Update: Noah Shannon CLEARED TO PRACTICE. 26 UI student-athletes investigated for online gambling, incl in FB, Men’s BB, Baseball, T&F & Wrestling
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They didn’t bet on Iowa, did they bet against Iowa?
Took the under on offensive points?
there are so many rumors with very few facts.
one rumor was that student athletes were betting on Iowa women's basketball during their National Championship run...I guess that's not true now....
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Story from the Des Moines Register. Once again KF brings some really good insight to the topic. As you will read, he thinks this is an opportunity for the NCAA to reconsider two things: (1) what punishments might be that are fair and relevant to the world we're living in right now; and (2) better education process for student athletes.
Ferentz is hopeful the situation for his football team will be resolved in early August or late August at the latest.
The story:
Des Moines Register
July 26, 2023
INDIANAPOLIS − Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz said Wednesday there is “not a large number” of Hawkeye football players involved in the NCAA’s investigation into sports gambling.
"Long story short, we don't really know what the outcome is going to be,” Ferentz said at Big Ten Media Days. “I don't think anyone condones gambling, especially on the college game. That being said, I've learned a lot the past two months just about gambling.”
Ferentz added: “I think your No. 1 concern, is anybody gambling on your (own) team? … I have no knowledge of anything like that."
Defensive lineman Noah Shannon was the first Iowa football player to be publicly named in the sports-gambling investigation that flagged 26 student-athletes at Iowa and approximately 15 at Iowa State.
“We live in a real different world right now,” Ferentz said. “I think what the NFL has done with their rules makes a lot of sense. I'm hopeful this is an opportunity for the NCAA maybe to reconsider two things − what punishments might be that are fair and relevant to the world we're living in right now. And then probably the bigger thing, there's an opportunity right now for a lot better education process, if you will."
More:Iowa football's Noah Shannon to miss Big Ten Media Days due to NCAA gambling investigation
Ferentz said that "nobody has been pulled from the program at all," meaning anyone involved in the investigation is expected to be able to participate in fall camp. Ferentz is hopeful the situation will be resolved in early August or late August at the latest. Iowa's season opener against Utah State is on Sept. 2.
Shannon was initially expected to be among Iowa’s representatives at Big Ten Media Days. But on July 19, Shannon’s involvement in the NCAA investigation into sports gambling was made public. Linebacker Jay Higgins served as Shannon’s replacement at Big Ten Media Days.
“Being selected to represent the Iowa Hawkeye football team at Big Ten Media Days is a tremendous honor and privilege,” Shannon said in a statement. “I am grateful for the opportunity. However, given the circumstances, I told Coach Ferentz it would (be) best for him to select another player. Since the NCAA review is not yet complete, I don’t feel it is right for me to represent the team.”
More:Iowa football releases first depth chart for fall 2023: 5 things you need to know
Shannon has been a major contributor to Iowa's dominant defense, starting 27 games across the last two seasons. He tallied 44 total tackles last season.
“Noah Shannon’s one of our top, top guys. He’s just a tremendous young man, tremendous person," Ferentz said. "He may or may not have violated an NCAA rule. Time will tell. He has not broken any laws or rules. So he’s first class. I get to see that side of him and see how that’s affected him. He feels badly, that he’s even involved in this.”
According to NCAA guidelines, which are in effect for violations reported on or after May 2, 2023, Hawkeye players' college eligibility would be in jeopardy if they bet on Iowa games (in any sport). Players could lose half a season if they bet on any college football contests. For other wagering activity, they would face a loss of 30% of the season if they wagered more than $800, 20% of the season if they wagered between $501 and $800, 10% of the season for $201 to $500, and gambling education (no games missed) for $200 or less.
More:NCAA announces lesser penalties to punish sports betting — good news for Iowa, ISU and Iowa athletes
"When I was a kid, it was cigarette commercials," Ferentz said. "Now it's gambling commercials. So I think we just really need to reshape our thinking about what's fair. And then also use this as a real educational opportunity to just make sure players understand that there might be some downside to this, too."
Follow Tyler Tachman on Twitter @Tyler_T15, contact him via email at ttachman@gannett.com
Ferentz is hopeful the situation for his football team will be resolved in early August or late August at the latest.
The story:
Kirk Ferentz: 'Not a large number' of Iowa football players in sports gambling investigation
Tyler TachmanDes Moines Register
July 26, 2023
INDIANAPOLIS − Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz said Wednesday there is “not a large number” of Hawkeye football players involved in the NCAA’s investigation into sports gambling.
"Long story short, we don't really know what the outcome is going to be,” Ferentz said at Big Ten Media Days. “I don't think anyone condones gambling, especially on the college game. That being said, I've learned a lot the past two months just about gambling.”
Ferentz added: “I think your No. 1 concern, is anybody gambling on your (own) team? … I have no knowledge of anything like that."
Defensive lineman Noah Shannon was the first Iowa football player to be publicly named in the sports-gambling investigation that flagged 26 student-athletes at Iowa and approximately 15 at Iowa State.
“We live in a real different world right now,” Ferentz said. “I think what the NFL has done with their rules makes a lot of sense. I'm hopeful this is an opportunity for the NCAA maybe to reconsider two things − what punishments might be that are fair and relevant to the world we're living in right now. And then probably the bigger thing, there's an opportunity right now for a lot better education process, if you will."
More:Iowa football's Noah Shannon to miss Big Ten Media Days due to NCAA gambling investigation
Ferentz said that "nobody has been pulled from the program at all," meaning anyone involved in the investigation is expected to be able to participate in fall camp. Ferentz is hopeful the situation will be resolved in early August or late August at the latest. Iowa's season opener against Utah State is on Sept. 2.
Shannon was initially expected to be among Iowa’s representatives at Big Ten Media Days. But on July 19, Shannon’s involvement in the NCAA investigation into sports gambling was made public. Linebacker Jay Higgins served as Shannon’s replacement at Big Ten Media Days.
“Being selected to represent the Iowa Hawkeye football team at Big Ten Media Days is a tremendous honor and privilege,” Shannon said in a statement. “I am grateful for the opportunity. However, given the circumstances, I told Coach Ferentz it would (be) best for him to select another player. Since the NCAA review is not yet complete, I don’t feel it is right for me to represent the team.”
More:Iowa football releases first depth chart for fall 2023: 5 things you need to know
Shannon has been a major contributor to Iowa's dominant defense, starting 27 games across the last two seasons. He tallied 44 total tackles last season.
“Noah Shannon’s one of our top, top guys. He’s just a tremendous young man, tremendous person," Ferentz said. "He may or may not have violated an NCAA rule. Time will tell. He has not broken any laws or rules. So he’s first class. I get to see that side of him and see how that’s affected him. He feels badly, that he’s even involved in this.”
According to NCAA guidelines, which are in effect for violations reported on or after May 2, 2023, Hawkeye players' college eligibility would be in jeopardy if they bet on Iowa games (in any sport). Players could lose half a season if they bet on any college football contests. For other wagering activity, they would face a loss of 30% of the season if they wagered more than $800, 20% of the season if they wagered between $501 and $800, 10% of the season for $201 to $500, and gambling education (no games missed) for $200 or less.
More:NCAA announces lesser penalties to punish sports betting — good news for Iowa, ISU and Iowa athletes
"When I was a kid, it was cigarette commercials," Ferentz said. "Now it's gambling commercials. So I think we just really need to reshape our thinking about what's fair. And then also use this as a real educational opportunity to just make sure players understand that there might be some downside to this, too."
Follow Tyler Tachman on Twitter @Tyler_T15, contact him via email at ttachman@gannett.com
Kirk Ferentz: 'Not a large number' of Iowa football players in sports gambling investigation
Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz said that there are “not a large number” Iowa football players involved in the NCAA’s investigation into sports gambling.
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These seem a bit harsh ...........................
According to NCAA guidelines, which are in effect for violations reported on or after May 2, 2023, Hawkeye players' college eligibility would be in jeopardy if they bet on Iowa games (in any sport). Players could lose half a season if they bet on any college football contests.
According to NCAA guidelines, which are in effect for violations reported on or after May 2, 2023, Hawkeye players' college eligibility would be in jeopardy if they bet on Iowa games (in any sport). Players could lose half a season if they bet on any college football contests.
There have been rumors that student athletes bet on the Iowa women's basketball team as they advanced to the National Championship game.
And to receive the death penalty for that. Seems ridiculous.
Agreed ...losing your college eligibility for placing a bet on a sport (other than your own) that involves the school you attend is way over the top.
No wonder Kirk took the stance that he did...
So maybe this was touched on earlier, but are they really waiting for the DCI to process all the information on everyone involved before the NCAA can proceed with any perceived punishment/appeal process?
And if so, why in the f*** would the cases involving those of age that gambled have to wait with the rest of them when, presumably, their violations are not "criminal" in the legal sense, but rather merely an NCAA rules violation????
Again, this is presuming this is the case...........
And if so, why in the f*** would the cases involving those of age that gambled have to wait with the rest of them when, presumably, their violations are not "criminal" in the legal sense, but rather merely an NCAA rules violation????
Again, this is presuming this is the case...........
Not really. If consumers lose trust in the integrity of games they'll stop watching, when they stop watching everyone loses money. Go watch the documentary about when the NBA fought this battle with Tim Donaghy.
Do you really say "integrity of the system" and not being sarcastic??
Remind me again what punishment Kansas basketball has suffered?
Aside from existing, they also have to deal with their fanbase, which is what we like to call an eternal punishment.......
And if any bet against the Iowa women's team that is not gonna be a good look! And if they bet for them to win, then hell yeah what do they expect!
How did the NCAA allegedly get Noah Shannon's name? The Iowa DCI couldn't have given it to them as he didn't break any laws. He was of age to gamble.
I love how you used quotes to "quote" something I never posted. So no, I never said integrity of the system.
When did Kansas basketball ever affect the integrity of the outcome in college basketball games? No one cares about recruiting.
Okay so yuuuuuuge difference .................... "integrity of games". doesn't mean nearly the same as what I said FFS.
Yeah my thought is it could mean he bet on a game he participated in. But we will see.
The UI reported the potential violations to the NCAA.
The timeline:
May 2: University of Iowa leadership was notified of potential criminal conduct related to sports wagering that also suggested possible NCAA violations.
May 3: Law enforcement notified the university that additional information would be provided the following day.
May 4: The university received a list of individuals alleged to have participated in sports wagering.
May 5: The University of Iowa took the following action:
- notified several student-athletes that they would not be participating in upcoming competitions;
- alerted the NCAA to potential violations; and
- engaged outside legal counsel to advise the university and potentially lead an investigation.
Again if a player is old enough to gamble. What law is broken?
Agree...as long as they stayed away from games they played in there shouldn't be any "death penalty" punishments.
The law where it's illegal to lie to investigators, tamper with evidence, and use someone else's identity to gamble.
Again, so I don't have to comb this entire thread, WHAT Iowa football players (namely starters) are going to get dinged and what are the consequences? I heard Shannon but for how many games? Enough already
So a few ISU players and one Iowa Baseball player made the news on this last night. So are they doing this in stages?? Meaning, they talked about 26 from Iowa and 15 from ISU being investigated. Why release these last night if you were not complete? I am probably missing something but I am not understanding.
I'm just speculating. But maybe 3 names released yesterday or the worst of it meaning the 3 of them who lied to investigators who are facing the worst of the charges.
Also for those wondering DCI with legalization of gambling has on top of gaming agents at casinos now has a dedicated unit to focus on online sports gambling. That also is why college athletes probably got looked into. Assuming other states have something similar but with size of our state compared to one large ones like GA or TX allows them to look into this type of stuff where others may not have time or resources to do so. I'd bet, non pun intended, that many other states know if they went down this road they'd find the same thing but easier to turn a blind eye to it.
Perhaps these are the individuals with criminal liability for lying to the DCI?
Others might follow, but the worst ones announced first.
Just a guess.
Edit...Previous post beat mine.
Dekkers was also underage and obviously used parent account. Can’t believe he didn’t understand all cell phones are basically tracked as to location.
To me, the fact that his parents were involved is astonishing.
And then, apparently, contributed to trying to mislead investigators.
Anyone know what Daddy Dekkers does for a living? I've seen Jami Dekkers is in the insurance business and Hunter's grandparents own a very large cattle feeding business.
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Better yet what does the wrestler Paniro Johnson do? That kid made like 45K in bets
I still believe he was just the guy with the account and the wrestling team was betting in his name.
Why would an law enforcement investigator be interviewing a 21 year old about under age gambling.
When it comes to betting on your own team:
1) I’m ok if you are betting your team to win
2) I’m ok if you are betting your team to beat the spread. ISU picked to lose by 20 and you win if they lose by less
3) Never ok to bet against team
4) Never ok to bet against spread, ie win by less than projected.
5) Never ok to bet over/ under
I know betting Under for defensive players seems ok, until you get Int and have potential pick 6.
unfortunately, 1) & 2) lead to gambling addiction resulting in real problems.
1) I’m ok if you are betting your team to win
2) I’m ok if you are betting your team to beat the spread. ISU picked to lose by 20 and you win if they lose by less
3) Never ok to bet against team
4) Never ok to bet against spread, ie win by less than projected.
5) Never ok to bet over/ under
I know betting Under for defensive players seems ok, until you get Int and have potential pick 6.
unfortunately, 1) & 2) lead to gambling addiction resulting in real problems.
Smart kid, not smart enough to just have a friend place the bet
