WTF? It's absurd to suggest that it's a "red flag" for a kid to be old for their grade.
Appears you have no idea what "red flag" refers to.
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Appears you have no idea what "red flag" refers to.
And I've spend today answering your question in this post:
There are many normal well adjusted kids that turn 15 in 8th grade.
One of us doesn't, that's for sure. The question was and is, "was this kid on the radar?". I'm sure she was and problems in school leading her to be held back at some point would be part of it. It's a piece of the puzzle which is why is said ONE of many.
Think of it like a poster who laugh reacts to every single post someone else makes. By itself it's not necessarily indicative of being a loser, but it's a piece of the puzzle... when combined with hundreds of stupid posts it helps completes the picture.
Again, in December of 8th grade, which indicates he/she was held back at some point. You keep omitting that point intentionally. And btw, we're talking about this specific individual, who killed people yesterday. Her issues in school we're obviously a significant factor wouldn't you agree?
Why are you sure she was? Because she was old for her grade? Again, that's absurd.
Your ignorance is exceeded by your lack of wit.
With that in mind what is the cut off birth month for it being "normal" to turn 7 in kindergarten? I mean are you well adjusted if your birthday is June 1, but not if it's May 31?
Why would these teachers hold her back if they knew it would cause her to be a mass murderer? Seems to me that they need to be held responsible.
The possibility of creating a mass murderer is definitely a strong case for social promotion.
Hold on, you actually think people didn't have mental health issues until after guns were created? There has always been mental health issues as long as there have been people. Today there are more guns and certainly more dangerous guns than there has ever been. It's not much of a school shooting if someone walks into the school with a musket. We're also seeing the "new normal" with the more school shooting. Twenty years ago no one would have though the new normal was for the president to try and hang the vice president, but here we are. The new normal is for kids to be mad and go get a gun. As a country we've allowed that to happen and now we have to deal with our new normal. The question is, what do you do to make a change to reverse back to the old normal. Until people are willing to make that change, we're stuck with the new. Enjoy and celebrate it. For me, I can't wait for the next administration and the next VP hanging, that's entertainment.
So you're still going with this. Tell us, in all your years of teaching Kindergarten, how many kids did you have turn 7 in December or earlier? Not summer birthdays, December or earlier. I'd bet it was less than 5 and more likely 0 unless there were extremely unique circumstances.
The point is she was 15 in December of 8th grade bc she more than likely had issues in school at some point.
No - the point is you jumped to some really foolish conclusions based on this girl being old for her grade.
They've gotta grasp onto something since the whole trans thing fell through.
There's a difference between being old for your grade and being 15 in December of 8th grade. You not realizing this is the real ignorance. It simply doesn't happen unless someone is held back or starts school a year late. Period.
No one is grasping at anything.
She was a year behind in school. Fact.
She was a troubled kid. Fact.
That's all. There's nothing about any of this point to argue.
No - there's not in this circumstance. There is no valid reason to consider being old for a grade or being held back a year as a "red flag" that should be investigated on it's own.
You're flailing and looking even more foolish than usual.
Who said anything about investigating anything on is own??? I certainly didn't. Don't call me foolish when you and others are making shit up out of thin air.
You're the one claiming the age and grade of this girl should have been a "red flag".
Again, I don't think you understand what "red flag" means.
Again, someone sure doesn't. If you weren't being such a prick I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to a misunderstanding.
See specifically definitions 1 and 3 below.
red flag
noun
Three I can remember that turned 7 before Christmas due to parent redshirting. About 25 to 30 percent that would have turned 7 before beginning first grade. Ten or so that turned 7 due to retention prior to Christmas. I can't think of any that I would consider having serious mental health issues.
ETA: This was a private school that at least in Iowa could have kicked out any student that wasn't up to their standards of mental health. I would be surprised if the school had the staff to deal with significant behavior issues.
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I might be wrong, maybe it was a guillotine they had out front on the capital lawn.
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No one, including Websters, said anything about "investigating" kids who were held back a year except you and gohawks. The thing I actually proved, once again, is you lack common sense and integrity.
I didn't say anything about investigating anyone. You proposed that her age was a red flag so I asked if we need to alert authorities to children that are older than most of their grade level peers. Don't put your theory that her age had some negative impact on her mental heath on me, that came from you.
Only you could confuse "demands attention" with "investigating".
You're a special kind of stupid.
Yep. I totally thought mental health issues just started a week ago.
What’s sad is that you probably think you are so intelligent that you think people really don’t know that mental health issues have always existed.
The difference is that today, mental health issues are encouraged. You want to be a cat, go be a cat.
Not that we were doing a bang up job with mental health over a week ago. They were more than likely thrown in jail or strapped to a bed somewhere. But at least they weren’t looked at for 5 minutes and thrown back out on the street being able to harm others.
To be clear, it was your argument that guns came long before mental illness, so I guess for the future we shouldn't believe anything you say?
I wouldn't say mental health issues are encouraged, but they are more accepted. Hell, people will even vote for a guy with severe mental health issues. If someone wants to be a cat, I don't give a sh!t, but I do have a problem with someone who wants to be a dictator and is willing to kill his VP. But you continue to be outraged by someone purring in a sandbox.
lol, you are one here saying that the president is trying to hang the vice president. A couple minutes later you change it to using a guillotine.
I can see why you are don’t care to see mental health as a real issue as you seem you might be the one purring in a sandbox
Do you think 28 acres is too much land or not enough? To me it seems right in the realm of reasonable for a K12 campus. 400 students K-12...might even be a little small.
Are you new here because I was responding to OiT, who happens to be the most mentally ill person on this board (due to a head injury). There is no normal conversation with him, it's "when in Rome".
Not sure how you came to the conclusion I don't care about mental illness, I care deeply that we will have a mentally ill president in a month and all of his crazies around him. We do have a major mental illness issue in the U.S., it's every person that voted for him.
This requires a LOL.
In the psych word "demands attention" is a bunch of pussy academics trying to speak PC. It sure as shit means "should be investigated" to anyone who iant afraid to hurt someone's feelings with charmin soft sandpaper.
28 acres of land is roughly 200 yards wide by 600.
It's roughly 6 city blocks, for a campus that has a park, baseball field and I think a football field, not sure why that is important to you but 28 acres isn't really large.
It's roughly 6 city blocks, for a campus that has a park, baseball field and I think a football field, not sure why that is important to you but 28 acres isn't really large.
I have 12 by myself and wish I had more, you would be suprised how quickly "if that is going to be the garden then we don't have anywhere to put xxx" happens.
