That's crazy to me. What the hell?
WBB Transfer Portal Targets 2025-2026
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Really shows how much losing a locker room can set back a program.
Miles was vague-posting some things today about how catholics will be nice to you and then not accept who you are. Likely alluding to her homosexuality.
Also earlier this year Hidalgo was sharing some thinly veiled homophobic posts on social media.
I won't only because I think this was inevitable based on the timing of her injury. It's why I said I would be inherently unbothered if Skim Mulkey rumor was accurate. Her injury limited her playing time, usage, and on-court success. Can't change the recovery process and she received better medical treatment here than 99% of her other offers. Still, those results were unsatisfactory to some. So, AG experienced internal or external pressure to move on. Her team wouldn't have changed any of those factors. In fact, her results likely would have been worse had she gone elsewhere. Thus, preordained to transfer.
Whether she takes a big step quickly after getting to 100% physically, or incrementally improves over 1 or 2 years, hopefully, the meddling parties will learn their lesson, for her sake. I certainly don't know what else Jan & Co. could have done.
Brandon Clay says Iowa WBB in contact with Tonie Morgan. B1G physique and seems to be able to penetrate while staying under control. I like the stats and film; 1 year left.
This is looking way ahead, but if she somehow became a Hawk maybe a help with Kate Harpring recruiting?
Morgan is the most interesting Iowa target I’ve heard about so far.
14 assist game is impressive even if its against a crappy Clemson but GT wasn't a lot better from a conference record standpoint. GT played NC State tough in conference tournament so maybe they were better than the record indicated. The 21/11/5 against NC State is notable as is 19 points 7 assists against Duke. 5'9. You're definitely right about that.
Also, seems like the Iowa staff has either a budding relationship or a previously established relationship with Brandon Clay. I don't know how far back other than the last 1/2 years he has been involved in the WBB scene.
This year: 5.6 assists/game vs 2.3 turnovers/game. Lucy was 5.1 : 3.1. Last year CC was 8.9 : 4.7. Her percentage is better than both.
If percentages really meant that much, than Monica is better shooter than every Naismith player of the year….and ever All American by any source….and every first round draft choice in the WNBA.
Context matters.
Tonie Morgan's advanced stats are insane. Yes. Please.
Agree with that so far. Just did a very quick eyeball just to see if she's worth more research. Got a thumbs up on that.
Liked her:
AST/TO ratio of 2.42. That works.
76 TO in 33 games = 2.3/pg That's basically 1.15 per half. Can live with that.
184 AST in 33 games = 5.6/pg Acceptable, I'll take it.
Her defensive #'s look right around Kylie. That's good news.
~50% from inside the arc.
Biggest bug is 3pt% @ ~25%.
Think the main thing is she's a ball handler and a controlled passer with the low TOs. Can penetrate with modest scoring inside the arc.
Just on a surface look it's not a big dropoff from Lucy. Looks like it would get us the ball control stability we need to bring the ball up the court effectively and to break presses. Think someone said Deal did a pretty good job breaking the press in a McDAAG scrimmage as well. We''l see how she does in the actual game.
Would think this is not a huge all out bidding war for her. Heck they may try to bring in 3 players now with Guyton exiting. If they get her for a reasonable price tag, it might also allow us to land a big fish for the second player.
Will spend more time later doing a compare between Lucy O, Jada Williams and Tonie Morgan to see what shakes out between them with a new analysis and scoring spreadsheet I'm working on and tweaking.
Context does matter, but assist:turnover is about a million times more context-proof than field goal percentage is.
???? I'm a big proponent of context, but I can't see how it applies in this case.
Assist/turnover ratio by players playing the same position in Power 4 conferences.
Maybe I'm stupid but I don't understand....
First this is no comment on Tonie Morgan.
A 1.9 assist to turnover to a 2.0. For her best year compared to Caitlin’s 2nd best year.
Stars are great..you can make them say anything you want.
I am sure she is a fantastic player…will have no problem rooting for her if given the opportunity… but cherry picking stats to make a point makes no sense.
Want to go career? 4.9 assists a game with 3.2 turnovers a game for Tonie.
And all of that doesn’t change that stats like this are completely overrated.
Completely different styles of play. Someone like Caitlin is going to have turnovers…the greatest playmakers tend to have the most turnovers.
Just not sure why the hang up on one stat, other than it was the only one you could find that for one of three years, she was better than Caitlin and Lucy.
Again no disrespect to Tonie…you were comparing her to an All American and a person with a couple of Naismith’s and locked in on one stat, and that one stat only works if you pick the right year for the different players.
Honestly I am not sure if Jan ever actually offered her, As we all know there are numerous rumors that fly around, I have read a few different posters say that after the visit it was determined she may not be a good culture fit, Have no idea if she felt that way or the Iowa staff felt that way or if that is even true.
You cannot make stats say whatever you want. That is something an ignorant person says. Stats only say one thing. The key is to understanding exactly what they say. And this particular stat does take into account style of play.
Consider it a cost/benefit analysis between how many risks they take and how frequently those risks pay off. There are certainly some slight tweaks that would need to be made for an apples to apples comparison, but it does a decent job of measuring risk/reward success for both the conservative and the freewheeling point guard.
Your suggestion of cherry picking stats is incorrect; the only reason assist/turnovers was cited is that I was responding to hawk2212's post #570 where her poor 3pt% and >3 TO's/game are pointed out. I think, for a point guard, assists/to's is more important than total to's because it reflects the risk/reward ability of the player like you pointed out with Caitlin. I wasn't cherry picking one player's best year vs another's worst: my logic was to compare her most recent season to Iowa's two most recent point guards, period.
What's encouraging about this one stat, which is really important for a point guard, is that her numbers have improved each of her three years, playing at the same school for the same coach. Freshman: 3.8/3.3, soph 5.2/3.8, junior 5.6/2.3. That trend is encouraging.
Please don't make assumptions about my posts: "it was the only one you could find that for one of three years, she was better than Caitlin and Lucy." Just pointing out she's similar in that statistic. I'm happy to compare her poorer 3pt and FT % to them as well. No suggestion that she's a better overall player than those two.
Yeah typical hard to get players to Iowa...Olsen was the get but seems like nobody else good wants to come play for Iowa for some reason or another..................
She signed after the championship game. We still have a ways to go before that time. We will get bodies. We have too
Yeah problem there bodies won't help....they need good ones and that seems to be the problem
Theirs plenty of good players still out their if that makes u feel better.
There's a lot to like about Morgan, but I can't help but worry adding her would lead to a lot of pack the paint defense by the opposition next year.
If Morgan played significant minutes with Feuerbach, Stuelke, and Heiden that would be 4 of 5 players on the floor that are sub-30% three-point shooters. Obviously Iowa would try to improve shooting with the first three, but hoping for drastic improvement so late in their careers is a tough ask.
If Morgan played significant minutes with Feuerbach, Stuelke, and Heiden that would be 4 of 5 players on the floor that are sub-30% three-point shooters. Obviously Iowa would try to improve shooting with the first three, but hoping for drastic improvement so late in their careers is a tough ask.
Very reasonable. Do you think those concerns would be outweighed by the positives of a faster, full court playing style that she would help unlock?
Thinking about her, Heiden, Deal, Stremlow (if she continues to improve in passing/ball control), and HS in different line-up permutations. Hell, throw in KF too because she has the athleticism and just needs to needs to polish her finishing ability to be more dangerous on the receiving end.
I think it very well could. It's not all that hard to limit fast break opportunities (at least so long as Clark isn't on the team trying to run them). You just have to commit to getting players back, which means sacrificing some offensive rebounding.
In many cases that tradeoff doesn't make sense. Teams usually aren't significantly better at fast breaks vs. the half court, so limiting your offensive rebounding to take away the fast break isn't worth it.
But if Iowa ends up really bad in half court sets because it lacks three-point shooting and teams pack the paint, we could also see opponents try to take away the fast break. The tradeoff would make sense to put Iowa in worse positions offensively.
The fastbreak-heavy approach would also be really susceptible to good offenses. You don't get great fast break opportunities unless you get stops. That was a problem for early Clark teams when the defense wasn't good enough. They didn't get enough fast breaks to keep pace with really good opponents.
Iowa State must of given her the money she thought she was worth. Just a guess
As someone noted earlier, T.Morgan was on par with KF as a defender, which would tie back to your point about defense and full court offensive.
Back to the rebounding. I was a little shocked when I saw our offensive rebounding % was 165th. 17th in defensive% and 32nd overall. Not sure if we played a significantly higher volume of games against fast paced teams compared to average, which as you said would impact that Oreb%. USC, MSU, Ohio State, Tennessee, Murray State, Oklahoma, Penn State, Michigan. Woof.
Without knowing the full roster I would think those numbers would only improve with triple H at 5 and HS hypothetically more at 4 and a faster/more athletic roster, which is where my original thought of going more fast break originated. Not sure how much our rebounding would have to change, or fast break points would have to improve, for it to begin to alter an opposing coach's strategy in that trade-off you mentioned.
Got beat out by ISU.....lol there are just certain type of players who won't come to Iowa and Iowa needs to figure out why and fix the issues.
Do we know if Jan & Co formally offered?
If they did, then without knowing the NIL offer in comparison to the other suitors, I don't think you can conclude we "lost" her. Like in any job interview, words are cheap and maybe JanCo offered a lower sum that would require walking-the-walk as far as team culture buy-in goes.
If they did, then without knowing the NIL offer in comparison to the other suitors, I don't think you can conclude we "lost" her. Like in any job interview, words are cheap and maybe JanCo offered a lower sum that would require walking-the-walk as far as team culture buy-in goes.
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