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Tulsi Gabbard Leaves Democratic Party

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What’s the ‘Russian propaganda’?

“Uh, Ukraine has uh, biological research facilities, which, in fact we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russia forces may be seeking to uh, gain control of. So, we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of uh, Russian forces should they approach.”

Are neocons like Nuland hyping a non-existent concern?
 
I'm not arguing her position, just providing proof that Russian State TV uses her statements for propaganda.


Do you think the US shouldn't have sanctioned Putin?
Is it propaganda when it's the truth?

No, I don't think the US should have sanctioned Putin. Sanctions rarely work, and the ALWAYS hurt ordinary citizens more than the people being sanctioned. If the US wanted to prevent Russia from invading, it could have provided the $40B in military support before the invasion.
 
LOL @Finance85

Finance: Show me Proof

Everybody: Here some quotes

Finance: Yeah, not gonna acknowledge it.

This is as sold as yesterday's insight that if you take blue parts away from a state it would be red.
Nice. Have you ever been to Oregon? Geographically, the Portland metro area is tiny compared to the rest of the state. I guess that nuance got lost on you.
 
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Is it propaganda when it's the truth?

No, I don't think the US should have sanctioned Putin. Sanctions rarely work, and the ALWAYS hurt ordinary citizens more than the people being sanctioned. If the US wanted to prevent Russia from invading, it could have provided the $40B in military support before the invasion.
It's an opinion not the truth. Sometime sanctions work, sometimes they don't. Either way Russia TV is using her statements to justify their position which is propaganda.

Propaganda-information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view
 
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Doesn't matter if she wears red panties or blue.

WOOD.


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yes they are working. Putin is losing badly and the Russian economy is a mess.
Putin isn't losing because of sanctions, and the sanctions didn't prevent him from invading. He is still selling his oil through back channels.
 
It's an opinion not the truth. Sometime sanctions work, sometimes they don't. Either way Russia TV is using her statements to justify their position which is propaganda.

Propaganda-information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view
Russia is using the statements of a retired House member from Hawaii to justify their actions? Isn't that giving Tulsi just a little bit too much gravitas, especially since she's correct?
 
Russia is using the statements of a retired House member from Hawaii to justify their actions? Isn't that giving Tulsi just a little bit too much gravitas, especially since she's correct?
She hasn't been correct on anything and has been a known Putin puppet for years. The End. Now she's launching her new show for the low IQ MAGAs
 
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I miss Nat. He could be here to tell us Putin is misunderstood.
What’s the ‘Russian propaganda’?

“Uh, Ukraine has uh, biological research facilities, which, in fact we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russia forces may be seeking to uh, gain control of. So, we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of uh, Russian forces should they approach.”

Are neocons like Nuland hyping a non-existent concern?

And yet we never missed a beat once Nat slunk away. 97 here plays the same hits down to Nat’s trademarked “did you read about (insert obscure decades old instance of America being the bad guys)? You should research (insert conspiracy theory)” before linking to Jimmy Dore or Glenn Greenwald. Just waiting for Nat’s “the Republicans are the stupid party and the democrats are the evil party” both sidesism. You know it’s inbound.

97 - have the last word. Call me whatever name you want. Not interfacing with you. Ain’t nobody got time for the hours long back and forth you live for.
 
Sorry, I don't get all the talking points. Please explain how she's in lockstep with the Kremlin. I'm truly interested.
Well to start with, her top donor is a Putin apologist. So there's direct proof that she's being paid by Russia.


She's constantly spreading the same message as the Kremlin. That the war is all because Ukraine wanted to join NATO, That there are evil bio-labs that Ukraine was using and the cause of Covid. She keeps claiming Democrats want to undermine freedom, The Russians love her and Tucker, who they love to re-show on their networks. Almost every stance she takes is that of Pro-Russia and she's in lock step with people like Tucker Carlson. She isn't and hasn't been a Democrat for a long/long time. It's no surprise to anyone that she's moved on and isn't welcome. When you attack every position the Democrats hold you can't call yourself a Democrat any longer.

I'm still registered as a Republican simply because of where I live, but I left the Republican party about 7 years ago after voting in lock step any longer. I can't call myself a Republican any more when I think everything they stand for now is disgusting. If we had the Republicans of the early 2000's back then maybe so. While Bush didn't do well, his attempt for compassionate conservatism worked for me, his brother Jeb is brilliant (Something that cost him dearly when running for President). The Republicans have changed and so I'm no longer a Republican.
 
I mean heck, even Mitt Romney called her a Russian stooge and said that her treasonous lies will cost lives. Heck, even Russia media claims she's a state actor.

If she walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, she's probably a duck.

 
“did you read about (insert obscure decades old instance of America being the bad guys)?
‘Decades old’? No need to go back that far, the neocons have been busy in the last decade too.
We’re still arming Saudi Arabia’s despotism while they invade and starve their neighbor in yet another failed regime change war the U.S. decided to involve itself, including a sham single candidate election where the candidate was selected by foreign, invading powers.

If Russia helped Saudi Arabia do to Yemen what the U.S. has helped Saudi Arabia do to Yemen would you view the consequences any differently?
 
And yet we never missed a beat once Nat slunk away. 97 here plays the same hits down to Nat’s trademarked “did you read about (insert obscure decades old instance of America being the bad guys)? You should research (insert conspiracy theory)” before linking to Jimmy Dore or Glenn Greenwald. Just waiting for Nat’s “the Republicans are the stupid party and the democrats are the evil party” both sidesism. You know it’s inbound.

97 - have the last word. Call me whatever name you want. Not interfacing with you. Ain’t nobody got time for the hours long back and forth you live for.
Nat didn't slink away. He died.
 
I may have to actually register as Republican. I’ve always thought of myself as a Tulsi type Dem who stays independent, but the left may be too far gone.
 
and the Russian economy is a mess and shrinking
Everyone understands that sanctions would sunder EU and Russian economies, but will it compel Russia to exit Ukraine?

If the goal of sanctions is economic loss, then they always succeed on that measure, but that in and of itself wasn't the goal, was it?
 
God forbid she actually has a thought of her own and doesn't march in lockstep with the Democrats. Unless she is willing to toe the line, there is no place for her in the Democratic Party. They cannot have a female, military veteran, person of color saying things that are counter to the approved narrative, so they red-bait her. It's a disgusting tactic.
Lmfao. Yes, Gabbard certainly has a “thought of her own,” as she recycles every Tucker Carlson headline from the past six weeks to explain why she is leaving the Democratic Party.

“Elitist cabal”
“Warmongers”
“Cowardly wokeness”
“Anti-white”
“Anti-God”

Yes, those are all statements from someone who is definitely sharing their own unique thoughts and is definitely not using right-wing approved buzz words to pander to a particular audience for personal gain and notoriety. You sure nailed this one!
 
Lmfao. Yes, Gabbard certainly has a “thought of her own,” as she recycles every Tucker Carlson headline from the past six weeks to explain why she is leaving the Democratic Party.

“Elitist cabal”
“Warmongers”
“Cowardly wokeness”
“Anti-white”
“Anti-God”

Yes, those are all statements from someone who is definitely sharing their own unique thoughts and is definitely not using right-wing approved buzz words to pander to a particular audience for personal gain and notoriety. You sure nailed this one!
No serious person uses those words and phrases.
 
Finance sits with the right-wing low information campfire audience.

It doesn't matter what to them what is reality. Just listen to what they want to hear.
If I sit with that crowd, it's coincidence. What crowd do you sit with?

I'm simply asking questions and haven't made up my mind yet. So far, nobody condemning Tulsi has actually provided anything very substantial. It's more like a butthurt bandwagon crowd because she's somehow betrayed her party.
 
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