Updates on Team. Per Fran, Connor is 6th Man. Starters are Joe, JBO, Patrick, Keegan, Filip.
- Thread starter Franisdaman
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That glue guy was important the last two seasons but the composition of this team does not really leave a lot of room for a guy that brings no real offense to the floor. The hour is approaching when we all see if Connor has some offensive ability beyond merely feeding the post.
Man, I can't wait for some Hawk hoops. Got BTN+ to catch the early season action and maybe watch some past games. Go Hawks!
right now:
3 in November (Nov 5 is our first game vs The Slippery Rock)
2 in December
Full Schedule:
Start times & TV are subject to change.
Right now, 5 of Iowa's games are on BTN Plus.
All of these are on BTN PLUS except Longwood (regular BTN TV).
Right now, 5 of Iowa's games are on BTN Plus.
All of these are on BTN PLUS except Longwood (regular BTN TV).
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interesting that we have a 9 pm start for the Tues, Nov 9 game vs Longwood on BTN
The BTN just wanted to make Iowa fans wait a couple hours extra to see our new team.
Franisdaman, are you going to find any "safe" venues to watch these BTN+ games or should I bite the bullet and just pay up?
Franisdaman, are you going to find any "safe" venues to watch these BTN+ games or should I bite the bullet and just pay up?
The Iowa Women play in the opening game that night.
That would be a cool double header to attend, if nothing else.
Does one ticket get you in for both games? The women's game would be over by 7:30, so it would kinda suck to sit around for 90 minutes for the men's game to start.
Tues. Nov 9, 2021
Iowa Women vs New Hampshire
5:30 pm CT
BTN Plus
Iowa Men vs Longwood
9:00 pm CT
BTN TV
i used to post them here but because of some of the feedback I received it made me decide it's not worth it & I no longer do it
I got the BIG+ monthly pass. Will cancel it on Dec. 29 after the Western Illinois game.
Id love to see Iowa play a front line of Pat, Keegan and Kris against those teams.
Iso those slow bigs on the perimeter and make them defend at the 3pt line.
Thats how modern basketball works. If you choose to play big slow guys you are at the disadvantage not the smaller quicker team.
On defense just swarm them with multiple long armed defenders and they will turn the ball over more often than not.
Get super agressive with the double and triples and they can't do anything but turn it over, get blocked, force bad shots or offensive foul.
Besides Purdue, their big is a good passer.
I agree to an extent. However the B10 has a ton of great coaches and if we go small I expect we would pay a big price for it against some teams. Keegan guarding Kofi for example is a recipe for him to get in foul trouble, or for us to double and give up kick out 3's. The kick out 3 is the highest efficiency shot in basketball, and a better shot then we will get going 5 out with Kofi guarding Keegan at the perimeter. Maybe if our bigs were 44% from 3 point land, but I think Keegan, Kris and Patrick are more like 35% shooters from 3.
But overall, putting Ogundele or Mulvey in is a tradeoff on the offensive end as neither are great scorers at any level so you just have to pick which tradeoff makes the best sense. Garza was a luxury as he hit 40% from 3 and could still body up bigs in the post. A few centers still got the best of him, though.
I do not agree that Kofi can consistently produce good looks off kickouts he is a terrible passer.
He'll get his buckets but he will turn it over far more often than get an assist.
Iowa is uniquely suited to doubling the post this year with the length and athleticism of the Murrays and Pat. All 3 are going to block a ton of shots from behind.
I agree Iowa has to be able to hit some 3s but you don't have to just shoot 3s playing 5 out. If the opossing 5 isn't going to leave the paint then his man becomes a screener too.
Yeah Kofi not the ideal example for passing but there are others.
The only advantage on screen and roll when the off ball defender sags and plays drop coverage on the ball handler is if the ball handler can knock down a 3 or a 17 footer off the dribble. Bohannon can do this but many others would see a 5% drop off in 3 pt shooting coming off a screen like that with a defender going over the screen and pressuring you. The defense might accept those percentages.
They might but I'd be willing to accept it too because I think ultimately it gives Iowa the advantages.
The thing with Iowa being able to go "small" this year is they're not going to give up the things you normally do in college to play that way.
Having 2 Murrays on the floor together is going to make Iowa a stronger rebounding and shot blocking team not weaker assuming Kris can do similar things as Keegan defensively.
Its why Keegan is a 1st round prospect. Because of his versatility defensively. Iowa normally never has these guys let alone two of them.
The Slippery Rock ?right now:
3 in November (Nov 5 is our first game vs The Slippery Rock)
2 in December
Full Schedule:
Do you have to sigh up for an entire year or can you sigh up for one month at a time?
Probably a good thing this year. Iowa is basically, in many ways, breaking out an entirely new kind of team with several players getting significant time and responsibilities for the first time. Schedule down when you're young; schedule up when you're experienced.
Our goal is to be cohesive in the new model when the Big Ten season starts. Get enough Big Ten wins and the OOC schedule will not much matter.
The Murrays are two different people. You can't expect them to play the same
Kris & Keegan like to rebound, just like their dad; I like your idea.
It will be interesting to compare starting line ups & rotations on Fri Nov 5 with Dec 3 at Purdue and Dec 6 vs Illinois.
I suspect the starting 5 on Nov 5 will be:
JoeT
JBo
Patrick
Keegan
Filip
Will that be the starting line up on Dec 3 at Purdue? Time will tell.
I hope we see a lot of the Murray twins on the court together.
If JoeT continues to have turnover problems, Ulis might take the starting PG job.
2021-2022 Roster:
2 Freshmen
6'7" F Payton Sandfort
6'11" C Riley Mulvey
6 Sophomores
6'11" C Josh Ogundele
6'4" G Tony Perkins
6'2" G Ahron Ulis
6'8" F Keegan Murray
6'8" F Kris Murray
6'9" SF Patrick McCaffery
2 Juniors
5'10" PG Joe Toussaint
6'9" SF Filip Rebraca
3 Seniors
6'0" PG Jordan Bohannon
6'5" G/F Connor McCaffery
6'2" Guard Austin Ash
2 Notable Preferred Walk on players:
Freshmen
Luc Laketa--a 2021 6'6" wing/forward
Carter Kingsbury--a 2021 6'5", 230 lb shooting guard
Yea you can and in many ways.....give Kris a bit more rope with more PT but I agree with what Dan is saying and what Rock is saying in this thread too.
The thing the Murrays and I feel the rest of the roster will bring is an attitude to get after it on both ends especially quick to the ball and on the boards.
Some players at any level just have a nose for the ball...and you don't have to be the biggest guy on the floor either but they are aggressive and have some athleticism...quick hops or just quickness (JT, Ulis, Perkins and JBo gets a lot of rebounds for his size).
There are vids that Franisdaman has posted where Keegan is defending on one side of the lane and quickly transitions to the other side at the rim to block 6'11 Micah Potters shot....like Rock is saying a reason why Keegan is a potential All B1G player and NBA prospect...not many players can do this but Keegan can even do more than that and so will Kris in time.....fully confident Kris will be able to deliver like Keegan and in subtle different ways though per his dad.
We've already seen where JT can cover ground and space like not too many other players I've seen wearing a Hawk uni ( a long time too)...Ulis can do this as well.
Point is.....I do agree with Rock that having both Murrays in the lineup and on the floor together with Pat, JT, Ulis, Perkins, Rebraca, Conner and any other combination going bigger is going to make Iowa a stronger rebounding and shot blocking team. Especially when JoshO and Mulvey learn how to play with the aggressiveness and attitude needed and they will. I think both of those players will just need some PT and a learning curve but they are going to learning very quickly just how tough you have to play in this league...... they are big talented fellas, ramp it up sooner than later and it's all good.
“I will not be Keegan’s brother this year. You will know me as Kris Murray."
And who wins the 1 on 1 matchup?
“He wouldn’t tell you that, but I beat him pretty good one-on-one,” Kris said.
Nice FREE story by Rick Brown on Kris Murray. cc: @PHawkKenyon
Kris Murray Looking to Build on Freshman Season
Iowa Forward Used First Campaign as a Learning Experiencewww.si.com
If you missed this story that I posted on Saturday on Kris, it's a nice read.
And note who wins one on one.
The link, again:
Kris Murray Looking to Build on Freshman Season
Iowa Forward Used First Campaign as a Learning Experience
I do agree that Keegan erased a lot of defensive mistakes last year with rim protection, rebounding and how much ground he covers. If Kris can replicate that, and to a lesser extent Patrick, it goes a long way towards rim protection. We have some solid defensive guards (Joe T, Perkins, Ulis) for the perimeter. The impact Keegan had on defense was very tangible and having a twin with a similar defensive skill set will be great....and those skill sets are impactful both in man and zone as well as extended pressure.
But no matter how good Keegan is there are guys he can't defend on the block and the B10 has more of those types of guys than one might think when one just envisions "modern basketball".
This is true on pick and roll as well. We hedged pick and roll with Garza much of last year and the roller was to be picked up by another defender. This worked against NW whose Center wasn't big enough to dominate Keegan or Joe W who came to help, but when we tried it against Illinois and Michigan it failed miserably as Kofi and Dickenson ate up the help defenders. Why we didn't use drop coverage against those teams I'll never know.
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Yeah, theres definitely things you give up to play smaller but its a trade off.
I agree if a big gets the ball too deep its a bucket and that will happen sometimes but I wouldn’t compare anything done defensively with Garza on the floor to what it would look like next year.
If Iowa was going to play the same type of D as normal, yes it would be bad but If you have a guy like Keegan at the 5 you don't hedge the pick. You switch it or trap it depending on how good the pg is.
The goal is to prevent the pass from happening.
If you switch you smother the ballhandler forcing him to pass to the wing or drive instead of a pass to the big. If he is able to drive you have one long armed shot blocker trailing the guard and one or two more roaming around to meet him at the rim.
Luka was never able to put any kind of pressure on the ballhandler he was just taking up space.
The guys we'll have defending the ballhandler makes a big difference too.
Sure wish we had Jack Nunge coming back. He could really defend. He would have had a really big year for us. I am sure he will be a Monster for Xavier.
100% agreement….. I hope the best for the young man, but selfishly I wish he was still at Iowa.
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