Title 42 Expiration Day Thread

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

As Title 42 is set to expire at 11:59 p.m. ET Thursday, security officials are bracing for what could be an unprecedented influx of migrants seeking asylum along the southern border.

The COVID-era public health emergency measure allowed for the quick expulsion of migrants at the border and nearly halted the processing of asylum applications for more than three years.

Once Title 42 is lifted, the tens of thousands of people who have been waiting in Mexico after fleeing from violence, poverty and political instability will be subject to decades-old immigration protocols known as Title 8.
Under those laws, individuals can no longer be turned away or deported without a screening for asylum claims. That means they'll enter the country and be placed in detention centers as they go through a process called expedited removal, which includes a credible fear interview. Those who are deemed to have valid claims will be allowed to stay in the country as their cases make their way through immigration court. Those who are not will be deported.

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/11/1175378000/title-42-expires-asylum-us-border-texas

 

[Hawkeyenuts66]

I feel bad for those living on the border, they are about to get invaded.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

It’s like Black Friday at the border!

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

EL PASO, Texas — A day before the end of pandemic-era rules that allow officials to quickly expel migrants who enter the U.S. illegally, the southwest border is already a scene of chaos and desperation.

• Makeshift camps, each with hundreds of migrants, have formed on both sides of the border in recent days — some people having already crossed into the U.S., others hoping to do so.
• At Sacred Heart Church in El Paso, blankets, cardboard, clothing and plastic bags cover the fences and sidewalks surrounding the brick building — signs of the hundreds of migrants who have taken refuge there.
• One woman teared up as she told Axios she had been camping at the church for a week.

Why it matters: In El Paso and many other cities along the southwest border, it's likely to get worse. An estimated 150,000 people in Mexico are headed toward the U.S. as the migration restrictions known as Title 42 end Thursday.

• Several U.S. border cities have declared emergencies, federal officials are scrambling to round up undocumented migrants in El Paso to process or expel them under the expiring policy, and Border Patrol stations are filled with recent arrivals.
• Migrants no longer will be expelled under Title 42 after Thursday — but a new policy by the Biden administration could block many from getting asylum.
• It's not clear whether many migrants are aware of the new policy — only that the end of Title 42 has inspired thousands to rush to the border.

https://www.axios.com/2023/05/10/scenes-from-border-chaos-desperation

 

[NoleinATL]

The CBP App should be used to gain some level of order and put out an executive order that is someone tries to gain entry without a visa or appointment through the app, it warrants an automatic 5-year expulsion. ( But that needed to be done last May)

3 years to fix the limitations of Title 42 and make the southern border more manageable, and they all dropped the freaking ball, too busy pointing fingers at each other than doing their jobs.


side note
I have enjoyed watching people so opposed to Covid sanctions cry about a CDC Covid policy being ended.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

side note
I have enjoyed watching people so opposed to Covid sanctions cry about a CDC Covid policy being ended.

The administration will be crying about it in private if this turns into a shit show.

 

[Joes Place]

.....so......Covid's over, except with how it applies to immigration, then?

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Are processing stations set up in Mexico? If not, wouldn’t that have been a good idea?

 

[FAUlty Gator]

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Nope...covid i

.....so......Covid's over, except with how it applies to immigration, then?

Title 42 should have gone away last year

 

[NoleinATL]

The administration will be crying about it in private if this turns into a shit show.

It is already a shit show, by the end of this week there will be a humanitarian crisis at the border. That said , there is not much the admin can do about Title 42 because it was created under the Covid umbrella and if you end Covid, then Title 42 ends.

They should cry about their lack of preparation and planning that has taken place in the last year

 

[EasyHawk]

No worries, Kamala is engaged.

 

[Joes Place]

They should cry about their lack of preparation and planning that has taken place in the last decades

FIFY

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

It is already a shit show, by the end of this week there will be a humanitarian crisis at the border. That said , there is not much the admin can do about Title 42 because it was created under the Covid umbrella and if you end Covid, then Title 42 ends.

They should cry about their lack of preparation and planning that has taken place in the last year

Feels a little bit like the Afghanistan pullout. Has to be done, but a lot of work needs to go into the planning.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Are processing stations set up in Mexico? If not, wouldn’t that have been a good idea?

Why are the people from other countries not applying for asylum with Mexico?

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Joe wanted this. Well now he's got it.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Why are the people from other countries not applying for asylum with Mexico?

This is also a great question.

The asylum process is being abused here, we all know that.

 

[Huey Grey]

I feel bad for those living on the border, they are about to get invaded.

Probably not at the levels being hyped right now.

 

[Hawkeyenuts66]

Probably not at the levels being hyped right now.

According to my father who lives south of McAllen TX says you don't know shit.

 

[Tom Paris]

I feel bad for those living on the border, they are about to get invaded.

I don't think you understand "invaded". Helluva radical right scary word though.

 

[Tom Paris]

It is already a shit show, by the end of this week there will be a humanitarian crisis at the border. That said , there is not much the admin can do about Title 42 because it was created under the Covid umbrella and if you end Covid, then Title 42 ends.

They should cry about their lack of preparation and planning that has taken place in the last year

Or the last 50 years. Neither party really seems to have an answer for the southern border. Maybe they should get together and figure it out. Just a thought.

 

[50kWidowmaker]

I don't think you understand "invaded". Helluva radical right scary word though.

I expect your words, and the words of Huey are easy to come by as you live thousands of miles away in your unaffected world.

 

[Jerome Silberman]

So...taco trucks on every corner? I was promised this would happen, and I expect results.

 

[Hawkeyenuts66]

I don't think you understand "invaded". Helluva radical right scary word though.

I don't think you understand anything outside your little leftwing bubble. Maybe go down there and check it out for yourself.

 

[TJ8869]

.....so......Covid's over, except with how it applies to immigration, then?

If COVID is over then why are we still blocking professional athletes from entering the country without vaccination?

I guess if Novak Djokovic wants to play tennis in the United States then he’s going to have to swim across the Rio Grande first.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Or the last 50 years. Neither party really seems to have an answer for the southern border. Maybe they should get together and figure it out. Just a thought.

Start enforcing the law. Start deporting anyone and everyone in this country illegally. Start workplace enforcement raids.

The laws are sufficient. We just have an administration electing not to enforce them.

 

[JRHawk2003]

I don't think you understand anything outside your little leftwing bubble. Maybe go down there and check it out for yourself.

Iowa is infested with right wing dipshits. I understand what you are saying

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

I expect your words, and the words of Huey are easy to come by as you live thousands of miles away in your unaffected world.

White Iowan privilege

 

[Tom Paris]

Start enforcing the law. Start deporting anyone and everyone in this country illegally. Start workplace enforcement raids.

The laws are sufficient. We just have an administration electing not to enforce them.

Administrations. Plural. This has been a thing our entire lives.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Administrations. Plural. This has been a thing our entire lives.

Your side fought Trump's approach on immigration at every turn.

You people are fools!

 

[JRHawk2003]

White Iowan privilege

Not in Columbus Junction.

 

[Tom Paris]

Your side fought Trump's approach on immigration at every turn.

You people are fools!

Trump had over 900,000 border encounters in 2019...stop pretending they were afraid of him. We had a problem with him separating HUMAN CHILDREN from their parents. Party of life and all.

That and his stupid wall that Mexico was going to pay for - but Biden is the guy who got 1.5 billion from Mexico for border security. Stop projecting.

 

[TennNole17]

Administrations. Plural. This has been a thing our entire lives.

How are we so unprepared then? As you said, its been a thing forever, how does shit like this go unsolved.

 

[ANYCHawk]

Your side fought Trump's approach on immigration at every turn.

You people are fools!

Im sorry when did Dems stop his workplace enforcement raids you called for?

 

[Tom Paris]

How are we so unprepared then? As you said, its been a thing forever, how does shit like this go unsolved.

One would think there would be someone in leadership positions who could figure it out. I feel for the people who are actually in border security that are actually IN the fight, having to deal with a hot mess every damn day because people above their paygrade can't figure it out.

Sounds familiar.

 

[Joes Place]

So...taco trucks on every corner? I was promised this would happen, and I expect results.

AND CHURROS!!!!

 

[ANYCHawk]

How are we so unprepared then? As you said, its been a thing forever, how does shit like this go unsolved.

Money.

Everything costs money and what do you think people in say Minnesota are gonna pay for, fixing pot holes in their state or paying for more southern border security?

 

[TennNole17]

One would think there would be someone in leadership positions who could figure it out. I feel for the people who are actually in border security that are actually IN the fight, having to deal with a hot mess every damn day because people above their paygrade can't figure it out.

Sounds familiar.

Like school districts.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Trump had over 900,000 border encounters in 2019...stop pretending they were afraid of him. We had a problem with him separating HUMAN CHILDREN from their parents. Party of life and all.

That and his stupid wall that Mexico was going to pay for - but Biden is the guy who got 1.5 billion from Mexico for border security. Stop projecting.

900k sounds great right now....

2021-- 1,734,686
2022-- 2,378,944
2023-- 1,223,067 SO FAR...

Southwest Land Border Encounters

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

 

[TennNole17]

Money.

Everything costs money and what do you think people in say Minnesota are gonna pay for, fixing pot holes in their state or paying for more southern border security?

We have the money, the government just doesn't spend it well.