USC and UCLA to the B1G?
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I'll bang the drum all day and night for wrestling but USC/UCLA not having wrestling has zero bearing on this deal.
USC used to have a NWCA club team a couple of years ago. I had donated money a few times but they stopped hitting me up and I guess the disbanded.
Spending $0 on wrestling to get $30-40M from BTN is an even better trade off for those schools.
For the sake of the sport I hope they add programs.
Try $80-$100MM per school. That is the current estimate based on the $1B+ TV deal allegedly being negotiated. There is speculation that FOX approached USC and UCLA about moving and not the B10.
They add wrestling and current B1G schools add Beach volleyball. I hear beach space at Lake McBride is available.
Which makes spending $0 on wrestling an even bigger trade off for both schools.
USC is well behind sponsoring athletic teams when compared to PSU, tOSU or even MI. Who knows if they will ever add wrestling, however, given their stature, it would surprise me if they didn’t add programs.
Interesting read about how and why UCLA and a few other schools dropped wrestling in the first place. Pretty distasteful.
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If the administrators are interested in giving opportunities to young men and women to enrich their lives, then - as a result of the increase flow of money, naturally they will add sports. If however, if it is all about making money and hiring more friends as administrators and feeding their egos, they probably will not add sports. Let's see how this plays out.
According to Wikipedia, UCLA & USC already offer more varsity sports than nine existing conference schools. Why should they add more sports if the schools that are already lagging behind them don't?
School | B1G Men's | non-con Men's | B1G Women's | non-con Women's | Total |
| Ohio State | 14 | 4 | 14 | 5 | 37 |
| Penn State | 14 | 2 | 13 | 2 | 31 |
| Michigan | 14 | 0 | 14 | 1 | 28 |
| Rutgers | 10 | 2 | 14 | 1 | 27 |
| Wisconsin | 11 | 1 | 11 | 2 | 25 |
| UCLA | 9 | 2 | 12 | 2 | 25 |
| USC | 8 | 2 | 12 | 2 | 24 |
| Indiana | 11 | 0 | 12 | 1 | 23 |
| Michigan State | 11 | 0 | 12 | 0 | 23 |
| Illinois | 10 | 0 | 11 | 0 | 21 |
| Iowa | 8 | 0 | 13 | 1 | 21 |
| Minnesota | 9 | 0 | 12 | 1 | 21 |
| Nebraska | 10 | 0 | 11 | 3 | 21 |
| Maryland | 8 | 0 | 12 | 0 | 20 |
| Purdue | 10 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 20 |
| Northwestern | 8 | 0 | 10 | 1 | 18 |
so if Iowa is interested in enriching it’s students lives it will add men’s swimming, tennis, and gymnastics?
Here’s hoping this USC/UCLA-Big Ten merger careens off the track, crashes and burns | Jones
The more I think about it, the more I hope this acquisition engineered by the bloodless weasels at FOX Sports derails and explodes. For what it'll do to the Trojan and Bruin athletes through endless travel, and the diminishment of the Pac-12, it deserves a fiery death.
This is from a long time Penn State beat writer in central PA. I thought it was a good read.
Just to point out a minor grammatical error in the above posting. Recent legislation provides the correct spelling as “TOSU”. No longer is the school in the middle of the state of Ohio titled “tOSU”.
Please try not to muddle the above with; the Oklahoma State University, or the Oregon State University. Or the Pennsylvania State University.
Undoubtedly this grammatical article/correction will lead to great confusion is buckeye-land, and countless misspellings. However it just seems right that contributors to The University of Iowa wrestling board should observe the correct spelling, “The”. And try to avoid the buckeye faithful misspelling, “the.”
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I still go with tO$UJust to point out a minor grammatical error in the above posting. Recent legislation provides the correct spelling as “TOSU”. No longer is the school in the middle of the state of Ohio titled “tOSU”.
Please try not to muddle the above with; the Oklahoma State University, or the Oregon State University. Or the Pennsylvania State University.
Undoubtedly this grammatical article/correction will lead to great confusion is buckeye-land, and countless misspellings. However it just seems right that contributors to The University of Iowa wrestling board should observe the correct spelling, “The”. And try to avoid the buckeye faithful misspelling, “the.”
If Iowa gets a sudden uptick in income that is almost certain to last for years and years to come, then they can either add sports or add administrators.
You're absolutely correct. That's the name-of-the-game, today. Isn't that what this move is all-about?
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Holy missing the mark. Iowa is going to reinvest it into their athletic programs—largely the revenue sports—just like everyone else. This money is largely going to be spoken for just to keep up with rapidly rising costs and keeping up with the Jones’.
sports were not dropped because of income. if that were the case certain;y would not have added woman's wrestling
Let’s be honest, Iowa wouldn’t have started the women’s wrestling team if it wasn’t for the Title IX lawsuit. It was more of a financial and saving face decision than an altruistic decision to benefit female athletes.
Let’s be realistic here. The suit accelerated the women’s but is not responsible for the women’s team. It would’ve come within 5 years regardless.
I believe that is correct. However, if they have a sudden huge surge, adding another sport would be in the best interests of the students. I am assuming there willl be much more money put into administrative salaries though. I feel they would serve the kids by adding sports, but almost no chance of that happening at Iowa or USC or UCLA - IMHO. I am not saying it would happen. I was saying that they have a choice. I believe they will go the route you have suggested. Sad but true.
Distasteful? I mean I'd much rather they cut men's golf or gymnastics but they were just making moves to help feed the cash cow that makes all the other non revenue sports possible in the first place. In all those examples the football programs experienced quite a bit of success afterward which is much better for the athletic dept overall so it is what is but I'd hardly call it distasteful
And maybe Iowa got a few more individual national champions because those teams didn't exist all these years, who knows?
USC and UCLA adding both mens and womens programs seems like a great and obvious idea... so I'm certain it will never happen
Did the success come from more money because they we're not spending it on the minor sports or from increased TV revenue which just happened to coincide with the dropping of sports? You can almost bet your bottom dollar that they could have kept the sports and cuts administative positions and gotten the same result.
You're on quite the administrative tangent the past few days. Care to relate where that's coming from? Also, what administrative positions are superfluous and how much would a school save by cutting these positions, and in turn how many sports could be saved?
I just remember the Stanfod wrestling coach stating how many administrators and assistant ADs they had when wrestling and the other sports were dropped. I know that when I was coaching D1, we had more administrators than coaches. I do not have exact numbers, but it is silly when you look at the academic advisors, and fund raisers and facitliy coordinators, it gets pretty crazy. Especially since they all need a couple assistants.
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