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Thoughts and prayers. Another School Shooting

It's not out of the norm especially with parents that have dreams of their child being a D1 athlete. We had a girl that had a late September birthday. Her mother had dreams of the girl becoming a college softball player so they waited until she was 6 to enroll her in kindergarten. She was 7 the majority of her kindergarten year. She did go on to play college softball, but not at the D1 level.
Your example is an ultra rare exception which is exactly my point.
 
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The kindergarten class of 2010–11 was diverse with respect to characteristics of individual children and their families. Six percent of kindergartners started their first year of kindergarten before they turned 5 years old, while 42 percent started when they were between5 and 5½ years old, 43 percent started when they were more than 5½ years old to 6 years old, and 9 percent started after they turned 6 years old.

9% after they turned 6 doesn't account for the scarcity of those being fall or even winter birthdays. I'd bet my house 99%+ of those were summer and spring birthdays. If you taught Kindergarten you 100% know it too.
 
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Your example is an ultra rare exception which is exactly my point.
As I linked earlier in the thread 9% of the first time kindergartners in 2010-2011 were older than 6 at the start of the school year. So it's not the norm, but not all that uncommon either. In a class of 23 students, 2 would likely be over 6 at the beginning of the school year.

Either way I fail to see what her age reveals about her mental health. One of two things happened, either she started school over 6 or she was held back a year. Neither is a common trait among school shooters.
 
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God, please stop. This liberal vs conservative nonsense is absolutely toxic.
The funniest thing about this post is the people who liked it.
Pages of talk about the shooter being trans and all trans being mentally ill and coddled by liberals. Now that it comes out to be a very different story suddenly we're supposed to be apartisan about it.
 
As I linked earlier in the thread 9% of the first time kindergartners in 2010-2011 were older than 6 at the start of the school year. So it's not the norm, but not all that uncommon either. In a class of 23 students, 2 would likely be over 6 at the beginning of the school year.

Either way I fail to see what her age reveals about her mental health. One of two things happened, either she started school over 6 or she was held back a year. Neither is a common trait among school shooters.
Again, being 6 at the start of K doesn't mean 9% will turn 7 before December, which this person clearly did as it relates to their grade. You can't be this obtuse by accident. The point is there's a major difference in frequency between a 6 year old Kindergartener with a summer bday and one with a bday in the fall. Again, you know this. Be honest ffs.
 
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Again, being 6 at the start of K doesn't mean 9% will turn 7 before December, which this person clearly did as it relates to their grade. You can't be this obtuse by accident. The point is there's a major difference in frequency between a 6 year old Kindergartener with a summer bday and one with a bday in the fall. Again, you know this. Be honest ffs.
Again, where did you get all this knowledge about the ages of kindergartners and what point do you think you are making about this school shooting?
 
Agree generally but I think where it became an issue is when we started getting into "treatment" for children. Most people see that as a bridge too far because we all know children are irrational. I am all for people that are adults basically doing what they want to make them happy as long as it doesn't affect others.
It is definitely hard for me to believe that gender reassignment surgery for a child is the responsible thing to do.

But I am also not a doctor.
 
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The funniest thing about this post is the people who liked it.
Pages of talk about the shooter being trans and all trans being mentally ill and coddled by liberals. Now that it comes out to be a very different story suddenly we're supposed to be apartisan about it.
I also found that to be very funny.
 
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What Lib vs Con debate?


What we can agree on is what we know about this tragedy.

The shooter was definitely screwed up.
The shooter was a conservative and racist and seemingly heading towards being a neo nazi.
The shooter had access to guns.
The shooters father likely contributed to some of this.
Mental illness in kids is real.
Link? Specific to the conservative and racist part.

You don't need to convince me she was screwed up.
 
Again, where did you get all this knowledge about the ages of kindergartners and what point do you think you are making about this school shooting?
I'll take your refusal to answer the question and accept the age point I'm making as both an acknowledgement of and an admission that you have zero integrity. It really wasn't a big deal or that complicated.
 
It is definitely hard for me to believe that gender reassignment surgery for a child is the responsible thing to do.

But I am also not a doctor.
More people are killed by cows each year than kids getting reassignment surgery. It's a boogyman for the ignorant.
 
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It is definitely hard for me to believe that gender reassignment surgery for a child is the responsible thing to do.

But I am also not a doctor.
Almost all gender affirming surgeries in minors are happening to cis gender minors.

In 2019, the sample included 47 437 919 adults who were insured and 22 827 194 minors who were insured, of which 3 835 726 minors (16.8%) were aged 15 to 17 years, 2 708 166 (11.9%) were aged 13 to 14 years, and 16 283 302 (71.3%) were aged 12 years or younger. The rate of undergoing a gender-affirming surgery with a TGD-related diagnosis was 5.3 per 100 000 total adults compared with 2.1 per 100 000 minors aged 15 to 17 years, 0.1 per 100 000 minors aged 13 to 14 years, and 0 procedures among minors aged 12 years or younger (Figure 1). Of gender-affirming surgical procedures identified among adults and minors, 1591 of 2664 (59.7%) and 82 of 85 (96.4%) were chest-related procedures, respectively. Of the 636 breast reductions among cisgender male and TGD adults, 507 (80%) were performed on cisgender males. Of the 151 breast reductions among cisgender male minors and TGD minors, 146 (97%) were performed on cisgender male minors.
 
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I'll take your refusal to answer the question and accept the age point I'm making as both an acknowledgement of and an admission that you have zero integrity. It really wasn't a big deal or that complicated.
Speaking of refusing to answer questions, pot meet kettle.
 
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No one cares. We decided back at Sandy Hook that we value guns more than kids.
So true, just some rallying narrative to gather votes. A speech, promises, make a list and nothing done. Oh yeah and then pardon someone with gun charges.

Spend trillions on bombs and missles for foreign wars but do nothing for schools in your own country.
 
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Speaking of refusing to answer questions, pot meet kettle.
I'll have a mature conversation with people who don't try and play games. That's what you're doing. If you're done doing so I'll answer anything you want. Just acknowledge it is extremely rare for a student to turn 15 in or before December of their 8th grade year, and more than likely it would indicate the student was held back at some point.
 
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I'll have a mature conversation with people who don't try and play games. That's what you're doing. If you're done doing so I'll answer anything you want. Just acknowledge it is extremely rare for a student to turn 15 in or before December of their 8th grade year, and more than likely it would indicate the student was held back at some point.
You disagree with me so you think it's not a mature conversation? SMH

I said it's not the norm for a child to turn 7 in kindergarten, but it can and does happen. If that's not good enough for you I'm sorry. Now will you tell me what you think her advanced age in 8th grade proves? Should all students that have been retained or are older than their grade level peers be alerted to the authorities as possible school shooters?
 
You disagree with me so you think it's not a mature conversation? SMH

I said it's not the norm for a child to turn 7 in kindergarten, but it can and does happen. If that's not good enough for you I'm sorry. Now will you tell me what you think her advanced age in 8th grade proves? Should all students that have been retained or are older than their grade level peers be alerted to the authorities as possible school shooters?
It's not disagreeing, it's intentionally misrepresenting the point of my posts, which you just did again.
From the start my first post related to the age topic was that it can be ONE of many red flags. This person being 15 in December of 8th grade was a likely indicator of problems with and in school at some point. That's it.
I said none of the other garbage you projected.
 
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It's not disagreeing, it's intentionally misrepresenting the point of my posts, which you just did again.
From the start my first post related to the age topic was that it can be ONE of many red flags. This person being 15 in December of 8th grade was a likely indicator of problems with and in school at some point. That's it.
I said none of the other garbage you projected.
WTF? It's absurd to suggest that it's a "red flag" for a kid to be old for their grade.

Appears you have no idea what "red flag" refers to.
 
It's not disagreeing, it's intentionally misrepresenting the point of my posts, which you just did again.
From the start my first post related to the age topic was that it can be ONE of many red flags. This person being 15 in December of 8th grade was a likely indicator of problems with and in school at some point. That's it.
I said none of the other garbage you projected.
And I've spend today answering your question in this post:
Are normal well adjusted kids commonly 15 in 8th grade? Of course not.
There are many normal well adjusted kids that turn 15 in 8th grade.
 
WTF? It's absurd to suggest that it's a "red flag" for a kid to be old for their grade.

Appears you have no idea what "red flag" refers to.
One of us doesn't, that's for sure. The question was and is, "was this kid on the radar?". I'm sure she was and problems in school leading her to be held back at some point would be part of it. It's a piece of the puzzle which is why is said ONE of many.
Think of it like a poster who laugh reacts to every single post someone else makes. By itself it's not necessarily indicative of being a loser, but it's a piece of the puzzle... when combined with hundreds of stupid posts it helps completes the picture.
 
And I've spend today answering your question in this post:

There are many normal well adjusted kids that turn 15 in 8th grade.
Again, in December of 8th grade, which indicates he/she was held back at some point. You keep omitting that point intentionally. And btw, we're talking about this specific individual, who killed people yesterday. Her issues in school we're obviously a significant factor wouldn't you agree?
 
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