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Re: WBB recruiting: Schnedan's status

Hailey is worth the scholarship for her personality and sense of humor alone.
Who knows what will happen by the fall of 2016, but they do have options to guard the post, even if they don't add another recruit.
Players who have played , or could play, the post include Nicole Smith (a true post), Hailey Schneden (an all-state post in HS), Carly Mohns (played post in HS), Claire Till (played the back-up post at Iowa), Hannah Stewart (a strong inside player), Tagyn Larson (a 6-2 shot blocker), Chase Coley (played post in HS, listed as a F at Iowa), Megan Gustafson (6-4 listed as a P), Amanda Ollinger (an athletic 6-2), or even Kali Peschel (guarded the post on occasion due to foul trouble).
 
Re: WBB recruiting: Schnedan's status

Oakhawk is so very well informed about Bluder's program that I have to assume that his post on post possibilities in 2016 waws hasty. Till and Peschl will conclude their eligibility with the 2016 NCAA tournament. The Hawkeyes will have 14 players on schollie going into the 2016-17 season: two seniors, four juniors, four sophomores, and Ollinger, Cera, Meyer & Sevillian as incoming recruits. No way that both Smith & Schnaden could be kept on scholarships. Nicole Smith's eligtibility clock began when she enrolled at Iowa in August 2011, and the five years will have ended. Iowa could apply for a medical exemption to allow her a 6th year, but that seems unlikely to occur: she has a history of repeated knee injuries dating back to HS, when she misssed her entire sosphomore year, and if she plays this year and next will have been on the acvtive roster for four years at Iowa. It is not plausible that a forward with the immense potential of Ollinger would be misused as an undersize post. Carly Mohns would give up so much height against centers for the big time programs Iowa has to contend against if it is going to win the BT, let alone advance far in the NCAA tournaments. Hannah Stewart's best position is small forward, and while her versatility will enable her to play the 4 or even the 2, she is the eventual successor to Disterhoft. True, stringbean Chase Coley was listed at center in HS, but she performed more as a PG than a true post, all over the court--she plays facing the basket and she is a forward in her freshman year at Iowa. She may have to perform as the interim between Doolittle and Gustafson next year, but even then IMO the likelihood is that the more muscular Peschl will handle the post on defense.

That leaves Larson as a possible candidate to be the backup to Gustafson, but she also is slender & undersized to hold her own against bigger and/or stronger posts in the upper echelon of the BT and the perennial powers that the Hawkeyes will encounter in the NCAA tourney and major OOC games. Yes, Schneden has the physique if not the height to play center---but if you observed her game in HS or GTL summers, or infrequent time on the court last season, it is clear why she did not get recruited by high & mid-level majors even as a star for a championship HS team. Her reactions & moves are a bit too slow, and she lacks the agility and mobility to be an undersized inside player.

These are reasons enough why in an ideal future, given the limitless prospects that Gustafson, Coley, Ollinger, Stewart. Disterhoft, Kastanek, Sera, Meyer, Davis, Jennings etal give Bluder's team in the 2016-17, to be intrigued with the notion that adding another highly talented center would be the final piece to gaining national promience, a BT championship and even dreaming of the Final Four.

The identity of the player who gets the 16-24 minutes when Gustafson is not on the court in 2016-17 IS a big deal, and my guess is that Bluder & assistants believe this as well. So even though she prefers to have a squad of 12 or 13 players, and may want to keep walk-on Schneden on scholarship her senior year, IMO the indications that Bluder will continue to pursue a highly talented center in either the end-period of 2015 recruiting, or a top flight post transferring in, or to complete the 2016 recruiting class.

This post was edited on 10/15 4:14 PM by Tiggerhawk
 
Re: WBB recruiting: Schnedan's status


Concur Tiggerhawk, we will target an additional true post for the remaining scholarship.

LB has now loaded up the roster to be 2-3 deep at every position except for C.
 
Originally posted by 91hawki:
Kid,

I would guess another true post or perhaps the other Cedar Rapids girl. After next year, so in 2016, they would only have one true post player in Gustafen?? (sorry for the typo). Coley, Stewart, and Larson are 6'2 and bring some physicality to their game but we'll need another true post this year or next for the 2016 roster.

As Oak has mentioned before, we have room to give 1 more ride to give this year and/or 1-2 rides to hand out next year (counting Ollinger and Sellivan).

Next fall's roster:

2016
Till 6'0 F
Peschel 6'1 F
Smith 6'4" C

2017
Schnedan (non scholarship player) 6'2" F
Kastanek 5'10 G
Disterhoft 6'0 G

2018
Coley 6'3 F
Jennings 5'5 G
Buttenham 6'0 F
Mohns 6'1 F

2019
Davis 5'3 G
Stewart 6'2 F
Larson 6'2 F
Gustafen 6'3 C
2020
Sevillian 5'6" G
Meyer 5'10" G
Cera 5'10" G
Ollinger 6'2" F

OakHawk said on Sept 20:
As it stands now....they will lose 4 seniors
Next year's squad will have 3 SR, 3 JR, 4 SO, and 3 FR. 13 players
Then the following year has 3 SR, 4 JR, 3 SO, and 2 FR. 12 players.
So, they could still add 2 for next year, or 3 in two years, or some combination

Since Sept 20
Amanda Ollinger (2016) committed on Oct 1
Hannah Stewart (2015) committed on Oct 2
Breanna Cera (2016) committed on Oct 10
That's one more for next year (2015) and two more for the the following (2016) year
So for next year's squad they now have 4 FR. (class of 2019) 14 players (including Hailey Schenden)
Then the following year will also have 4 FR. (class of 2020) 15 Players (including Hailey Schenden)

I believe OakHawk is correct regarding Hailey. She was on scholarship last year and undoubtedly will be again this year. As for next year, I [like OakHawk] believe it is not likely Lisa would pull it, but it is possible that she could forfeit her last year of basketball to concentrate on her senior year studies. It is also possible that Iowa could lose someone else in the next year. However, as it currently stands, Iowa is finished with recruiting until 2017. (One more thing, Iowa could still honor Kathryn Reynold's scholarship next year, if they were so inclined, even if she doesn't participate on the team.)


This post was edited on 10/15 9:01 PM by cyberhawk
 
Re: WBB recruiting: Schnedan's status

A few points of clarification.....
I was talking about posts for 2015 and 2016, that is why I mentioned Smith and Schneden.
Iowa has 15 scholarships taken for 2016, if Hailey stays on scholarship. Which means they can't give another 2015 unless they know that someone isn't going to return.
An athletic 6-2 can guard a 6-5 with quickness and positioning. They just have yo beat them to spots and not let them post up to deep. Most 6-5 posts don't have a lot of ups.
Bethany Doolittle is a great example of what a quick, agile center cab do, even when out-weighed by 50 lbs.
If Hailey stays on scholarship they are essentially done with recruiting until 2017. Unless they could find a transfer that is immediately eligible for a single season.
I think Hannah Stewart will be a PF. She is a strong inside player. Her offense is mid-range and post-uo.
Tagyn Larson is quicker than she showed las year. She went through two injuries, including a bad ankle.
 
Re: WBB recruiting: Schnedan's status


Originally posted by 91hawki:

Concur Tiggerhawk, we will target an additional true post for the remaining scholarship.

LB has now loaded up the roster to be 2-3 deep at every position except for C.
It is true that Chase is not a true center, but Lisa is grooming her to replace Bethany at the center position. (Lisa prefers centers who are agile, mobile, athletic and can run the court. Megan is also a hybrid F/C not much different than Chase and will no doubt be the backup for her.)

Lisa did an radio interview yesterday (10/14/14) on KGYM (the Gym Class). Her interview begins at the 31:45 minute mark.

Quote: "We definitely need to get her [Chase] in to spell Beth this year because we need her to be taking over that role in the future."


This post was edited on 10/15 8:21 PM by cyberhawk

KGYM: The Gym Class
 
Re: WBB recruiting: Schnedan's status


Originally posted by oakhawk:
A few points of clarification.....
I was talking about posts for 2015 and 2016, that is why I mentioned Smith and Schneden.
Iowa has 15 scholarships taken for 2016, if Hailey stays on scholarship. Which means they can't give another 2015 unless they know that someone isn't going to return.
An athletic 6-2 can guard a 6-5 with quickness and positioning. They just have yo beat them to spots and not let them post up to deep. Most 6-5 posts don't have a lot of ups.
Bethany Doolittle is a great example of what a quick, agile center cab do, even when out-weighed by 50 lbs.
If Hailey stays on scholarship they are essentially done with recruiting until 2017. Unless they could find a transfer that is immediately eligible for a single season.
I think Hannah Stewart will be a PF. She is a strong inside player. Her offense is mid-range and post-uo.
Tagyn Larson is quicker than she showed last year. She went through two injuries, including a bad ankle.
I agree. IMO, she is a bit shorter but slightly quicker version of Megan. (I believe she could even play center 'in a pinch'.) Her mother [and HS coach] said that she is working to expand her shooting range to the perimeter, so hopefully she can be a 'stretch' 4. I doubt that she will ever play small forward with Tagyn in the same class (and Amanda coming in a year later) and she definitely will not play the 2 position with the guards (Mackenzie and Bre) that they will have.

Dietel sees Stewart as a stretch power forward. "Hannah has a baby hook, but she is not going to wow you with a plethora of post moves," Dietel said. "She is a face-up kid who will not be outworked. She has to continue to work on her perimeter shot, but she's a threat there right now."

Read the entire article here:

HANNAH STEWART'S LONG ROAD FROM UNKNOWN TO ALL THE RAGE TO IOWA


This post was edited on 10/28 8:16 PM by cyberhawk
 
Re: WBB recruiting: Schnedan's status

One correction to Tigger's post, Nicole Smith was in the same class as Till and Peschel. If she gets a redshirt for last season, she can play in 2016-2017 as a fifth-year senior. Although, I seem to remember she played a few games towards the end of last season, so I'm not sure if she can qualify for a redshirt.
 
Re: WBB recruiting: Schnedan's status

Originally posted by UpstreamHawkeye:
One correction to Tigger's post, Nicole Smith was in the same class as Till and Peschel. If she gets a redshirt for last season, she can play in 2016-2017 as a fifth-year senior. Although, I seem to remember she played a few games towards the end of last season, so I'm not sure if she can qualify for a redshirt.
Yes she did play only a couple of minutes in a game or two late in the season and that eliminated the possibility of a redshirt as I understand it. I have no idea why they played her, unless she only plans on being here 4 years anyway.
 
Re: WBB recruiting: Schnedan's status

Originally posted by BGHAWK:
Originally posted by UpstreamHawkeye:
One correction to Tigger's post, Nicole Smith was in the same class as Till and Peschel. If she gets a redshirt for last season, she can play in 2016-2017 as a fifth-year senior. Although, I seem to remember she played a few games towards the end of last season, so I'm not sure if she can qualify for a redshirt.
Yes she did play only a couple of minutes in a game or two late in the season and that eliminated the possibility of a redshirt as I understand it. I have no idea why they played her, unless she only plans on being here 4 years anyway.
Speaking of Nicole and injuries.....both Nicole and Melissa Dixon were in walking boots (and riding instead of walking) at the UI Homecoming parade last week.
 
Originally posted by cyberhawk:
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This post was edited on 10/13 5:47 PM by cyberhawk
that link says she committed to UW Green Bay
 
Pretty sure she re-opened her recruiting after verballing to UWGB once the other offers started coming in.
 
Yes, Bre gave a verbal to UWGB as a FR. She then reopened it after getting contacted by many other schools.
 
Re: WBB recruiting: Schnedan's status

Originally posted by cyberhawk:

It is true that Chase is not a true center, but Lisa is grooming her to replace Bethany at the center position. (Lisa prefers centers who are agile, mobile, athletic and can run the court. Megan is also a hybrid F/C not much different than Chase and will no doubt be the backup for her.)

Lisa did an radio interview yesterday (10/14/14) on KGYM (the Gym Class). Her interview begins at the 31:45 minute mark.

Quote: "We definitely need to get her [Chase] in to spell Beth this year because we need her to be taking over that role in the future."

Her are a few more quotes from Lisa in that radio interview on the Tuesday KGYM (the Gym Class)...

Whitney: "[She] can play the point guard or the off guard for us. She's got just another level of speed than anybody else on our team..."
Carly: "[...] power forward [...] she's been playing very well for us. She's a good rebounder, which we really need... she excels in that area. She's got a big strong body and can also shoot three's... She fits nicely into our system."
Christina: "[She] missed all summer because she was competing with the JR National Team in Canada, so she's a little behind because she's still learning."
Chase: "[...] six-three center. She's getting taken to school a little bit by Bethany..."

I mentioned these quotes from Lisa because I think they indicate what I have thought for a long while, which is that of all four newcomers, Carly has the best chance of starting in place of Theairra and play significant minutes.

This post was edited on 10/25 3:55 PM by cyberhawk
 
When Chase first committed to Iowa, her father was quoted as saying something to the effect that "she may need to play center for Iowa" and that "Chase was okay with that".
 
I think Chase will see minutes at forward and as a post. A lot depends on Nicole Smith's health.
 
Iowa WBB Freshman Classes

I had trouble keeping track, so I made this graphic. The stars (asterisks) are based on ESPN rankings from recruiting years.
IowaWBBFreshmanPrint_zpsba93ca7e.jpg
 
Re: Iowa WBB Freshman Classes

Just wondered if any of Lisa's kids go out for sports, including the son. Not really a recruiting question.
 
Re: Iowa WBB Freshman Classes

Welcome and congratulations rookie on your very first post and thank you for your contribution. I don't know how you did it but your graphic looks good. I appreciate your time and efforts.

I believe that Mackenzie and Tagyn will be three stars before they arrive. (But they are all already four and five stars in my mind.)



This post was edited on 10/20 5:21 PM by cyberhawk
 
Re: Iowa WBB Freshman Classes

Thanks, cyberhawk. I actually just made the graphic in a word table, then turned in into a jpg. I love that this site honors both the Iowa men's and women's basketball teams. I used the ESPN rankings out of convenience, but they certainly are not the definitive answer.

Jim Calkins
Iowa City
 
Re: Iowa WBB Freshman Classes

What's a .jpg? ;-) Only joking, but it still sounds technical.

By my guesstimate, there are several hundred loyal Iowa WBB fans on this forum. This forum is about all we have but it is what we make it to be which I believe is 'pretty darn good' and it really seems to be getting even greater thanks to members like you.

Also, I agree with you about the player [and class] rankings in general, not just ESPNW. There are a number of ranking services and if there is one constant, it is that there is a lot of variability in opinion between them, which proves very little. The singular usefulness might be that you can compare classes in different years of the same school but not classes in the same year of different schools. I believe that because Iowa recruits players that are more team oriented and don't necessarily pad their stats (especially scoring which seems to be the number one factor of these rankings). The other thing is that there is always the so-called intangible factors (attitude, coach-ability, selflessness, IQ and etc), which by their very subjective nature are very difficult to measure, but Lisa has a 'good eye' for players with positive intangibles.


This post was edited on 10/20 5:10 PM by cyberhawk
 
Originally posted by oakhawk:
I think Chase will see minutes at forward and as a post.
Originally posted by oakhawk:
I think Chase will see minutes at forward and as a post. A lot depends on Nicole Smith's health.
Yes, as well as her conditioning. The rest will depend on the performances of the other three candidates for that position; Kali, Claire, and Carly.

I would also add that Lisa does not 'pigeon-hole' players roles according to the position that they are assigned, but rather according to the opponent and the specific match-ups. In Chase's case, she may be the assigned center, but her role (at least offensively) may still be more like that of a forward.
 
Originally posted by ynglbc:
Did you ask Bluder if that is how she operates.
Fair question. It my interpretation of the following quote from Lisa.

"That's the beauty of our offense; we run a continuity offense, and we don't need to have the best number one, two, or three out there. In numbers, we have the five best basketball players on the court. That's what I love about our system. We can have three point guards, or we can have three power forwards, and it doesn't matter. It lets players go out there and really contribute and not be pigeon-holed to a specific number[/I]."

There is also this indisputable quote...

"Chase (Coley) will definitely be a part of the action because [/I]we have to prepare her for next year when she will be in that starting position at the five for us[/B]."[/I]

So what do you think? Is it a fair interpretation?

Read the entire interview here:

All-time winningest coach in program history enters her 15th season at the helm of UI program


This post was edited on 10/20 6:28 PM by cyberhawk
 
Re: Iowa WBB Freshman Classes

Buttenham is only a 3-star? I thought she'd be ranked higher than that. Perhaps it's because she's Canadian.

Dixon was also a 3-star? And she was initially a walk-on!

This post was edited on 10/20 9:31 PM by UpstreamHawkeye
 
Re: Iowa WBB Freshman Classes

Melissa was originally going to walk on for a year, but then they decided they needed her to play and put her on scholarshp early.
Christina didn't play n many AAU tournaments. That is where much of the star rankings come from. I saw one recruiting site that said if more people had seen her she would be a top 100 player.She played well in Colorado Springs
As far as the Iowa system of play, if they have the shooters they will play three guards. The small forward can be a wing guard, the power forward can be small forward, the post can be a power forward. Whatever the situation calls for.
Chase has more of a shooting range than Megan Gustafson (from what I have observed), so when both are here I would guess that Megan would be the post and Chase a forward.As Lisa says , they would like to have their best five players on the floor if possible. So maybe they would both be on the floor, or maybe they would share the post.
 
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Christina didn't play n many AAU tournaments. That is where much of the star rankings come from.[/B]

Could the same be said about Mackenzie Meyer? I don't understand why she isn't ranked.
 
Re: Iowa WBB Freshman Classes

Originally posted by IamHawkeye:
Just wondered if any of Lisa's kids go out for sports, including the son. Not really a recruiting question.
Her oldest daughter, Hannah, plays basketball at Solon HS and is a decent player. Not sure about the other two.
 
Re: Iowa WBB Freshman Classes

David, her son, also plays basketball. Emma is the actress of the family.
 
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I think Makenzie Meyer will be ranked after they see her this fall. She has put in a lot of work and should have a big junior year.
 
Re: Iowa WBB Freshman Classes

Here is a link to the live stream that Lisa did last night for On Iowa live at KCRG 9.2
She mentions that because of the "Continuity Offense" that they run Sam and Whitney could be on the floor at the same time.
Carly Mohns is playing really well at PF and could slip over to the post for some minutes because of her rebounding.
Chase will back up the post but needs to get stronger and learn.
Says with the Continuity Offense they like to have a PG and a Post but the other 3 positions can be any combination.

On Iowa Live
 
Originally posted by oakhawk:
Here is a link to the live stream that Lisa did last night for On Iowa live at KCRG 9.2
  She mentions that because of the "Continuity Offense" that they run Sam and Whitney could be on the floor at the same time.
 Carly Mohns is playing really well at PF and could slip over to the post for some minutes because of her rebounding.
Chase will back up the post but needs to get stronger and learn.
 Says with the Continuity Offense they like to have a PG and a Post but the other 3 positions can be any combination.

Link: On Iowa Live[/URL]
In Lisa's first decade here, she was fairly rigid about using two players, starter and backup, for each position. The minutes for each pair would almost always add up to 40. She's become more flexible in the past 4-5 years and that's a good thing.
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chase can certainly play a high post on offense

the issue will be on defense- she isn't strong enough right know (nor do i see it really changing) to guard a strong post down low.
 
I thought that Morgan Johnson wasn't sturdy enough to play post.
I thought that Bethany Doolittle wasn't sturdy enough to play post.
I have learned my lesson.
I think that Chase Coley will be able to play post if called on.

On the other hand, I really liked seeing Johnson and Doolittle on the floor together two years ago. Maybe we will see some twin towers again this year.
This post was edited on 10/21 3:06 PM by conn53victor
 
I can see Chase playing the high post on offense and the offball post defender (help and block shots) with Mohns, Gustofason, & Stewart guarding the opponents more physical player in the coming years.
 
It is easier in the women's game for a quick , athletic post like Beth to defend a taller player, or a much heavier player. The 6-5 or 6-6 post usually doesn't have much vertical. So a couple of inches don't matter much. The more likely problem is a player having 40 to 50 pounds advantage being allowed to push their way close to the hoop. Beth is very good at timing the shot and getting the block.Iowa also helps in the post to keep the player from turning.They just have to be ready to get out on the shooter if the opponent kicks it back out.Chase is a good shot blocker. So are Megan Gustafson, Tagyn Laeson, Hannah Stewart, and Amanda Ollinger. The biggest threat will be a player like Jessica Davenport or Jantel Lavender, posts that are good at the short jumpers or banks shots, 6-5 with long arms.. Iowa should be okay through the 2016 class, but it would be nice f they could get a 6-5 or 6-6 post of their own. Especially one that can run the floor and rebound to keep the up-tempo game going. There are a couple really good ones in their recruiting area, but I have no idea of any interest. . Players like this will be pursued by the usual suspects. If Iowa has a couple of really good years.......
 
Where did all these WBB fans come from!?!
I look forward to an active board when the season begins!
 
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