Makes no sense.
I bet the majority of non-experts, me included, would have expected a very large turnout.
What the heck happened?
Ultimately a LOW turnout vote by Dems; Harris 16 million less votes than Biden
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Makes no sense.
I bet the majority of non-experts, me included, would have expected a very large turnout.
What the heck happened?
What horseshit weaseling is this?
bet
/bet/
verb
- 1.
risk something, usually a sum of money, against someone else's on the basis of the outcome of a future event, such as the result of a race or game.
Democrats in June 2024: Should we think about replacing Harris as VP? Considering her poor numbers and the health of the President, she might drag him down in November.
Democrats in July 2024: Kamala Harris is the most beloved VP in history. We are excited we have the chance to vote for her now instead of 2028!
We had two candidates that the majority of people dislike. That was true in 2016 and 2020 as well, but at least this time we have four years of one of them as President to judge the job they might do.
You've never said "wanna bet" without risking something, just for bragging rights? Huey's avatar is no big deal to me, but he said he would bet for bettings sake which doesn't sound like an agreement to change his avatar.
Biden announced he wanted a woman of color for VP before he even looked for best candidate. That bit him.
Harris picked a VP that wasn’t going to help in battleground states. That bit her.
Harris picked a VP that wasn’t going to help in battleground states. That bit her.
I promise you that Harris had been selected by the time Biden made that announcement. Problem is, it wasn't Biden that made the selection. The insiders want someone that will do what they are told and Harris has a long track record of doing what she is told.
2) she is black
If she was in fact black , she’d have done better. ( see Obama for example) . Denying her ethnicity Indian and Black except when it was convenient (getting elected as the first Indian American Senator in CA for example). But the constant yammering about race and faux facism is what lost your girl the race. Oh, and she sucks at public speaking, and minorities by and large think she’d be a shitty president.
If she was in fact black , she’d have done better. ( see Obama for example) . Denying her ethnicity Indian and Black except when it was convenient (getting elected as the first Indian American Senator in CA for example). But the constant yammering about race and faux facism is what lost your girl the race. Oh, and she sucks at public speaking, and minorities by and large think she’d be a shitty president.
Betting for 'betting's sake' is doing so because there is a game on, etc.
It isn't betting without stakes.
When I say 'you wanna bet' it means I know I'm going to win, because I don't gamble.
@Huey Grey and @fsu1jreed just didn't want to believe their lying eyes about the change in Florida's voting population since 2020.
I really dislike polls in the strongest way. If you see that you're candidate is going to win in the news, then why Putin the effort to vote?
Its possibly looking like a failed strategy. Having Cheney around probably didn't make it any easier, though getting the hardcore leftist wouldn't have prevented this either. I don't think any democrat was gunna win this one. American saw the shit that Donald left us last time and thought, "Sure, we'll have another go."
Attacking voter's rights absolutely held down turnout.
Hell, even naturalized citizens were being flagged.
But they got away with it, so...end of story.
Hell, even naturalized citizens were being flagged.
But they got away with it, so...end of story.
Could be true. I just think Kamala followed the Hillary playbook of being a milquetoast candidate with no real platform and saying "Are you really going to vote for that guy" . Instead of giving voters a clear difference like Biden did in 2020.
The DNC should have learned their lesson the first time, Trump supporters are always going to turn out and you need to find something to motivate your side to do the same.
When did I ever disagree with that?
"real Americans". Just about everything you said here is what is wrong with America. Enjoy your next 4 years. Hope you get exactly what you deserve.
And people sure didn’t seem to give a damn, did they Huey? Why is that?
I said a few months ago she will do worse than hillary. get less votes than hillary.. I might be right but I think there were less voters then, so maybe I need to revise that to: on a percentage basis or on a gap of loss basis . trump with the popular vote is amazing for sure
you need a real charismatic person and magnetic person to draw a crowd to rallies and to voting booths. trump has it. she does not.
Maybe because people are now desensitized to that charge since Ol’ BJ Clinton got away with being a sexual predator for 50 years.
No, just disastrous for you, the rest of us feel warm and fuzzy today. When inflation goes down and our border is secure again, you can thank me then for saving your loser, rear end by voting for the Trumpster.
Let’s be honest here, if a 70 year old Biden had run, he’d have won. America is not ready to vote for a woman, much less a biracial woman. This is where the “blue collar men of all skin colors” came into play.
We all saw the comments directed towards her or even Hillary. It had nothing to do with policy but much to do with a cult of personality, unconscious bias and misogyny mixed in for a good measure.
I know quite a few people that didn’t bother to vote, including the mother of my son.
America is most certainly ready to vote for a qualified woman for president,.. If Nikki Haley had run against Harris the spread would have been even larger than what Trump managed to pull off.
Have you seen the comments regarding Haley? Much of the same.
This is where people like you have a poor understanding of history and voter psychology.
Also, blue collar male and first generation male Latino voters couldn’t care less about policy but are mostly concerned with short term issues such as inflation and the economy. This was reflected in almost every exit poll. They don’t care about the root causes of inflation or spend much time examining how the situation came to be.
Nobody likes lefty Harris either she got 0 primary votes twice
People should vote. Trump had 47% of the popular vote in both 2016 and 2020, he won once barely and lost once barely.
He lost to Biden because Biden got 6 million more votes and just enough.
I bring this up because if the same 81 million who voted for Biden and probably 1 million new ones would have voted for Harris and she wins fairly easily..
Hey, I am a democrat and we know Trump is a felon, serial sexual assaulter, and fraudster in multiple situations that he has been found guilty of, and he is just a scumbag period.
I have no idea why the Repubs go for him. He didnt get anything done his first 4 years and you folks expect somethign different.
They are going after your social security and medicare so watch out for what you wish and voted for
Whether we believe there was any funny business or not, we are back to realistic voting numbers again. Trump losing in 2020 is looking like a blessing for him.
- He missed the inflation that would have happened regardless.
- He now has congress and is ready to roll with his team and not learn as he goes.
- He had additional time to create new allies in Musk, RFK jr, Vivek, Tulsi, etc.
- He has congress and the goodwill of the American people to put in a controlled immigration plan, get out of any wars, incentivize businesses to stay in the US and bring manufacturing back, etc.
Strange as it sounds, he is in a better position losing in 2020 thanks to all those extra votes that came in.
Well the Dems didnt have a whole lot of choice with Biden dropping out when, about Aug 1st.
Right now it looks like the experiment of a woman heading the Dem ticket is a bust but the Dems dont have anyone in the wing like a JFK, Obama or Clinton who were smart and could command attention as well as had good ideas. Who are they going to run Gavin Newsome?? Way too liberal probably but that is ok by me because I am very liberal.
I just don't see adding the input of a bunch of uninformed and uninterested people improving the output of the decision.
I have not positioned myself to rely on political promises and ponzi schemes.
I'm far more angry today than I expected to be. For me to say what I think about blue collar men who voted for Trump would get me banned. But let's just start that as evidenced on this board over and over again, they want trans people to cease to exist. They have a far outsized concern over what people they will never know are doing with their lives and bodies.
I think the vast majority of folks don't care what adults do with their bodies.
I also think a majority of people pause at the idea of sterilizing and mutilating children.
I expect decades from now we'll look back on this period the way we remember the 'science' of eugenics and lobotomies.
And your parents, relatives, neighbors, those you work with. i know, screw them, not my problem.
The only fix for a ponzi is to end it.
FDR's 'secret sauce' was to try and make everyone perceive themselves as a deserving welfare recipient.
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trump is a much worse candidate. And a truly horrible human being. Says a lot about people that voted for him. This is truly disgusting.
