What does Patrick bring?

[StinkyMcFadden]

He's the worst defender I've ever seen
He's the worst rebounder I've ever seen.
He's the least physical player I've ever seen.

He chooses this and there's never a consequence for it.

He just kind of wanders around the court watching basketball.

You can't have a player on the court with his mentality and complete lack of intensity.

 

[GunnerHawk]

I don't want to pile on the young man, but there is nothing I can argue with in your post. Unfortunately Fran empowers that type of play by allowing him to play 30 minutes a game.

While we are at it, Sandfort, needs to focus more. Too many TO's and seems to shoot sometimes without getting his feet set. Payton does go to the boards but doesn't defend that well.

Our team needs to watch an old Bobby Knight defensive drill, bend your knees and shuffle your feet - left or right. Never give up the baseline. Get at least one hand up at all times. Get out and guard the perimeter. Perkins use to be a stellar defender, but even he has digressed.

I was happy to hear Fran talk about our poor defensive play after the game. This team needs to get more aggressive, period.

 

[Slim45]

I don't want to pile on the young man, but there is nothing I can argue with in your post. Unfortunately Fran empowers that type of play by allowing him to play 30 minutes a game.

While we are at it, Sandfort, needs to focus more. Too many TO's and seems to shoot sometimes without getting his feet set. Payton does go to the boards but doesn't defend that well.

Our team needs to watch an old Bobby Knight defensive drill, bend your knees and shuffle your feet - left or right. Never give up the baseline. Get at least one hand up at all times. Get out and guard the perimeter. Perkins use to be a stellar defender, but even he has digressed.

I was happy to hear Fran talk about our poor defensive play after the game. This team needs to get more aggressive, period.

Sandfort has a hard time defending because he’s always playing well out of position thanks to fran insisting on playing a huge lineup. He’s a stretch 4, not a 3 and certainly not a 2! And if you think anything will change with the defense just because fran mentioned it, well sorry to spoil it for you, it’s not going to. Maybe for a game or 2 it looks better, but rest assured it will return to the dogshit we’ve gotten used to!

 

[ObeseMuffins]

The pieces are there for a well balanced team.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

OP is using a lot of hyperbole in his rant - but his point that PMac's production per minutes played is not very good is true. Aside from a couple of sparkling plays and an occasional 3, he's not making a real difference when he's on the court.

His per 40 minute stats, after taking out the guys that don't play much (top 10 guys)

5th in scoring
7th in rebounding
7th in assists
2nd in fewest TO's
6th in FT%
4th in FG%
3rd in Blks

It's not like he doesn't deserve playing time, but he's 3rd in minutes played. For a senior at 6' 9" he should be more productive.

 

[ButtersHawk]

OP is using a lot of hyperbole in his rant - but his point that PMac's production per minutes played is not very good is true. Aside from a couple of sparkling plays and an occasional 3, he's not making a real difference when he's on the court.

His per 40 minute stats, after taking out the guys that don't play much (top 10 guys)

5th in scoring
7th in rebounding
7th in assists
2nd in fewest TO's
6th in FT%
4th in FG%
3rd in Blks

It's not like he doesn't deserve playing time, but he's 3rd in minutes played. For a senior at 6' 9" he should be more productive.

3rd in blocks can't be right

 

[skydog0784]

He’s made these significant contributions to the team (stats compiled courtesy of Legend and excludes last game I believe, regardless it accentuates several points above)…

310 Minutes played
1 Offensive Rebound
3 Fouls

Items of note:
All 3 of his fouls have resulted in a 3PT play by the opposing team.
Last foul committed: November 14th versus Creighton.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

3rd in blocks can't be right

Well, the stats may not be right, but that's what they say.

Freeman is the only guy consistently blocking shots at 4.6 per 40 minutes. Next is Perk with .7, then PMac and Sandfort at .6.

Not a shot blocking machine, but neither is the team.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

He’s made these significant contributions to the team (stats compiled courtesy of Legend and excludes last game I believe, regardless it accentuates several points above)…

310 Minutes played
1 Offensive Rebound
3 Fouls

Items of note:
All 3 of his fouls have resulted in a 3PT play by the opposing team.
Last foul committed: November 14th versus Creighton.

Those are some astonishing stats!

 

[Legs94]

I’ve said it before. Bring him off the bench, if he’s hitting 3s and playing with some energy, let him play a little longer. But if it’s the usual low energy Pat, sit him down for the rest of the game.

 

[Capital1Hawk]

I don't want to pile on the young man, but there is nothing I can argue with in your post. Unfortunately Fran empowers that type of play by allowing him to play 30 minutes a game.

While we are at it, Sandfort, needs to focus more. Too many TO's and seems to shoot sometimes without getting his feet set. Payton does go to the boards but doesn't defend that well.

Our team needs to watch an old Bobby Knight defensive drill, bend your knees and shuffle your feet - left or right. Never give up the baseline. Get at least one hand up at all times. Get out and guard the perimeter. Perkins use to be a stellar defender, but even he has digressed.

I was happy to hear Fran talk about our poor defensive play after the game. This team needs to get more aggressive, period.

Have to presume Fran lays off him compared to the others. Would be hard to separate father/coach for his kid that has been through so much. He didn't have to bring out that fight in Connor. Last year with him so it is what it is... Drives me nuts watching him play.

 

[ddeanHawk]

This thread is going to make Margaret angry, very angry

 

[LukaDuka]

He's the worst defender I've ever seen
He's the worst rebounder I've ever seen.
He's the least physical player I've ever seen.

He chooses this and there's never a consequence for it.

He just kind of wanders around the court watching basketball.

You can't have a player on the court with his mentality and complete lack of intensity.

could he play on the women's team & contribute? asking for a friend.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

And to think he was coming off the bench ahead of a really good player and starting ahead of another one. I’m so tired of nepotism at UI. Thank God it will be all over with after this bball season.

 

[GoB1G]

From the few games I’ve seen this year, he’ll make some occasional shots, but he mostly just seems to prance around with his mouth open.

 

[GunnerHawk]

Well, the stats may not be right, but that's what they say.

Freeman is the only guy consistently blocking shots at 4.6 per 40 minutes. Next is Perk with .7, then PMac and Sandfort at .6.

Not a shot blocking machine, but neither is the team.

Krikke is no Rebracca. Really miss his rebounding and toughness. Freeman has looked good and plays with energy, future looks bright.

 

[sm_hawkeye]

Sandfort has a hard time defending because he’s always playing well out of position thanks to fran insisting on playing a huge lineup. He’s a stretch 4, not a 3 and certainly not a 2! And if you think anything will change with the defense just because fran mentioned it, well sorry to spoil it for you, it’s not going to. Maybe for a game or 2 it looks better, but rest assured it will return to the dogshit we’ve gotten used to!

He is not a good defender in the paint either

 

[TheGuy9]

He's the worst defender I've ever seen
He's the worst rebounder I've ever seen.
He's the least physical player I've ever seen.

He chooses this and there's never a consequence for it.

He just kind of wanders around the court watching basketball.

You can't have a player on the court with his mentality and complete lack of intensity.

Wow the hyperbole is flowing. Apparently objectivity isn't a word or a concept that you are familiar with. This season, Iowa has played against teams that have players that have been worse defenders, rebounders, and less physical players. I'm willing to bet he isn't even the worst on Iowa's team, and if you watch Iowa's games you've seen Mulvey play.
Lastly since you used the term "ever seen", are you really saying that he is worse than a 10-year-old girl, playing her first competative game?
I'm not a Patrick fan, but I don't let my dislike of the way someone plays lead me to making unfounded statements that can be disproved in seconds. It's language like yours that creates division and distrust.

 

[IamHawkeye]

He's the worst defender I've ever seen
He's the worst rebounder I've ever seen.
He's the least physical player I've ever seen.

He chooses this and there's never a consequence for it.

He just kind of wanders around the court watching basketball.

You can't have a player on the court with his mentality and complete lack of intensity.

You can make your point without those "ever seens" Maybe you mean for his height? For his time on the court? C'mon you must have something to add that defines those words (besides being the coach's son).

 

[LukaDuka]

Krikke is no Rebracca. Really miss his rebounding and toughness. Freeman has looked good and plays with energy, future looks bright.

They're different players. Rebracca wasn't a scorer, Krikke is. Fran loves scorers. Krikke plays with energy, just is undersized. I'd love to see Brauns play 3-4 minutes per half to bring his hustle and toughness and pound on some of the opponents. Give Krikke & Freeman a little more rest.

 

[WestCoastHawkI]

They're different players. Rebracca wasn't a scorer, Krikke is. Fran loves scorers. Krikke plays with energy, just is undersized. I'd love to see Brauns play 3-4 minutes per half to bring his hustle and toughness and pound on some of the opponents. Give Krikke & Freeman a little more rest.

Brauns is intriguing. Can he just not shoot? The dude is a dunking machine.

 

[DewHawk]

He's the worst defender I've ever seen
He's the worst rebounder I've ever seen.
He's the least physical player I've ever seen.

He chooses this and there's never a consequence for it.

He just kind of wanders around the court watching basketball.

You can't have a player on the court with his mentality and complete lack of intensity.

I agree and have for his entire career. Dad sacrifices team success so son can be on the floor. lack of integrity by father. JMO

 

[Fall_is_4_Rudy]

The 3 fouls on the year is just an astonishing stat to me. Just a lot of wrong with that from a 6' 9" kid playing 26 minutes + a game through 12 games. Occasional over the back, Hard foul in the post to stop an easy basket Arm bar defending a drive... An aggressive player would have one or two of those a game. To be a good defender you need to live on the edge of to much contact with the refs.

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

You can make your point without those "ever seens" Maybe you mean for his height? For his time on the court? C'mon you must have something to add that defines those words (besides being the coach's son).

He's the worst at all of those things that I've ever seen.

Just sauntering about. Maybe yelling, "Get it!" while watching others fight for rebounds as he stands around the arc.

.3 fouls per game. LOLOLOLOL!!!!

That's a guy getting after it on the defensive end. He hasn't averaged even one foul a game in the last 4 years.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

He's the worst at all of those things that I've ever seen.

Just sauntering about. Maybe yelling, "Get it!" while watching others fight for rebounds as he stands around the arc.

Waiting for the throw out three pointer or releasing down court to chuck up a wild three or possible lay up/dunk. Guy is the definition of soft and other teams attack that type of play. Look at what Iowa State did to Iowa. They knew he didn’t want any part of that type of play. Michigan too. It’s going to be a long B1G season because teams are going to go after him every game. And he won’t fight it, just give up easy baskets every time with his oulay defense yet Daddy keeps him out there.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

I’ve said it before. Bring him off the bench, if he’s hitting 3s and playing with some energy, let him play a little longer. But if it’s the usual low energy Pat, sit him down for the rest of the game.

Yes no reason he should be starting. Perkins is better suited for the 2 spot and have Bowen/Harding one start as a true PG. With our starters now a big lineup that can’t guard other teams backcourt with sandfort/Patrick as the other G. Other complaint is for guy the age of a 6th yr sr pmac demeanor on the floor is awful when things aren’t going his way. Pouts and sulks way too much.

Thing is Fran won’t because he’s too biased. All you need to do is look at big 10 tourney game last. Uhlis gets dinged up opening min of the game. Does Fran put in guy just voted 6th man of the year sandfort? Nope he brings in Patrick instead.

 

[Slim45]

He is not a good defender in the paint either

no shit. And 4’s rarely play in the paint in todays game.

 

[icwesthawk]

Unfortunately for him and the team, Patrick is bringing lethargy and sadness

 

[Steamboat529529]

Wow the hyperbole is flowing. Apparently objectivity isn't a word or a concept that you are familiar with. This season, Iowa has played against teams that have players that have been worse defenders, rebounders, and less physical players. I'm willing to bet he isn't even the worst on Iowa's team, and if you watch Iowa's games you've seen Mulvey play.
Lastly since you used the term "ever seen", are you really saying that he is worse than a 10-year-old girl, playing her first competative game?
I'm not a Patrick fan, but I don't let my dislike of the way someone plays lead me to making unfounded statements that can be disproved in seconds. It's language like yours that creates division and distrust.

Mulvey getting 30 minutes a game?

 

[icwesthawk]

Wow the hyperbole is flowing. Apparently objectivity isn't a word or a concept that you are familiar with. This season, Iowa has played against teams that have players that have been worse defenders, rebounders, and less physical players. I'm willing to bet he isn't even the worst on Iowa's team, and if you watch Iowa's games you've seen Mulvey play.
Lastly since you used the term "ever seen", are you really saying that he is worse than a 10-year-old girl, playing her first competative game?
I'm not a Patrick fan, but I don't let my dislike of the way someone plays lead me to making unfounded statements that can be disproved in seconds. It's language like yours that creates division and distrust.

Mulvey doesn't play, redshirting, just so you know. When he was not redshirting, he played very sparingly, if at all. Patrick has started almost his whole career. He's had cancer and depression, terrible illnesses that I think we all hope he overcomes. The issue is that he's on the court far too much. Almost everyone sees it except you and the head coach

 

[RocknRollface]

I don't want to pile on the young man, but there is nothing I can argue with in your post. Unfortunately Fran empowers that type of play by allowing him to play 30 minutes a game.

While we are at it, Sandfort, needs to focus more. Too many TO's and seems to shoot sometimes without getting his feet set. Payton does go to the boards but doesn't defend that well.

Our team needs to watch an old Bobby Knight defensive drill, bend your knees and shuffle your feet - left or right. Never give up the baseline. Get at least one hand up at all times. Get out and guard the perimeter. Perkins use to be a stellar defender, but even he has digressed.

I was happy to hear Fran talk about our poor defensive play after the game. This team needs to get more aggressive, period.

I'd be shocked if they ever do actual defensive drills in practice.

 

[RocknRollface]

Sandfort has a hard time defending because he’s always playing well out of position thanks to fran insisting on playing a huge lineup. He’s a stretch 4, not a 3 and certainly not a 2! And if you think anything will change with the defense just because fran mentioned it, well sorry to spoil it for you, it’s not going to. Maybe for a game or 2 it looks better, but rest assured it will return to the dogshit we’ve gotten used to!

Yep, the only thing that changes with Iowas D is the effort goes up and down.

But the fundamentals are never there.

 

[Iafootballfan]

Patrick is 8th in player efficiency rating but plays the 3rd most minutes, that’s an issue.

 

[RocknRollface]

And to think he was coming off the bench ahead of a really good player and starting ahead of another one. I’m so tired of nepotism at UI. Thank God it will be all over with after this bball season.

We hope. It could potentially continue for 4 more years.

 

[RocknRollface]

They're different players. Rebracca wasn't a scorer, Krikke is. Fran loves scorers. Krikke plays with energy, just is undersized. I'd love to see Brauns play 3-4 minutes per half to bring his hustle and toughness and pound on some of the opponents. Give Krikke & Freeman a little more rest.

Krikke is a bigger Patrick on defense. Similar mindset. Neither one is really undersized they're just under aggressive and under competitive.

I agree I would like to see more Brauns. He's the complete opposite of what Fran likes though, no offensive skill just effort and athleticism.

 

[RocknRollface]

Brauns is intriguing. Can he just not shoot? The dude is a dunking machine.

No, he rebounds defends and dunks.

 

[Buffalo43]

I'd be shocked if they ever do actual defensive drills in practice.

And rebounding drills

 

[RocknRollface]

The 3 fouls on the year is just an astonishing stat to me. Just a lot of wrong with that from a 6' 9" kid playing 26 minutes + a game through 12 games. Occasional over the back, Hard foul in the post to stop an easy basket Arm bar defending a drive... An aggressive player would have one or two of those a game. To be a good defender you need to live on the edge of to much contact with the refs.

His foul at Creighton was intentional too so he's really only fouled twice at best and both of those were before the Creighton game.

That's a complete lack of competitiveness.

 

[intrepodor]

And to think he was coming off the bench ahead of a really good player and starting ahead of another one. I’m so tired of nepotism at UI. Thank God it will be all over with after this bball season.

Thank you Jack for going somewhere else.

 

[RocknRollface]

When I hear people say Pat is undersized I always think of Nicholas Baer at 6'7, just as skinny and less athletic averaging close to 5 rebounds and a block a game.