You're colossally full of shit, just making stuff up as you go along. You obviously had no idea when you came into this thread what the guidelines are for these scenarios, anybody other than the hardcore trolls would have slunk away in embarrassment by now.
Damn...you have no idea what you're talking about. Officers on the scene of an active shooter do not wait for "commands". They have been trained to confront the shooter as quickly as possible. Even a single officer is obligated to do so. School shooting protocols include having master keys available for responding officers so locked doors don't stump them. The officers from the BP who did their jobs were apparently slowed because no officer already on the scene was waiting at the door with a key to open it. After an hour on scene, either they still weren't ready to enter the room or they delayed aid to a group of officers who weren't going to wait for "commands"
Then they didn’t do it right. This was a cluster F of a response.
The UCISD police "force". Not over the hill...just incompetent. They f'd up the single most important job that justifies their existence.
It would be helpful to know why the authorities concluded it was no longer an active shooter when there were a number of students from inside the room calling 911 with gunshots in the background. Also why did they think he was barricaded when they were able to open the door with a key?
And AGAIN...for all of you that are reading right past, or not reading at all, the command on the scene determined, erroneously, that it was NOT an active shooter situation, but a "hostage/barricade" situation.
If you are paying attention to LEO experts...ask them if the protocol was in fact followed in light of the fact that command declared the situation as a "hostage/barricade " one and then commanded officers not to breech the barricade.
I READ the articles linked in this thread. Everything I am saying is in them. LOLOLOL.
Ironic...the assessment of the situation was changed from "active shooter" to "hostage/barricade"...at that moment, the protocol response changed.
And again, I ask. How the hell could they not hear the gunshots?
"Too many cooks in the kitchen" does appear to be one of the factors that led to the poor response. For instance, the 911 call info were being fed, not to the person(s) in command on the scene, but the local PD.
Yes, yes it was. BUT that the overall response was a mess DOESN'T then mean every officer that followed command AND situational protocol is a coward.
Although i believe a border patrol officer led the breech, my understanding is that he was joined in doing so by others present...to include local PD. This should be confirmed, but i don't think your statement is accurate.
I already addressed that to the extent that i can...it is probably BECAUSE they heard the gunshots that they came to the realization that the declaration of a "hostage/barricade" situation was incorrect...leading some of them to ultimately take matters into their own hands.
LOL. You're like the stereotype of a bad cop, asserting unearned authority, completely full of shit, more interested in covering ass and maintaining you're "in charge" status than anything else. Falling back on whatever bullshit "procedural" excuse you can come up with after the fact to justify failing completely at your job.
This is just not true. The officers in question gave original statements and have not made any other statements. The only thing that changed daily is the reporting and the little bits of info that are coming from sources that are NOT the officers in question. You are reacting to headlines that are designed to elicited reactions.
Thank you. You exactly right. It scares me that so many are so easily led, actually...misled, and then will argue and huff and puff incessantly...all the while not being in possession of an accurate understanding.
And that is not the training! Their sole job is to take out the shooter. Is to stop the carnage.
In an active shooter situation...yes, you would be correct. Well, technically, it is not their sole job, but it is the #1 priority, we agree on that.
Oh for cripes sake. You know exactly what I was saying and claiming, that "official law enforcement sources" have been lying and changing their stories from day one of this thing. Are you disputing that?
