Was Brody Brecht a Bigger Disappointment in Football or Baseball?

[IowasLaw]

Its like you have some kind of mental block. Those guys were highly regarded recruits. Brecht wasn't a disappointment because he wasn't even a highly regarded recruit. He was the 11th rated recruit in the state of Iowa for Chrissakes. Wasn't even in the top 100 of receivers and when he arrived he showed why. The guy couldn't even track a football in the air.

Check Arland Bruce's offer list and get back to me. Then check Tyrone Tracy's.

If, in your ultimate wisdom, they are examples of "highly regarded" while Brecht is lowly regarded, it's odd that Bruce's only other power 5 offer was Iowa State (he was interested in Neb and KSU, but neither offered yet both offered Brecht). Similarly, Tracy was a MAC running back recruit who's best offer aside from Iowa was lowly Indiana.

Despite the lack of offers for Bruce & Tracy, they both came in and made an immediate impact, far outperforming Brecht.

How's that "mental block" of yours coming along?

 

[mro1978]

baseball
disappointment is the norm with iowa's WRs

 

[jonesy5960]

Check Arland Bruce's offer list and get back to me. Then check Tyrone Tracy's.

If, in your ultimate wisdom, they are examples of "highly regarded" while Brecht is lowly regarded, it's odd that Bruce's only other power 5 offer was Iowa State (he was interested in Neb and KSU, but neither offered yet both offered Brecht). Similarly, Tracy was a MAC running back recruit who's best offer aside from Iowa was lowly Indiana.

Despite the lack of offers for Bruce & Tracy, they both came in and made an immediate impact, far outperforming Brecht.

How's that "mental block" of yours coming along?

Keep ignoring the actual ratings chief. 111 for his position (696 overall) isn't highly rated in anybody's book but keep pretending that it is. It's nonsense, but if it makes you feel better have at it.

 

[Rustys Dad]

I’m not going to knock a kid who had the talent to play two sports at the D1 level. I wish he would have stuck with football as he has the size and athleticism - unfortunately - we didn’t have a QB and offense to make use of his size.

 

[funnyfletcher]

 

[shanksit44]

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Much better. Nice game

 

[herkhatescy]

Hey IowaSlaw. How'd Brecth do today? Fool.

 

[RomanHawk]

Highly rated football prospect? By who? I don't think I'd call the 100th ranked wide receiver prospect highly rated. Just being tall doesn't mean you're Calvin Johnson, or Brandon Smith for that matter. He was as raw as you could get. Add to that the fact that Iowa has probably had the worst wide receiver production in all of FBS over the past several years and I'd hardly call Brecht a disappointment in football. He just looked like everyone else.

I saw one of his HS football games on TV. I wasn't impressed. Didn't see good speed, hands, or body control. I wouldn't have offered.

 

[sober_teacher]

I saw one of his HS football games on TV. I wasn't impressed. Didn't see good speed, hands, or body control. I wouldn't have offered.

so based on 1 game, you would determine whether or not to offer a scholarship? How would you know you didn't just catch a bad game?

 

[jonesy5960]

I saw one of his HS football games on TV. I wasn't impressed. Didn't see good speed, hands, or body control. I wouldn't have offered.

Don't tell OP that. According to him he was about as close to a can't miss prospect as you can get.

 

[blubberhawk]

Iowa has had numerous Pitchers improve under the same staff , BB from what i have seen in short clips has a problem repeating a very busy delivery, , I would simplify the delivery to try to minimize the 1st base fall off He shows which is a result of trying to get extra velocity . Some Guys it takes some time to get it thru their heads that 94 on the black is better than 99 in a hitters hot zone or 1 foot out of the strike zone which just stacks up un competitive pitches in a start leading to walks and high pitch counts.

Not the same pitching coach.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

Can't call him a disappointment in FB. Had he stayed with the sport, who knows what his stat line would look like.

Baseball is his sport. He's still highly touted with a great career ahead of him.

If he can’t show he can throw strikes, no team will waste 1st round money on him. Like most, he will have to ease back to try and gain command. While mid to upper 90’s is still highly in demand, there will be others who have proven they can work the strike zone.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Hey IowaSlaw. How'd Brecth do today? Fool.

slaw will most likely take credit for inspiring him to finally achieve

 

[hawkifann]

Closer type?

Come in, throw heat and try to shut the door?

Brody’s path isn’t particularly new and I doubt teams interested in him are writing him off as a starter yet. He lost a lot of developmental work to football through HS and his first two years at Iowa (though that also kept some miles off his arm).

You can’t teach his raw stuff and he’ll almost certainly still go in the first round (if he really falls, he could come back again for another year). The days he has command, he’s almost unhittable, but when he’s not locating fastball, nobody chases his nasty breaking stuff.

My best guess is that once he gets drafted, he’ll be assigned to complex league where his new team will look at all his pitches, work on some mechanical tweaks/grip changes, maybe introduce another pitch and then depending on what his workload winds up being this year, he may get assigned to an A-ball team or they may just have him do that kind work for a few weeks and shut him down with an offseason program.

 

[BioHawk]

Neither. Nobody expected Brecht to compete with Marvin Harrison Jr. for best wide receiver in the Big 10. His record would be a lot better in baseball if we didn't have a bunch of batting practice pitchers in the bullpen. I'm not even sure they would qualify for batting practice since none of them can throw strikes.

 

[IowasLaw]

Hey IowaSlaw. How'd Brecth do today? Fool.

Wow, a keyboard warrior feeling like a tough guy AFTER Brecht won his 1st game in 10 starts. lol Way to go out on a limb with that hot take (not surprisingly, Captain Hindsight didn't have the balls to reply to this thread until AFTER Brecht won his first game). Stick with your super accurate sports predictions made the day after games are played. You are, after all, a winner...and not the slightest bit obese.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Brody’s path isn’t particularly new and I doubt teams interested in him are writing him off as a starter yet. He lost a lot of developmental work to football through HS and his first two years at Iowa (though that also kept some miles off his arm).

You can’t teach his raw stuff and he’ll almost certainly still go in the first round (if he really falls, he could come back again for another year). The days he has command, he’s almost unhittable, but when he’s not locating fastball, nobody chases his nasty breaking stuff.

My best guess is that once he gets drafted, he’ll be assigned to complex league where his new team will look at all his pitches, work on some mechanical tweaks/grip changes, maybe introduce another pitch and then depending on what his workload winds up being this year, he may get assigned to an A-ball team or they may just have him do that kind work for a few weeks and shut him down with an offseason program.

Seems like a lot of work..........can we do that with all our offensive linemen for football so that we wouldn't be better off trotting out 5 cardboard cutouts of Brian Ferentz to scare off opposing defensive players next year?

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Wow, a keyboard warrior feeling like a tough guy AFTER Brecht won his 1st game in 10 starts. lol Way to go out on a limb with that hot take (not surprisingly, Captain Hindsight didn't have the balls to reply to this thread until AFTER Brecht won his first game). Stick with your super accurate sports predictions made the day after games are played. You are, after all, a winner...and not the slightest bit obese.

Still waiting on that Caitlin Clark shaming thread......

 

[herkhatescy]

Wow, a keyboard warrior feeling like a tough guy AFTER Brecht won his 1st game in 10 starts. lol Way to go out on a limb with that hot take (not surprisingly, Captain Hindsight didn't have the balls to reply to this thread until AFTER Brecht won his first game). Stick with your super accurate sports predictions made the day after games are played. You are, after all, a winner...and not the slightest bit obese.

**** You. Worthless piece of shit.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Brecht is #28 on MLB's draft prospect rankings.

I wish my baseball career had been that "disappointing."

 

[cmhawks99]

I am not arguing with you, as I really don't know how his mechanics are working. But I am flabbergasted that after 3 years in a D1 college program that there hasn't been marked improvement via coaching and repetition, etc.

This sounds very similar to a report a couple years back where the FB team announced that Spencer P was going to attend some sort of QB school in the summer to work on his mechanics. This after him being on the team for 3 or 4 years at that point.

Iowa athletic coaches are some of the most highly compensated public employees in the state...can they not, in 3+ years time, help otherwise gifted athletes learn basic technique? I don't get it, this would seem like a fundamental thing that would get nailed down in the first few weeks of practice...not be a big limiter after 3 years of competition.

Well I look at this in a different fashion, we are always quick to heap the blame on “coaches” with that said they are highly compensated so I guess it’s fair but here’s where I struggle with all the blame going there…

If it’s so obvious a “fan“ can see it and I’m not disagreeing there. I haven’t seen him play yet this year and only sparingly at that.

The more likely suggestion to me is, he isn’t taking to the teaching, he isn’t getting enough practice time due to limitations, he isn’t working on it on his own, or he doesn’t agree and isn’t accepting the teaching …

I learned something above that I’ve never heard before. In that he won’t go to a minor-league system right off the bat he’ll go to the training facility and work on his mechanics until they’re right…

Everyone forgets they have super limited time to practice in college. That’s what makes players like Caitlyn Clark so special…

She was still practicing 3 to 4 hours a day on her own in college….

We give these coaches way too much credit when they succeed and way too much blame when they fail, a lot more needs to go on the shoulders of the players.

Of course ultimately the coaches are “paid” but a baseball staff like Iowa, who I think is fairly well regarded surely isn’t closing their eyes on horrific mechanics on purpose…

Right…?

 

[aflachawk]

Honest question here about the highest touted two sport athlete to come through Iowa in the past twenty years.

FOOTBALL

Brecht came in as a highly rated 6'4, 210 lb WR prospect with offers from Kansas State, Nebraska, Iowa State, etc. He was expected to come in and make a difference right away on a roster that desperately lacked WR talent at WR. Unfortunately, after two years in the program, Brecht was perhaps best known for racking up a total of 0 yards after catch in his entire career...due to his strange habit of jumping and falling to make every catch, regardless of whether he was covered or not. It's almost like he received no coaching at all. Brecht finished his much anticipated Hawkeye football career with just 9 receptions and no touchdowns before giving it up to focus on what he hoped would be a lucrative baseball future.

BASEBALL

Brecht, with his 100+ mph fastball, was rumored to be a top draft MLB prospect coming out of high school. He is one of the highest ranked recruits ever to play baseball for Iowa's up and coming team. While he showed flashes in his first few years in the program, control was a major issue. Going into the 2024 season, however, Brecht was clocked throwing 103 mph and touted as a 1st round draft prospect in this year's MLB draft. With those kinds of accolades, he was a pre-season 1st team all-American (the nation's top pitcher) and was poised to have a breakout season. Well, we are 2/3 of the way through his final season. Surely the pre-season all American has been mowing down inferior college opponents, right? Nope. In 9 starts as Iowa's #1 pitcher, Brecht is just 0-2 with a 4.91 ERA. In 40 innings, he's given up a whopping 32 walks and 34 hits. No doubt he throws a mean fastball, but based off ERA, he's just the 7th best pitcher on Iowa's roster. More importantly, he's still waiting to notch his first win of the season vs mediocre college opponents.

To me, he was a bigger disappointment in football. The Hawks desperately needed a WR with size and he's been the only 6'4 guy out there since Brandon Smith (6'3) left in 2020.

To me, any athlete who puts on the Hawkeye uniform is never a disappointment. Posters who put down athletes, that a different story

 

[LukaDuka]

If he can’t show he can throw strikes, no team will waste 1st round money on him. Like most, he will have to ease back to try and gain command. While mid to upper 90’s is still highly in demand, there will be others who have proven they can work the strike zone.

care to make a wager? He's a first round pick.

 

[Old_wrestling_fan]

Well I look at this in a different fashion, we are always quick to heap the blame on “coaches” with that said they are highly compensated so I guess it’s fair but here’s where I struggle with all the blame going there…

If it’s so obvious a “fan“ can see it and I’m not disagreeing there. I haven’t seen him play yet this year and only sparingly at that.

The more likely suggestion to me is, he isn’t taking to the teaching, he isn’t getting enough practice time due to limitations, he isn’t working on it on his own, or he doesn’t agree and isn’t accepting the teaching …

I learned something above that I’ve never heard before. In that he won’t go to a minor-league system right off the bat he’ll go to the training facility and work on his mechanics until they’re right…

Everyone forgets they have super limited time to practice in college. That’s what makes players like Caitlyn Clark so special…

She was still practicing 3 to 4 hours a day on her own in college….

We give these coaches way too much credit when they succeed and way too much blame when they fail, a lot more needs to go on the shoulders of the players.

Of course ultimately the coaches are “paid” but a baseball staff like Iowa, who I think is fairly well regarded surely isn’t closing their eyes on horrific mechanics on purpose…

Right…?

Hmmm...maybe...but I know that they are in practice sessions of some sort most of the year and many of the players go play summer league ball after the Iowa season is done. I wouldn't think that lack of practice time would be a limiter.

I know Brody well enough to say that he is a fine young man, if he was the type to blow off coaching advice, that would seem out of character to me. That being said, I have never seen him during practice, so I can't be sure of anything really.

I guess if you dont' work on bad mechanics in practice then that just doesn't make sense to me...but what do I know?

 

[cmhawks99]

Well I look at this in a different fashion, we are always quick to heap the blame on “coaches” with that said they are highly compensated so I guess it’s fair but here’s where I struggle with all the blame going there…

Hmmm...maybe...but I know that they are in practice sessions of some sort most of the year and many of the players go play summer league ball after the Iowa season is done. I wouldn't think that lack of practice time would be a limiter.

I know Brody well enough to say that he is a fine young man, if he was the type to blow off coaching advice, that would seem out of character to me. That being said, I have never seen him during practice, so I can't be sure of anything really.

I guess if you dont' work on bad mechanics in practice then that just doesn't make sense to me...but what do I know?

It doesn’t make sense to me either. But I will stupidly add The polarizing Deacon Hill into the equation….

Right when he fumbled that ball, I want to say in the Minnesota game. I turned to my son and said why in the **** is he holding the ball at his waist?

I’m no coach, definitely no QB coach but it was my 1st immediate reaction. I can’t believe professional coaches aren’t noticing that.

Hell, I bet you dollars to donuts that somebody like Phil Parker, Kevin Bell, Seth Wallace are coaching their kids and literally watching out for just that action, so I am really struggling believing the coaches aren’t seeing it and trying to correct it…

I mean, right? Surely you understand what I’m saying?

 

[funnyfletcher]

 

[sober_teacher]

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So…since iowaslaw started this thread, Brecht has provided the two best starts of the season.

OP, can you start telling us how disappointing Morgan has been now?

 

[funnyfletcher]

Brody disappoints again today. His last 3 starts he's 3-0 (assuming they don't blow the 9-1 lead) 22.2 IP, 36 K, 9 BB, 5 H 1.19 ERA, 0.62 WHIP

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

OP's mom disappointed the hell out of me. But, then I remembered she paid me for the opportunity to provide services.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

Hey IowaSlaw. How'd Brecth do today? Fool.

Yeah, Iowaslaw gets it wrong, AGAIN ! Another great game by Brecht today. He threw a 2 hitter with 13 strikeouts . Hawks win 8-1 !

 

[hawkifann]

Yeah, Iowaslaw gets it wrong, AGAIN ! Another great game by Brecht today. He threw a 2 hitter with 13 strikeouts . Hawks win 8-1 !

He might have to get credit. His OP was basically right when the switch flipped.

 

[herkhatescy]

Yeah, Iowaslaw gets it wrong, AGAIN ! Another great game by Brecht today. He threw a 2 hitter with 13 strikeouts . Hawks win 8-1 !

Hell of a game today.

 

[paladinhawk]

He might have to get credit. His OP was basically right when the switch flipped.

No, no he doesn't.

 

[Stephen Hawk King]

Has Iowa Slaw been more disappointing as a fan or as a son?

 

[hawkjt]

BB was BIG pitcher of the week the last 2 weeks looking to make it 3 in a row w yesterday's stellar outing.
Could end up as POY in BIG.
Zooming up the draft boards as we speak..surefire 1st rounder...wow what bust BB is......lol.

 

[hawkifann]

BB was BIG pitcher of the week the last 2 weeks looking to make it 3 in a row w yesterday's stellar outing.
Could end up as POY in BIG.
Zooming up the draft boards as we speak..surefire 1st rounder...wow what bust BB is......lol.

I wouldn’t say he’s zooming up the draft boards. I don’t think he ever really fell out of the top 20. MLB draft is weird, too, because a team’s ability to sign a guy is such a big part of it.

 

[pistachio1999]

Has Iowa Slaw been more disappointing as a fan or as a son?

Better ask his wife, she may have a different direction.

 

[pistachio1999]

Brody disappoints again today. His last 3 starts he's 3-0 (assuming they don't blow the 9-1 lead) 22.2 IP, 36 K, 9 BB, 5 H 1.19 ERA, 0.62 WHIP

That's tuuuurrrrrrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[myteamcanbeatupyourteam]

This is almost as good as him saying Sam LaPorta wasn't going to have more than 5 receptions last year.

 

[sober_teacher]

This is almost as good as him saying Sam LaPorta wasn't going to have more than 5 receptions last year.

Anyone ever notice how he disappears from a thread after he gets exposed?