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Update: Noah Shannon CLEARED TO PRACTICE. 26 UI student-athletes investigated for online gambling, incl in FB, Men’s BB, Baseball, T&F & Wrestling

but what? rejected or is there
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since he bet on another Iowa team (WBB?), not sure what his chances are in an appeal. for now, I wouldn't count on having him back this year. At least he still gets to practice w/ the team.

but it sure would be sweet if the suspension got reduced to 50% of the season & he was back for the Oct 14 game in Madison.

The schedule:

Sep 2 Utah State
Sep 9 at Clown U
Sep 16 Western Mich
Sep 23 at Penn State
Sep 30 Michigan State
Oct 7 Purdue
Oct 14 at Wisconsin
Oct 21 vs Minny
Nov 4 at N'western
Nov 11 vs Rutgers
Nov 18 vs Illinois
Nov 24 at Little Debbie
 
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Does shannon still have a chance of having that suspension revoked or reduced? if already asked and answered in previous pages, apologies.

Since the punishment for "the crime" is clearly spelled out in black and white, I would say NO chance at all, but we'll see....


IMO, the wording for the new gambling rules is poor. See what I highlighted in rust color below. The key word that sticks out to me is "potentially."

So, a one year suspension could potentially be reduced. But, maybe Shannon's suspension has already gone from a permanent ban to a one year ban. Who knows. And his eligibility was already set to expire after this season, unless I am mistaken.

Any way, it will be interesting to see what happens, if anything.

The new rules related to gambling:

NCAA DI Council approves changes to reinstatement guidelines for sports wagering violations


June 28, 2023
2:30 pm

The Division I Legislative Committee on Tuesday ratified a Division I Committee on Student Athlete Reinstatement decision to amend guidelines for reinstating the eligibility of student-athletes who commit violations relating to sports wagering. The Division I Council was briefed on those new guidelines during its meeting this week in Indianapolis.

For all wagering-related violations reported on or after May 2, the following guidelines will apply:

  • Student-athletes who engage in activities to influence the outcomes of their own games or knowingly provide information to individuals involved in sports betting activities will potentially face permanent loss of collegiate eligibility in all sports. This would also apply to student-athletes who wager on their own games or on other sports at their own schools.
  • If a student-athlete wagers on their own sport at another school, education on sports wagering rules and prevention will be required as a condition of reinstatement, and the loss of 50% of one season of eligibility will be considered.
  • For all other wagering-related violations (e.g., wagering on professional sports), cumulative dollar value of the wagers will be taken into consideration with the following terms for reinstatement:
    • $200 or less: sports wagering rules and prevention education.
    • $201-$500: loss of 10% of a season of eligibility, plus rules and prevention education.
    • $501-$800: loss of 20% of a season of eligibility, plus rules and prevention education.
    • Greater than $800: loss of 30% of a season of eligibility, plus rules and prevention education.
For cumulative wagering activities that greatly exceed $800, NCAA reinstatement staff are directed to consider whether additional loss of eligibility, including permanent ineligibility, are appropriate.

"These new guidelines modernize penalties for college athletes at a time when sports wagering has been legalized in dozens of states and is easily accessible nationwide with online betting platforms," said Alex Ricker-Gilbert, athletics director at Jacksonville and chair of the DI Legislative Committee. "While sports wagering by college athletes is still a concern — particularly as we remain committed to preserving the integrity of competition in college sports — consideration of mitigating factors is appropriate as staff prescribe penalties for young people who have made mistakes in this space."

Previous reinstatement guidelines, which were implemented prior to the broader legalization of sports wagering, stipulated that in most cases, student-athletes who wagered on sports at any level would lose one full season of collegiate eligibility.

The council directed the national office to continue to explore issues around rules education and integrity monitoring and requested additional updates on these topics.

 
Since the punishment for "the crime" is clearly spelled out in black and white, I would say NO chance at all, but we'll see....
The NCAA has many times gave a minor slap on the back of the hand to schools and teams that have done some really bad shit like cheating, paying players, having students take courses for players, etc. So black and white rules really do not apply here and I hope Shannon has a lawyer etc who can make a really good argument if it turns out there was just one or two bets on Iowa WBB.

We will see and I think it would be great to see Shannon play on Sr Day.
 
I doubt if those teams in the SEC are aware of the opportunities to gamble on sports. lol
 
Did someone go rogue?

Van Plumb, attorney for former Cyclone Eyioma Uwazurike, filed a second discovery motion.

“The Defendant believes, based upon the forgoing, that either an Agent of the Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission or Department of Criminal Investigation used the Gaming Commission’s GeoComply software to target male athletes at Iowa and Iowa State in 4 of the men’s programs for a reason yet to be known. The Agent or Agents did not follow the rules as set out by the Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission in reporting their activity nor did they follow the Terms of Use established by GeoComply for use of their software.

“GeoComply was in fact used to obtain personal data that should have required a warrant and such use of GeoComply to obtain personal data was a violation of their rights. The State’s actions, whether intentional or not, have villainized the targeted young men for making young men mistakes.

“These young men have been held to account and have held themselves accountable to the NCAA and NFL for their actions, actions as argued by the Defendant, with the exception of underage gambling, are not violations of Iowa Law.

“Iowa Racing and Gaming as well the Iowa Department of Criminal Investigation are not codified enforcement agencies for the NCAA or the NFL. But, they are State of Iowa Enforcement Agencies governed by their own set of rules and procedures, with such rules and procedures appearing to have been violated from the evidence supplied to the Defendant as of this date. The Defendant is requesting the additional information so that the agents, as grown-trained members of our state agencies, can also be held accountable if they have in fact violated these young men’s rights or broken the rules established for them to ensure equal protection to all Iowans.”


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Did someone go rogue?

Van Plumb, attorney for former Cyclone Eyioma Uwazurike, filed a second discovery motion.

“The Defendant believes, based upon the forgoing, that either an Agent of the Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission or Department of Criminal Investigation used the Gaming Commission’s GeoComply software to target male athletes at Iowa and Iowa State in 4 of the men’s programs for a reason yet to be known. The Agent or Agents did not follow the rules as set out by the Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission in reporting their activity nor did they follow the Terms of Use established by GeoComply for use of their software.

“GeoComply was in fact used to obtain personal data that should have required a warrant and such use of GeoComply to obtain personal data was a violation of their rights. The State’s actions, whether intentional or not, have villainized the targeted young men for making young men mistakes.

“These young men have been held to account and have held themselves accountable to the NCAA and NFL for their actions, actions as argued by the Defendant, with the exception of underage gambling, are not violations of Iowa Law.

“Iowa Racing and Gaming as well the Iowa Department of Criminal Investigation are not codified enforcement agencies for the NCAA or the NFL. But, they are State of Iowa Enforcement Agencies governed by their own set of rules and procedures, with such rules and procedures appearing to have been violated from the evidence supplied to the Defendant as of this date. The Defendant is requesting the additional information so that the agents, as grown-trained members of our state agencies, can also be held accountable if they have in fact violated these young men’s rights or broken the rules established for them to ensure equal protection to all Iowans.”


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Someone with an agenda.....
 
Did someone go rogue?

Van Plumb, attorney for former Cyclone Eyioma Uwazurike, filed a second discovery motion.

“The Defendant believes, based upon the forgoing, that either an Agent of the Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission or Department of Criminal Investigation used the Gaming Commission’s GeoComply software to target male athletes at Iowa and Iowa State in 4 of the men’s programs for a reason yet to be known. The Agent or Agents did not follow the rules as set out by the Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission in reporting their activity nor did they follow the Terms of Use established by GeoComply for use of their software.

“GeoComply was in fact used to obtain personal data that should have required a warrant and such use of GeoComply to obtain personal data was a violation of their rights. The State’s actions, whether intentional or not, have villainized the targeted young men for making young men mistakes.

“These young men have been held to account and have held themselves accountable to the NCAA and NFL for their actions, actions as argued by the Defendant, with the exception of underage gambling, are not violations of Iowa Law.

“Iowa Racing and Gaming as well the Iowa Department of Criminal Investigation are not codified enforcement agencies for the NCAA or the NFL. But, they are State of Iowa Enforcement Agencies governed by their own set of rules and procedures, with such rules and procedures appearing to have been violated from the evidence supplied to the Defendant as of this date. The Defendant is requesting the additional information so that the agents, as grown-trained members of our state agencies, can also be held accountable if they have in fact violated these young men’s rights or broken the rules established for them to ensure equal protection to all Iowans.”


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When has any government entity been held accountable for doing anything shady when trying to get convictions. And the ncaa is no better holding the big boys accountable when they get caught cheating that has more impact on the game than a few low level student athlete gamblers.
 
And I think we all still want to know for a FACT what started the whole investigation.

Did someone go rogue, as this lawyer suggests?

Van Plumb, attorney for former Cyclone Eyioma Uwazurike, filed a second discovery motion.

“The Defendant believes, based upon the forgoing, that either an Agent of the Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission or Department of Criminal Investigation used the Gaming Commission’s GeoComply software to target male athletes at Iowa and Iowa State in 4 of the men’s programs for a reason yet to be known. The Agent or Agents did not follow the rules as set out by the Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission in reporting their activity nor did they follow the Terms of Use established by GeoComply for use of their software.

“GeoComply was in fact used to obtain personal data that should have required a warrant and such use of GeoComply to obtain personal data was a violation of their rights. The State’s actions, whether intentional or not, have villainized the targeted young men for making young men mistakes.

“These young men have been held to account and have held themselves accountable to the NCAA and NFL for their actions, actions as argued by the Defendant, with the exception of underage gambling, are not violations of Iowa Law.

“Iowa Racing and Gaming as well the Iowa Department of Criminal Investigation are not codified enforcement agencies for the NCAA or the NFL. But, they are State of Iowa Enforcement Agencies governed by their own set of rules and procedures, with such rules and procedures appearing to have been violated from the evidence supplied to the Defendant as of this date. The Defendant is requesting the additional information so that the agents, as grown-trained members of our state agencies, can also be held accountable if they have in fact violated these young men’s rights or broken the rules established for them to ensure equal protection to all Iowans.”


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another horse shit decision by the NCAA...
they screwed Drew Ott... now they are screwed Noah Shannon

imagine if Noah Shannon had assisted in a murder.. he's be playing next week.

Different rules for Alabama.

What follows is in reference to former Alabama basketball star Brandon Miller, who drove the murder weapon to the killer.




 
It’s really going to piss me off when they finally investigate gambling in other states and the players having done the same thing as Noah won’t be suspended for the entire year because way more athletes will be involved.

Who's "they?"

The NCAA didn't investigate Iowa's or ISU's athletes. Iowa's Department of Criminal Investigation - in some fashion or another - determined that Iowa and ISU athletes were gambling. Those names were turned over to Iowa's AD and ISU's AD. The athletes were, by rule, immediately suspended. Both Iowa and ISU - with the help of legal counsel - sought reinstatement. Given what was presented to them, the NCAA determined when the athlete could return - if at all. Shannon appealed his decision and it was denied.

It's a tough deal but the "loss of permanent eligibility" penalty for betting on teams at the player's institution has been in place since at least 2016. When the NCAA re-examined and made modifications to the rules regarding reinstatement, it chose NOT to change the punishment for betting on teams at a player's institution. Given that KF acknowledged that Shannon bet on another Iowa team, it seemed pretty clear to me at the time that Shannon's appeal was the epitome of a long shot.

I certainly feel for the guy but there can be zero doubt that it was a self-inflicted penalty. If you're told not to gamble and, if you do, you risk your eligibility but chose to disregard the information supplied . . . c'est la vie.
 

There's clearly a line that's firmly drawn by the NCAA. The haves and the have nots.

Teams in Iowa aren't members of the HAVES, so they have to comply with all NCAA rules... otherwise they will be shown NO MERCY when handing out punishment.

Guess they shouldn't have self reported, as the NCAA doesn't cut any slack for that :rolleyes:
 
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There's clearly a line that's firmly drawn by the NCAA. The haves and the have nots.

Teams in Iowa aren't members of the HAVES, so they have to comply with all NCAA rules... otherwise they will be shown NO MERCY when handing out punishment.

Guess they shouldn't have self reported, as the NCAA doesn't cut any slack for that :rolleyes:

If the NCAA went away, nobody would miss them
 
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