
Moss
Baer
Cook
Keiner/Garza (I don't care who starts, rock paper scissors is alright to decide.)

Pemsl
Ellingson

Williams possibly if healthy.

Uhl, Wagner, Dailey, Nunge....I'm looking at these last five guys counting Williams and I want to find two more players...haven't decided who yet.

But that's for sure my eight guys. And after we mop up the Badgers and the game is all but over, I'm going to play around with something I've been thinking about.

Now, everybody calm down, I don't really get to run the team so this is just talk...

PG: Bohannon, Moss???? (Hmmm, hmmm? I saw Moss bringing the ball up in high school...hmmm?)
SG: Moss, BAER!?!?!? (We might as well accept that we'll play a lot of zone anyway. Let's go big!!!)
SF: Baer, Uhl, Wagner, Nunge, Cook, Pemsl?!?!

Folks should be getting my idea. IF we have trouble filling roles behind Moss and Bohannon....go zone and go big!

 

[unIowa]

put a starting 5 with the 6th man.

1 JBo
2 Moss
3 Daily as I feel this is the year he steps up
4 Cook
5 Garza
6 Baer

the backups
1 Ellingson
2 Williams
3 Uhl/Wagner
4 Nunge/Pemsl
5 Kriener
Connor RS until he makes it official one way or another

opinions and thoughts are welcome but please if all you can do is be a ARSE about it keep it to yourself. this is thread for honest and knowledge thoughts and posts

Daily starting and Ellingson as the back-up PG??? Sorry, I am not seeing that at all.

 

[Legend12]

Daily starting and Ellingson as the back-up PG??? Sorry, I am not seeing that at all.

Consider the source.

 

[ICTrojans99]

1. Bohannon\Williams\Ellingson
2. Moss\Ellingson\Dailey
3. Baer\Dailey\Nunge
4. Cook\Pemsl\Nunge
5. Garza\Kriener\Nunge

• Wagner & Uhl have put in a lot of effort for this team and I have great respect for them, but factoring in whats best for this team both now and later this is what I would do
• Just don't know how you keep Nunge off the court. If he puts on 20 pounds or so and he can defend the PF position, I think he's our best NBA prospect. Don't think he's qoing to be quick enough to defend the 3 in the NBA
• Would like to see Dailey get a shot at SF and or SG, really like his potential
• I think we should play at least 10 to fully utilize our depth and be as healthy as possible at the end of the year. Only playing more than 10 in blowouts as you don't want to short change your best talent
• Not a fan of full platoons outside of the first few games

 

[StormHawk42]

Can't tell if it's herby/Kilroy or not

 

[Legend12]

Can't tell if it's herby/Kilroy or not

100% it is.

 

[unIowa]

1. Bohannon\Williams\Ellingson
2. Moss\Ellingson\Dailey
3. Baer\Dailey\Nunge\Williams
4. Cook\Pemsl\Nunge
5. Garza\Kriener\Nunge

• Wagner & Uhl have put in a lot of effort for this team and I have great respect for them but factoring in whats best for this team both now and later this is what I would do
• Just don't know how you keep Nunge off the court If he puts on 20 pounds or so and he can defend the PF position, I think he's our best NBA prospect Don't think he's qoing to be quick enough to defend the 3 in the NBA
• Would like to see Dailey get a shot at SF and or SG, really like his potential

I guess Dailey's family members are posting in here now. I also don't see how you put Wagner in the category of getting next to no minutes. He and Christian Williams are probably the best defenders the team has, hell I can see Wagner starting if the defense plays poorly again this season.

 

[unIowa]

Sorry big guy but Williams and Wagner both belong on a football field neither will ever be much better than what they have been so far. If you want guys with way more potential to transfer so those guys can play ok I guess

No they don't, Wagner will play significant minutes.

 

[unIowa]

Dailey has more basketball skill than Williams and Wagner put together

Whatever you say Mrs. Dailey.

 

[HeRKeYHoPeFuL]

1. Bohannon (28-30 min) // Williams (8 min) // Ellingson (2-4 min)
2. Moss (24 min) // Ellingson (12 min) // Dailey (4 min)
3. Baer (22 min) // Uhl (12 min) // Wagner (6 min)
4. Cook (20 min) // Pemsl (16 min) // Nunge (4 min)
5. Garza (16 min) // Kriener (16 min) // Cook (4 min) // Nunge (4 min)

I think finding options to spell Bohannon will be critical, as he can be a real weapon if he doesn't wear down. I think Cook and Pemsl will likely continue to platoon the "4" and Garza and Kriener will handle the majority of the "5" with a handful of minutes split between other bigs depending on matchups/fouls.

I question how many minutes Baer can realistically handle given his style. He leaves it all out there, but he really needs his breaks to reset for his next shift. Dude seems like he would have been great as a penalty killer if he could had the skating skills to play hockey. Crazy infectious energy.

I'm really not that concerned with our 2/3 spots, as I think most of the options are pretty capable and playing time within the individual games will just come down to matchups. I'd expect to see Moss, Williams, and Dailey more against athletic teams and more Bohannon/Ellingson against shooters.

Dailey seems to be the one guard that could end up as the odd man out, but we have yet to see him in any sort of significant role/opportunity, so keep that one in pencil. Uhl and Wagner are tough because we've just been able to recruit players that seem to be better/more skilled. We'll need their bodies due to injuries and foul trouble, but I think the team will likely see more success if we are able to limit their roles.

Nunge is also tough to peg, as he seems to have a scoring knack, but there are so many other bodies that I don't know what kind of opportunities he will really see outside of spot minutes here and there or rotating in when fouls pile up.

 

[Legend12]

Regardless why do you ****heads have to talk so much shit on here ? Its an opinion can't people have them ?

Stupid opinions should be mocked and criticized so the person holding such opinions knows how dumb they are.

And a word of advice for you....taking killroy/herbie/nitewing's side in about anything will lead you down the wrong internet path.

 

[mtdew_fever]

Uhl looks the part, but does he continue to get minutes without much to show?

 

[StatisticsLie]

stats lie please list your starters and their backups as that is what I asked for not a argument.

JBo/Williams
Moss/Ellingson
Baer/Uhl
Cook/Pemsl
Garza/Kriener

You won't see a guy who wasn't in 2-deeps (Dailey) jump to starter. You could make an argument that Baer won't start due to making more balanced 2nd rotation/enjoys being the energy guy off the bench but suggesting Dailey, who played in less than 1/3 of the games last year and averaged under 3 points a game makes the leap from end of the bench to starter is why your line-up is ridiculous.

Uhl gets the back-up purely from the senior aspect and Dailey could take that spot but I'd be more willing to believe Nunge takes that spot from Uhl than Dailey at this point.

 

[RocknRollface]

Can't tell if it's herby/Kilroy or not

When he first shows up he takes a little more time putting his posts together in an attempt to be somewhat coherent and less obvious.

It will only last a few days.

The countdown to ban time has begun.

 

[StormHawk42]

When he first shows up he takes a little more time putting his posts together in an attempt to be somewhat coherent and less obvious.

It will only last a few days.

The countdown to ban time has begun.

True but he didn't include any stars so that's what made me pause

 

[unIowa]

JBo/Williams
Moss/Ellingson
Baer/Uhl
Cook/Pemsl
Garza/Kriener

You won't see a guy who wasn't in 2-deeps (Dailey) jump to starter. You could make an argument that Baer won't start due to making more balanced 2nd rotation/enjoys being the energy guy off the bench but suggesting Dailey, who played in less than 1/3 of the games last year and averaged under 3 points a game makes the leap from end of the bench to starter is why your line-up is ridiculous.

Uhl gets the back-up purely from the senior aspect and Dailey could take that spot but I'd be more willing to believe Nunge takes that spot from Uhl than Dailey at this point.

If Uhl ups his game a bit and with the depth chart looking the way it does I am not sure Nunge shouldn't just red shirt. That isn't me saying I don't think he is or will be a really good player for Fran, more so it is me thinking he will be REALLY good as he matures as a player. I am not for redshirts in hoops unless it is for injury reason OR you have a big that you feel will be a heavy contributor in the future but just needs to develop a bit more OR one who is currently buried today. I am not for average players getting a RS in basketball.

 

[nu2u]

1. Bohannon\Williams\Ellingson
2. Moss\Ellingson\Dailey
3. Baer\Dailey\Nunge
4. Cook\Pemsl\Nunge
5. Garza\Kriener\Nunge

........Just don't know how you keep Nunge off the court.

I know how - by making him the 3rd best option at any position he could play.

 

[nitewing]

William is still hurt and recovering from a back injury, Daily was hurt plus he is a good defender and ball handler which makes him a canidate to start or be a backup 2 or 3. Fran has stated that Ellingson will be a backup at PG, I like what he did last season in a limited role impressed me.
14.2 mpg, 37 assists, 14 TO's and 11 steals, Ellingson does not hurt the team when he is on the floor plus he had another shooter. @44.1% from the field, 47.1 % from 3 and he did go 18-18 from the FTL. I also like his 6'4 height as well. this makes him even harder to defend as he can play the 1-2-3,

Fran is not using the traditional
PG, SG, SF, PF or C as he is going to a 1-2-3-4-5 line up, Defensive improvement will be the key to the upcoming season, the scoring will not be a problem.

last season Cook was hampered due having surgery on his hand which affected his shooting and rebounding
Pemsl bone spurs and needing surgery slowed him down
Kriener missed DEC because of a foot injury.

the 3 tallest players were hurt and missed playing time, these being fully healthy will improve rebounding, scoring and blocking shots will improve the defense.

Garza give Fran that 6'11 presence in the middle and his ability to shoot the 3 as he shot 48% from 3 in HS forces team to come protect the outside when he is in the game.

 

[DanL53]

1. Not quick enough to defend the 3 in man to man against 3 guard lineups
2. Cook & Pemsl are just flat out better rite now
3. Don't think he's heavy enough to bang against 5's
4. There are a lot of smart ass dumb ****s on this board
5. I didn't force you to marry the ugly ass bitch that makes you so negative

1) Yeah, we have a lot of guys we are wondering about on defense. Which is why I say embrace the zone(s).
2) Yup, four is deep,deep, deep.
3) Plus we have other guys and again, deep, deep, deep.
4) Yup.
5) Don't blame the wives....they gotta deal with it in real life.

 

[nitewing]

1. Not quick enough to defend the 3 in man to man against 3 guard lineups
2. Cook & Pemsl are just flat out better rite now
3. Don't think he's heavy enough to bang against 5's
4. There are a lot of smart ass dumb ****s on this board
5. I didn't force you to marry the ugly ass bitch that makes you so negative

Fran does not want 250 lb players at every positions Uthoff was only 225 lbs, and Olaseni was only 220 lbs. Nunge weighs 220 lbs and will be used just like Uthoff was,

 

[nu2u]

1. Not quick enough to defend the 3 in man to man against 3 guard lineups
2. Cook & Pemsl are just flat out better rite now
3. Don't think he's heavy enough to bang against 5's
4. There are a lot of smart ass dumb ****s on this board
5. I didn't force you to marry the ugly ass bitch that makes you so negative

What the hell is wrong with you?

First you declare that Nunge is to good to keep off the court; that you "just don't know how you keep Nunge off the court". You then follow that pronouncement with a list of reasons why he can't get on the court. Makes no sense.

If you want to argue with yourself, fine with me. I see Kilroy made it back for another run -- maybe you two scholars can start up a conversation and take turns talking in circles.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

JBo-Williams
Moss-Ellingson
Nunge-Baer
Cook-Pemsl
Kreiner-Garza

6. Baer
7.Pemsl
8. Garza

Hope Fran can still bring in a JUCO PG before the season starts somehow.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

I don't know what the starting five and rotation are going to be, but Dailey has a much better chance of not being in the rotation than starting. Not knocking the kid, but he had no meaningful time last year, when he burned a possible redshirt, and being injured has to have hurt his chance to earn some of Jok's minutes. I would be glad to be proven wrong...

 

[Suterman]

JBo
Moss
Baer
Cook
Garza/Kriener

I really think this is the lineup. Whoever looks the best in practice will start between Garza and Kriener. I think Dailey is #12 or #13.

 

[terrehawk]

**** you go take care of your little retard gook

Banhammer coming in 3, 2, 1....

 

[StatisticsLie]

**** you go take care of your little retard gook

Well that escalated quickly

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

What the hell is wrong with you?

First you declare that Nunge is to good to keep off the court; that you "just don't know how you keep Nunge off the court". You then follow that pronouncement with a list of reasons why he can't get on the court. Makes no sense.

If you want to argue with yourself, fine with me. I see Kilroy made it back for another run -- maybe you two scholars can start up a conversation and take turns talking in circles.

nu2u i hadnt read the post you were responding to at first when i replied "relax man" your post was just above my reply to the OP. sorry. ICtrojans way out of line.

 

[cleotishaywood]

As for Jack Nunge, he may surprise everyone and be kinda like Aaron White was as a freshman when nobody really expected too much from him. He definitely has the potential and hopefully he has that chip on his shoulder like White had.

 

[nitewing]

JBo-Williams
Moss-Ellingson
Nunge-Baer
Cook-Pemsl
Kreiner-Garza

6. Baer
7.Pemsl
8. Garza

Hope Fran can still bring in a JUCO PG before the season starts somehow.

he can't as school has already started. as for Dailey he was playing behind these, Moss, Jok, Baer, Williams and Ellingson to get any meaningful minutes. nice to see that thing have not changed where posters throw FR under the bus because they didn't produce up to posters expectations.

 

[hawksense]

I wish we could pencil in DJ Carton as a starter. We really need this kid.

 

[nitewing]

I wish we could pencil in DJ Carton as a starter. We really need this kid.

may I ask why. JBo did just fine as he was just 1 of 2 players to have 175 assists and 85+ made 3's in the last 25 years in a season. reguardless of class.

 

[nitewing]

just read the thread about who will start
JBo
Moss
Baer
Cook
Garza
with players getting a shot at starting at the 2 and 3 positions. my feelings on Nunge is that he will split time at the 4 and 5, this is to maximize his 6'11 frame and he is supposed to be up to 225 lbs now. Nunge is more like Uthoff in his ability to rebound, block shots and shoot the 3.

right now Fran has plenty of options at the 3 that Nunge can concentrate on the 4 position, which is where White and Uthoff finally ended up. Fran no longer has to use players in spots that are not a natural spot,

not saying Nunge can't play the 3 but when you have these that can play the 3 in Baer, Dailey, Uhl and Wagner, utilize his height and skill set where it will be best used.

 

[DanL53]

sigh........

 

[ParkerHawk]

Baer has stated he prefer coming off the bench and the bench does need a leader and who better than Baer to be that leader. but as I posted post your opinion on who should start and who should come in as backups.

I almost put Uhl as the starter at the 3 as this is his SR year and his last chance to make a statement.

also I was under the impression that the 1st game was not till Nov 10th. plenty of time for Dailey and Williams to get 100% healthy.

Fran pretty much said Baer would start at the 3

 

[nitewing]

w

sigh........

what's the matter nobody is kissing your arse. and this is my opinion. I look at what a player can do and where he can do the most damage vs the opposing defenses.

Fran has a well stocked team of versatile players, so no need to use someone where there are better options, Baer is a proven player, Wagner is athletic and fast enough to guard any 3 that Iowa will face. Uhl despite all the venom directed at him has done this played dbl digit minutes all 3 years. to expect this to continue and he has always had to play out of position,

Dailey was just a FR for Christ sake and he is already being thrown under the bus, why because he did not score enough points his freshmen year to make these posters happy so its under the bus he go with the same rhetoric, can't improve blah blah blah.