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Trump revealed highly classified information to Russians

I'm not defending him. I'm just being skeptical of the WaPo story for the moment. It was interesting, though, how quickly the guys here reformed the circle and hardly missed a jerk.

If the story turns out to be that he said something that might have given somebody a clue as to where the information came from that they weren't supposed to know, I could believe that. He has no experience in this kind of thing, certainly not the nuances -- he doesn't even seem to be sensitive to other nuances in areas where he does have experience.

The Fox News reporter who covers the intelligence community -- and who has a terrific track record, whatever one might think of her employers -- speculated that a city might have been mentioned, and knowing the location could be seen as leaving a clue as to the source of the information. That wouldn't shock me if it's what happened.
It's interesting that your first impulse was to be skeptical when a story breaks about a loudmouthed ignorant jackass running his mouth like a loudmouthed ignorant jackass.
 
It's interesting that your first impulse was to be skeptical when a story breaks about a loudmouthed ignorant jackass running his mouth like a loudmouthed ignorant jackass.
No, my first impulse was to be skeptical when I saw a story with no named sources AND the admission that the reporter had not talked with any of the people present.

As I wrote in another thread yesterday, I automatically distrust a story that is based on anonymous sources whether I hope it's true or hope it isn't.
 
The NSA said that no intelligence methods or sources were discussed. The point is that the source can be revealed by the nature of the intelligence.

This. It would be like if we learned that the best tasting sweet corn came from Seattle.
 
There were only a few people in that room. What if the leak came from one or the Russians? Maybe the old judo master is knocking his amateur opponent off balance.
 
No, my first impulse was to be skeptical when I saw a story with no named sources AND the admission that the reporter had not talked with any of the people present.

As I wrote in another thread yesterday, I automatically distrust a story that is based on anonymous sources whether I hope it's true or hope it isn't.
Fair enough. Just giving you crap. In all honesty, I really hope that nothing bad enough happens in the next few years that you (and other conservatives) no longer think that the SCOTUS seat was worth it.
 
As I wrote in another thread yesterday, I automatically distrust a story that is based on anonymous sources whether I hope it's true or hope it isn't.

Really? Let's see how the last "lock her up" thread went...

As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton routinely asked her maid to print out sensitive government e-mails and documents — including ones containing classified information — from her house in Washington, DC, e-mails and FBI memos show. But the housekeeper lacked the security clearance to handle such material.

In fact, Marina Santos was called on so frequently to receive e-mails that she may hold the secrets to E-mailgate — if only the FBI and Congress would subpoena her and the equipment she used.

Clinton entrusted far more than the care of her DC residence, known as Whitehaven, to Santos. She expected the Filipino immigrant to handle state secrets, further opening the Democratic presidential nominee to criticism that she played fast and loose with national security.

Clinton would first receive highly sensitive e-mails from top aides at the State Department and then request that they, in turn, forward the messages and any attached documents to Santos to print out for her at the home.

Among other things, Clinton requested Santos print out drafts of her speeches, confidential memos and “call sheets” — background information and talking points prepared for the secretary of state in advance of a phone call with a foreign head of state.

“Pls ask Marina to print for me in am,” Clinton e-mailed top aide Huma Abedin regarding a redacted 2011 message marked sensitive but unclassified.

In a classified 2012 e-mail dealing with the new president of Malawi, another Clinton aide, Monica Hanley, advised Clinton, “We can ask Marina to print this.”

“Revisions to the Iran points” was the subject line of a classified April 2012 e-mail to Clinton from Hanley. In it, the text reads, “Marina is trying to print for you.”

Both classified e-mails were marked “confidential,” the tier below “secret” or “top secret.”

Santos also had access to a highly secure room called an SCIF (sensitive compartmented information facility) that diplomatic security agents set up at Whitehaven, according to FBI notes from an interview with Abedin.

From within the SCIF, Santos — who had no clearance — “collected documents from the secure facsimile machine for Clinton,” the FBI notes revealed.

Just how sensitive were the papers Santos presumably handled? The FBI noted Clinton periodically received the Presidential Daily Brief — a top-secret document prepared by the CIA and other US intelligence agencies — via the secure fax.

A 2012 “sensitive” but unclassified e-mail from Hanley to Clinton refers to a fax the staff wanted Clinton “to see before your Netanyahu mtg. Marina will grab for you.”

Yet it appears Clinton was never asked by the FBI in its yearlong investigation to turn over the iMac Santos used to receive the e-mails, or the printer she used to print out the documents, or the printouts themselves.

http://nypost.com/2016/11/06/clinton-directed-her-maid-to-print-out-classified-materials/


WTF????

LOCK HER UP!

One wonders is the maid is legal, and how much Hillary pays her.

Yep, that classic Lone Clone skepticism there. No hypocrisy there. :rolleyes:

One wonders why Hillary is not in jail.

I wonder if we'll hear from this idiot? ^^^

UPDATE: WE DID HEAR FROM HIM, AND THE VILLAGE IDIOT DIDN'T DISSAPPOINT.
 
Really? Let's see how the last "lock her up" thread went...





Yep, that classic Lone Clone skepticism there. No hypocrisy there. :rolleyes:



I wonder if we'll hear from this idiot? ^^^

UPDATE: WE DID HEAR FROM HIM, AND THE VILLAGE IDIOT DIDN'T DISSAPPOINT.

The Secretary of State is not The President.
 
God, the sooner we can get rid of this national embarrassment, the better before he does any more irreparable harm to our nation and the world.
McMaster was in the room and he says it did not happen. I believe him over anonymous sources. When will the national embarrassment of the press making up stories out of whole cloth end?
 
It looks like the Americans in the room have all released statements saying the story was not true. McMaster, Tillerson, and Powell all say it didn't happen. Also, as of 8:22pm eastern time, the intelligence community was not notified of a breach of intelligence.

This shit might be made up
 
It looks like the Americans in the room have all released statements saying the story was not true. McMaster, Tillerson, and Powell all say it didn't happen. Also, as of 8:22pm eastern time, the intelligence community was not notified of a breach of intelligence.

This shit might be made up
Not the greatest people to hang your hat on the telling the American people the truth.
 
My God, are you ever dumb. Like "could never be given the death penalty" dumb.

It's not dumb.

The President can declassify anything he wants at will. He is incapable of unlawfully sharing classified secrets, because he is the ultimate authority on what is deemed to be secret. The President has the authority to give the nuclear football codes to Carrot Top if he wants to do that.

The Secretary of State does not enjoy such powers.
 
Only in a liberal world, would you want to believe the unnamed sources over the people actually in the room.
Not when the people in the room have a history of lying through their teeth. If your friend is a constant liar, and a complete stranger comes up to you and tells you something about him. Do you believe the liar, or the stranger? Your answer to that will say a lot about you.
 
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Not when the people in the room have a history of lying through their teeth. If your friend is a constant liar, and a complete stranger comes up to you and tells you something about him. Do you believe the liar, or the stranger? Your answer to that will say a lot about you.
So if Fox had a story about Obama with "unnamed sources" and the people in the room were Clinton, Rice, and Clapper, who do you believe? Cause those folks earned medals in lying.
 
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Only in a liberal world, would you want to believe the unnamed sources over the people actually in the room.

Only in a conservative world would you want to believe an administration has been a complete shitstorm from day one.

From the mouths of your very own:

"They are in a downward spiral right now and have got to figure out a way to come to grips with all that's happening," Tenn. Senator Bob Corker told reporters.

"Can we have a crisis-free day? That's all I'm asking." Susan Collins, Maine Senator
 
So if Fox had a story about Obama with "unnamed sources" and the people in the room were Clinton, Rice, and Clapper, who do you believe? Cause those folks earned medals in lying.
Probably Fox. I'm not a liberal. I don't like Obama or Hillary. But I do mention quite frequently that Trump supporters can't argue about him without bringing up those 2. Thank you for being another example of my theory being correct.
 
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Only in a conservative world would you want to believe an administration has been a complete shitstorm from day one.

From the mouths of your very own:

"They are in a downward spiral right now and have got to figure out a way to come to grips with all that's happening," Tenn. Senator Bob Corker told reporters.

"Can we have a crisis-free day? That's all I'm asking." Susan Collins, Maine Senator
Not in a conservatives world. I'm one of those. It's in a morans world. The people that voted for Trump.
 
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Probably Fox. I'm not a liberal. I don't like Obama or Hillary. But I do mention quite frequently that Trump supporters can't argue about him without bringing up those 2. Thank you for being another example of my theory being correct.

I honestly don't think anything will make Trump supporters ever admit he sucks or they were wrong.

The most honest thing he ever said was that he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and his supporters would still vote for him.
 
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This administration has been a bigger cluster f--k than I ever imagined
Exactly! Expectations were incredibly low and they still can't get anything done with complete governmental control. The level of incompetence is quite astonishing.
 
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The most honest thing he ever said was that he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and his supporters would still vote for him.
So so so so so true. And that says something about his supporters. Morans.
 
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