How in the world do you get 12 or 13 games unto a season and only have 3 fouls? That has to be one of the crazier stats I have ever seen.
What does Patrick bring?
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Rebraca really improved from his junior to senior year on his inside game. Miss his efforts on the glass on both ends of the court especially at a disadvantage size for a BIG #5. Freeman ain’t skeerd and he’s gaining more confidence every game. Looking forward to watch him develop further this year.
I like what Krikke brings to the court. He’s at a disadvantage with his frame in the BIG at a 5 but his short range jumpers and ability to use the glass inside makes him a pretty decent 4 if Freeman can continue to get the minutes he deserves. Problem as I see it is there are 20+ minutes a game of fluff with little to show for it that puts a lot of pressure on the other four on the court during those 20+ minutes. Unfortunately that’s not going to change this year.
I still can’t believe the 1 offense rebound stat. In comparison Brauns has 2 in 27 min and laketa also has 1 in 13 min on the season.
Yeah that's just, I don't give a shit attitude. It about has to be. Not sure what's going on with Patrick. With parents that act like they do it's no wonder he's messed up
I don’t think Jack M is going to be a Hawkeye, so this is the last year that Fran will be coaching a son at Iowa.
Unless PM changes his mind and comes back for covid year. I think he has that option although he has stated this is his last year. I hope he is true to his word because I cannot stand to watch him lope around the court and Dad keeps starting/playing him.
You said Mulvey is worse than Patrick. Mulvey hasn’t played at all in his three years really. Patrick plays like 25 to 30 minutes a night. So your argument is that Mulvey is worse than Patrick and that justifies Patrick playing how many minutes he does. Can you explain that to me?!?!?
And before you get technical maybe he is the worst defender and rebounder the guy has ever seen because he’s the only one?!? You don’t know. 🤷♂️
Keep in mind one was an intentional foul to try to stop the clock.
So two fouls while trying to compete on defense.
Do we know if either of the two true fouls were offensive? We may be able to whittle this down to one or none.
Threads like this scare recruits and parents away from Iowa. Patrick, according to stats posted by Iowa on Christmas Eve, is the team's third leading scorer per game and in the top three in rebounding per game also.
I think what's scared players/recruits away thus far is knowing that the coach's son is going to play the majority of minutes, regardless of talent/effort.
Sandfort is an MVC alpha who thinks his "game face" makes him a BT player.
He's a BT support player at best, and I don't think his younger brother ever does anything here.
Good. Maybe it scares Fran away and someone else can start over.
BTW - pretty much every school in America has boards like these, or other social media, so the snowflake parents and kids better grow a spine 🤔😉
Pryce would’ve been a good player to red shirt. But with transfers and portals coaches less inclined to do so these days. He’s just not physically ready for big 10. Not ready to throw in the towel on him this early.
And that doesn't consider how much he hurts the team by not participating consistently. You play team defense, and except when he is on the point of the press, he is mostly a no show. Owen is the only player taller, but he refuses to battle on the boards or defend the basket. On offense, he make some plays, but he makes it harder to consistently have a team flow...
Connor and JBO both said the same thing and ended up playing a 6th year.
His foul at Creighton was intentional to unsuccessfully prevent a shot from happening. Then the shot went in.
No one under the age of 35 even knows what a message board is.
Their parents don't care about the opinions of the few hundred people that still use them.
I think Pryce actually has a little more upside than Payton.
He's slightly quicker and a little better of a ballhandler and generally has a little better feel for the game.
Payton is always rushing.
At this point we'll agree to disagree, and I hope I'm wrong
Foul #1 came in the North Dakota game as he fouled on defense on a layup that turned into a 3pt play.
He then had 2 fouls against Creighton. One he fouled Kalkbrenner in the 1st half on a layup turning into another 3pt play. He then fouled King on a layup for another 3pt play in the 2nd half.
This is going through ESPN play by play..
It wasn’t trying to stop the clock. It was trying to prevent an easy basket, which turned into an NBA continuation for an And 1. This was against Creighton. Patrick had another foul which was an And 1 vs Creighton in the 1st half. The 3rd foul on Patrick was game one vs North Dakota, which was also a shooting foul. All three for the year have been shooting fouls.
The foul on the Creighton big was not a layup. It was a post up.
The creighton big caught the ball with his back to the basket about 3 feet from the rim with Patrick between him and the basket in position to defend.
Rather than even attempt to play defense Patrick intentionally fouled a guy with his back to the basket.
That one play pretty well demonstarates his feelings about playing defense and physicality.
It was actually a pretty smart play on Patrick’s behalf as he was caught on a switch. The foul occurred well before the shot attempt and should have never been an And 1. Bad break / poor officiating, take your pick. We can agree to disagree all day long on that play. There was no “playing defense” at that point. It was either an easy two or give a cheap foul.
His first foul of the game was horrible defense on his part. He got F’d on the intentional one though.
Kind of late to the Patrick party but here’s my two cents.
Patrick is soooo done playing basketball. It’s pretty obvious that he’s going through the motions, doesn’t want to disappoint his family or teammates, but he simply doesn’t have it in him anymore(whether that’s mental or physical is immaterial)
It would be best for everyone involved if he just hung it up, maybe stay on the bench for support/coaching(if that’s a path for him) and let younger, much hungrier guys, take his minutes.
It would be a difficult decision but in the long run it’s best for the program and team. I mean, if he wants 10 minutes/game where he can go all out…fine. But he’s never really been an energy type player. Nor do I think he could transition to that type of role.
Patrick is soooo done playing basketball. It’s pretty obvious that he’s going through the motions, doesn’t want to disappoint his family or teammates, but he simply doesn’t have it in him anymore(whether that’s mental or physical is immaterial)
It would be best for everyone involved if he just hung it up, maybe stay on the bench for support/coaching(if that’s a path for him) and let younger, much hungrier guys, take his minutes.
It would be a difficult decision but in the long run it’s best for the program and team. I mean, if he wants 10 minutes/game where he can go all out…fine. But he’s never really been an energy type player. Nor do I think he could transition to that type of role.
Yes, he fouled quickly and it was NBA continuation.
The analyst, Hummel?, may have even made a comment along those lines.
Lol what? The offensive player had his back to the basket 3 feet from the hoop when Patrick decided to foul.
Patrick was in perfect position to wall up and contest the shot. All he had to do was stand there with his arms up.
That's sure what it looks like.
It's a really tough position for him to be in. I'm sure he doesn't want to let his family down or disappoint them.
If that's the case, and it's not unreasonable, then Fran needs to fix it quickly
Yes you can tell he just have the same love and passion for the game like Connor does. Where I’m sure if given the option connor wouldve come back for a 7th season and now he’s working with the pacers I believe following dad into coaching. Kind of tough spot like anyone else when you have the family business with your dad and older brother follows in his footsteps and you can tell the younger son just doesn’t feel the same or heart isn’t nearly into it like the other two.
Patrick was beyond the FT line and ran down to the guy three feet from the hoop and fouled him as soon as he caught the pass.
Yes, perfect position to wall him off 🙄
Now play the video. I dare you. Because I just watched it.Patrick was beyond the FT line and ran down to the guy three feet from the hoop and fouled him as soon as he caught the pass.
Yes, perfect position to wall him off 🙄
I'm right.
He recovered and gets in between the offensive player and the basket before the guy ever turns around.
Because he had already fouled him. I’ve watched the video too.
The only reason it looks like Patrick “recovered” is because 1) he already fouled him and 2) the Creighton guys turns to his left into Patrick, who was nowhere near set, instead of going to his right which was wide open to the hoop. No chance of Patrick setting himself and walling him off.
My question is why is the guy unattended in the first place? Is/Was he PM’s responsibility in the first place? If so why the hell is he wide open under the basket while PM is at the free throw line looking the wrong way from where the ball is at before the entry pass down low?
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