You just going to ignore Dix, Freeman (BTPOY) and Harding, who probably had the best freshman year at guard that we’ve seen since Horner?
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Correct. He’s not the same coach he was either 10-15 years ago. Sure they still didn’t play defense then and were horrible fundamentally, but at least Fran looked/acted like he cared. The ol hands in pockets look on the sideline all the time now, drives me ****ing crazy
I think Gesell and Bohannon both had better freshman years.
Hoiberg has an atrocious record, made only one tournament and has
zero tournament wins in 5 years. I’m not getting the love.
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Because he did this at Nebraska. What's not to love?
I’m not saying he’s the goat by any stretch. But in today’s landscape I’d take him over Fran. Nebraska basketball is a joke and he got them to the tourney this year. Also, his March success is something Fran will never achieve.
What Fran inherited from Lick was much worse than what Hoiberg inherited. And Hoiberg won 2 conference games in 2 years? In his 5th year he finally hit 500 or maybe had a winning record and then gave up 100 to basketball powerhouse Texas A & M. I won’t argue about Hoiberg embracing the portal more but he has basically sucked for 5 years.
They certainly played more minutes, but statistically Harding was better than Gessell in 3 point shooting and assists. Bohannon shot the 3 a little better, but Harding had more asisists per minute and a better A/T ratio. I think Harding is a better defender than Bohannon, not as good as Gessell. It’s subjective, I admit.
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No question his conference record has stunk up until this year. Again, I’m not saying he’s the best coach of all time, but I think he’s a good coach in today’s landscape who embraces the portal. Do have to give the guy credit for making the tourney at Nebraska, it’s not an easy task.
LOL at one of the top 5 players in the league. Perkins had his moments, was a whiner and had to be coached up a lot by the assistant's. Benched several times for lack of interest.
Perkins had some good games, but, Iowa will not miss him
Based on... what?
Perkins was better than Dix in every single defensive category I can find: steals, blocks, defensive rating, defensive +/- box scorer, defensive rebounds, etc.
I totally disagree with this statement. Perkins was a difference maker in a lot of games this year and is one of only 3 true guards on the team. Without a good portal add at that position, next season will look a lot like this one if not significantly worse.
Defensive metrics are not always a great indicator of effectiveness. Tony was a good defender, but Dix always drew the toughest defensive assignments because he was easily the best perimeter defender on the team.
Not saying they are desperate, but 5 of their 7 G's are seniors this year, so they could look to bring in quality depth. They can afford that type of expen$e.
They certainly played more minutes, but statistically Harding was better than Gessell in 3 point shooting and assists. Bohannon shot the 3 a little better, but Harding had more asisists per minute and a better A/T ratio. I think Harding is a better defender than Bohannon, not as good as Gessell. It’s subjective, I admit.
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All this tells me is, we haven't been very lucky with getting a great guard.
We've got a decent program to be comparing to Licklighter, but nobody can make an individual player happy. Coaches should always be looking for someone better than they have and Tony definitely peaked last year. The team will have equal or better starters without him next year.
Super.
So Perkins isn't done, he's just done with Iowa. Either our NIL for hoops sucks (no secret, I guess) and they can't retain players, or he's not happy at Iowa. I assume it's mostly the former, not as much the latter, but either way, the current state of affairs doesn't inspire a lot of hope with me regarding Iowa men's hoops.
So Perkins isn't done, he's just done with Iowa. Either our NIL for hoops sucks (no secret, I guess) and they can't retain players, or he's not happy at Iowa. I assume it's mostly the former, not as much the latter, but either way, the current state of affairs doesn't inspire a lot of hope with me regarding Iowa men's hoops.
NIL $ is taxed, right?As a primary source of income.......but with a few hundred K in savings to get him started in life.
Yes Perkins was a difference maker in a number of games. The problem is, it wasn't enough. We know what we have in Perkins and the only way for this team to do more is for others to do more. And for others to do more, that might mean less for Perkins. So if you're Perkins and you're looking to next year, your role maybe less than this year. If that's going to happen then it might be best to move on to another school and play that same role on a better team.
How about becoming the all time losing coach?
We need Gs and at least one of those two has to start...preferably a physically developed 6'3+ CG to match with Dix. The depth player probably needs to be a PG.
Life will continue on. The portal and NIL … it’s a different world and zero restrictions. Maybe most surprising is he could have played one more year at Iowa… meaning - is it all about the money or he doesn’t see much hope on the horizon for the program itself - or both … and both are realistic…
This is Tony's best chance for a basketball paycheck,.. I suspect that he'll get more than Iowa could offer and probably not have to play the point. I wish him well..
Yep, we clearly won't miss the best athlete on the team and 2nd team all conference guy. Not a problem. Some you guys I don't even know what to say.
Sure thing. Patrick scored 19 point in the last game, clearly going to miss him as well
Do you even watch the games?
The eyeball test. Perkins cherry picks a lot and plays off his man, hence more steals, but not good fundamentals. I think Fran even said he was assigned the toughest player to guard. Im not the only one to think Dix is a better defender.
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Yep, a player that was benched several times during the season for lack of effort. The last game he was checked out, but, watch how little effort he gave on the defensive side. Granted, that is the same for the whole team
Hey. Why would we want a second team all big ten guard, when we can just rely on Fran’s recruiting and development of other guards??? Don’t answer that. 😊🤦♂️
Word on the street is he's Fran's #1 priority in the portal.
Size. Athleticism. Low mileage on the frame. Just what we need to shore up the 5.
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So much Indiana stuff in the comment section of his Instagram account. Wondering if he'll be a Hoosier
It could be he also just wants to try something new. All the guys he's been playing with though the years are gone. It's now just a bunch of younger guys. The change could motivate him and he'll get different coaching that could benefit him.
Fran isn't good at getting donors to donate to NIL and also not good at making additions from the Portal. Fran was a zero on Portal before NIL became and if he isn't good at raising NIL, what exactly is his talent that he gets paid $3.2 million/year to provide?
When Fran offered Perkins, I was thrilled---athletic guard that could shoot. He didn't turn out to be the shooter that I had expected, but he was every bit the athletic/physically strong guard that you see on our rivals.
I do agree without NIL Fran is not going to have a chance on portal this spring given he seems to lack charisma in attracting black athletes. I suppose he might pick up some equivalent of a Bakari Evelyn with no other prospects.
Best wishes to Perkins. Sorry Iowa couldn't come up with a competitve NIL package to keep. I suppose there is still a chance the Swarm might have some money and make a push. Perkins probably realized Fran's prospects of an NCAA run look dim, so that hurts our chances.
I’d say Rebraca was a good pick up. We wouldn’t have made the NCAAs last year without him. Krikke was a big miss.With Perkins leaving Fran definitely needs to change his strategies and pick up a couple good portal players. That means he needs to roust up some money. I wonder, and I’m surprised we haven’t seen anything on this, but what prevents a coach from donating half his salary to NIL? Seems a sure fire way to build a roster.
Is making the NCAA tourney that high of a bar in 14 team league that has averaged roughly 6 bids each year in last few years? The Big10 this year had two really good teams and 10 average teams and still got 5 bids.
Iowa is in a bad position. We can't make an impact hire that can harvest the portal without some NIL and with our current coach, no one wants to donate NIL. Fran needs to get off his azz and raise some NIL. We also need a Men's basketball focused NIL collective---giving to swarm, not sure where my money went.
Since the prevailing mood is doom and gloom, how we gonna feel when FM brings in these players from the portal?
An MVC type guard
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I don't see him recruiting over his current guys. He never has.
An MVC type guard
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I don't see him recruiting over his current guys. He never has.
We had Rebracca for 2 years---1st year meh, 2nd year quality B1G starter. Krikke was not a help this year...he had maybe 10 games where his offense was enough to make up for him not rebounding or defending and giving up more points to the other team. Fran was a dud in Portal before NIL...so hard to believe, but he must be less than a zero now.---i.e. net donor to Portal.
I think the University is prevented by NCAA from rewarding NIL donors with special favors like better seats/access to players/coaches and similar rules in place for coaches donating to NIL...because University
could just jack up coaching pay with wink and nod to coach to fund the NIL program out of his paycheck.
I don't t think rules prevent Fran from going out and courting donors and giving them special access to the program in exchange for NIL. Swarm seemed to indicate Iowa has maybe 4 major donors--those guys seem
to be maybe $50-$100 million type rich guys not billionaires..getting those guys to fund football and basketball is a tall order. State of Iowa has maybe 1 million fans....need to get $10 out of each fan in the state, but the state is full of cheapies.
HIs market value in NIL has to be North of $100K---$200K or more seems likely. If Iowa swarm isn't/wasn't able to come up with a competitive offer, then he DEFINITELY will get paid to play somewhere next year.
Before NIL, We lost a starter Isaiah Moss to Kansas to go there and be a bench guy....seems likely the draw of better NCAA performance and/or NIL pay will take him to a better situation from his point of view.
Tony supposedly loved Fran...or at least that was what I saw posted at times. I guess not enough love.
Less loyalty to a coach or team with NIL money dangling in your face now.
Perkins is a much better athlete and player than Moss. And Moss ended up at KU. Its ridiculous to think a guy who’s as athletic as him and a 3 year starter at a Power 6 school is not going to be hugely valuable in the portal.
