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What would you do if your child came out as transgender?

You are wrong. If they can reduce how much they have to pay later, they could afford an initial investment.

I think what you're missing here is the fact that insurance companies don't really care how much they pay out,.. They collect premiums, take a percentage, and pay the medical bills,. The money always comes from the policy holders, and if margins begin to thin, premiums go up,... In fact, the more an insurance carrier has to pay out, the more they stand to make,... The one who potentially stands to benefit from this approach is the policy holder, provided they can be differentiated as a "healthier than normal client" and they can find an insurance carrier willing to acknowledge that with their premiums...
 
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so when a doctor who's patient has gone through "meds and counseling" now recommends surgery, you think "no, that's too far. my feelings about the subject negate this doctor's educated, medical opinion"
No, they just have to pay for it. Again, someone could be depressed and suicidal about their appearance, but I'm not willing to say insurance should cover face lifts and nose jobs.
 
I think what you're missing here is the fact that insurance companies don't really care how much they pay out,.. They collect premiums, take a percentage, and pay the medical bills,. The money always comes from the policy holders, and if margins begin to thin, premiums go up,... In fact, the more an insurance carrier has to pay out, the more they stand to make,... The one who potentially stands to benefit from this approach is the policy holder, provided they can be differentiated as a "healthier than normal client" and they can find an insurance carrier willing to acknowledge that with their premiums...
They are always fighting paying for claims, but I suppose you are correct. They win no matter what
 
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No, they just have to pay for it. Again, someone could be depressed and suicidal about their appearance, but I'm not willing to say insurance should cover face lifts and nose jobs.
are there doctors that say face lifts are part of medical treatment?

you don't seem to want to acknowledge that medical professionals have said these kinds of procedures are part of medical treatment. or you just seem to think that your personal feelings on the subject should supersede that fact.
 
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are there doctors that say face lifts are part of medical treatment?

you don't seem to want to acknowledge that medical professionals have said these kinds of procedures are part of medical treatment. or you just seem to think that your personal feelings on the subject should supersede that fact.
What sort of rules would be in place, age wise? Reversal of surgery costs go to ? Fixed amount that patient must pay? Amount the provider has to write off? I could possibly be persuaded.
 
They are always fighting paying for claims, but I suppose you are correct. They win no matter what

They always win, provided they are smart enough to accurately gauge and anticipate the cost of the services they are covering,.. Too high, they can't sell their policies,.. Too low, they risk tanking the business.
 
Good Lord, this topic again?

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Below, we review gym membership benefits offered by a selection of health insurance companies:

  • Aetna: Some Aetna insurance plans offer savings on gym memberships, health coach services, and nutrition products.
  • Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey: Enrollees in the company’s fitness incentive program get a $20 reward per month ($240 per year). Members must work out at least 12 times a month at participating gyms to qualify. And they have the option to report visits through the HorizonbFit app.
  • Kaiser Permanente: Like some other health insurance providers, Kaiser Permanente offers customers free or discounted gym memberships through partnerships with organizations such as Active&Fit.
 
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Below, we review gym membership benefits offered by a selection of health insurance companies:

  • Aetna: Some Aetna insurance plans offer savings on gym memberships, health coach services, and nutrition products.
  • Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey: Enrollees in the company’s fitness incentive program get a $20 reward per month ($240 per year). Members must work out at least 12 times a month at participating gyms to qualify. And they have the option to report visits through the HorizonbFit app.
  • Kaiser Permanente: Like some other health insurance providers, Kaiser Permanente offers customers free or discounted gym memberships through partnerships with organizations such as Active&Fit.
It's hilarious that you think this is equivalent.
 
It's hilarious that you think this is equivalent.
It’s a start. Not the equivalent, yet. I hope we get to the point where it is though. It’s funny your point was no insurance would do it, then it was oh that’s Medicare, now it’s “well that’s not the equivalent “ what a disingenuous person you are
 
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It’s a start. Not the equivalent, yet. I hope we get to the point where it is though. It’s funny your point was no insurance would do it, then it was oh that’s Medicare, now it’s “well that’s not the equivalent “ what a disingenuous person you are
You're flailing.

What are your premiums for Medicare?
 
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA. Can't figure out what your premiums are for Medicare I see. Makes sense.

Whatever makes you feel better.
I’m not on Medicare old man, what’s that have to do with advantage plans and other plans paying for gym benefits? Which you said they never would. Put a fork in yourself, you’re done
 
I’m not on Medicare old man, what’s that have to do with advantage plans and other plans paying for gym benefits? Which you said they never would. Put a fork in yourself, you’re done
Youi're just making shit up now. Not surprised.

Carry on.
 
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