When does Trump send US troops into Ukraine to fight against Ukraine?

[pjhawk]

Does anyone on here really understand what is going on or the history of why the war is going on?

In 1994 Clinton and the UN were establishing the presence of force within Western Europe. Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin had a treaty that it would NEVER get into Eastern Europe.

Over years, we and the UN have started moving a presence into Eastern Europe. Republican and Democrat presidents have been guilty of that.

In 2013 Biden went to Ukraine to broker a treaty between Russia and Ukraine that Ukraine wouldn't be in the UN.

2021 the talks of Ukraine becoming an UN member and Putin invaded after giving plenty of warnings he didn't want Ukraine in the UN.

Why is this such a big deal... Well we didn't like the Soviets moving military presence into Cuba in the 60's.

Ask yourself if China, Iran (and other Middle Eastern countries), Russia and others got together and formed a pact with Canada and Mexico. Then started moving a large military force and weapons into Canada and Mexico all after they signed treaty after treaty saying they wouldn't.

The US and UN have been playing the game of Risk since . This global world crap needs to stop.

The Ukraine/Russian war is on us. Political corruption caused this war. Many people's lives were ended because of the corruption. This war is Biden's and the UN's Vietnam.

Trump is probably a Russian asset, you're too stupid for that. Even have NATO and the UN all garbled up together.

The world of the MAGA dumbshit. Anything bad that ever happens anywhere in the world is the fault of the "Democrat" party in the United States. Because reasons.

"Corruption". A MAGA flack having the gall to say that word or accuse anyone else of it.

Dude is giving us straight Russian propaganda, they are a great power on our level, how would we feel in the same situation?

Well, we may be on the verge of finding out with the current Trump administration's hostile attitude toward the sovereign nations of Mexico and Canada, which are per the MAGA mind in our sphere of influence, just as the Russian's have their own apparently rightful sphere of influence which includes sovereign Ukraine.

 

[Sharky1203]

Thanks. So a memorandum not a treaty, and regardless of memorandum or treaty, Russia violated with its invasion of Crimea in 2014, correct? What am I missing here?

Because we and Ukraine moved nukes into the region.

 

[Sharky1203]

Trump is probably a Russian asset, you're too stupid for that. Even have NATO and the UN all garbled up together.

The world of the MAGA dumbshit. Anything bad that ever happens anywhere in the world is the fault of the "Democrat" party in the United States. Because reasons.

"Corruption". A MAGA flack having the gall to say that word or accuse anyone else of it.

Dude is giving us straight Russian propaganda, they are a great power on our level, how would we feel in the same situation?

Well, we may be on the verge of finding out with the current Trump administration's hostile attitude toward the sovereign nations of Mexico and Canada, which are per the MAGA mind in our sphere of influence, just as the Russian's have their own apparently rightful sphere of influence which includes sovereign Ukraine.

And Biden and his family were Ukrainian agents. What's your point. MAGA has nothing to do with the history of why the war was started.

 

[Sharky1203]

Trump is probably a Russian asset, you're too stupid for that. Even have NATO and the UN all garbled up together.

The world of the MAGA dumbshit. Anything bad that ever happens anywhere in the world is the fault of the "Democrat" party in the United States. Because reasons.

"Corruption". A MAGA flack having the gall to say that word or accuse anyone else of it.

Dude is giving us straight Russian propaganda, they are a great power on our level, how would we feel in the same situation?

Well, we may be on the verge of finding out with the current Trump administration's hostile attitude toward the sovereign nations of Mexico and Canada, which are per the MAGA mind in our sphere of influence, just as the Russian's have their own apparently rightful sphere of influence which includes sovereign Ukraine.

And I'll add, all the Democrats and Bush did was throw billions of dollars to a corrupt government.

 

[pjhawk]

And Biden and his family were Ukrainian agents. What's your point. MAGA has nothing to do with the history of why the war was started.

OMFG this is ridiculous.

The war started because Putin is an exceptionally corrupt and nutball expansionist Dictator who is not subject to any guardrails within his country to rein in his nuttiness. He's Idi Amin Dada with nukes. He wants to reconstitute the old Soviet Union, or at the least to exert control of those countries from the outside. See the attempted manipulations or takeovers of other former Soviet Republics like Georgia. The defacto current control of Belarus via another compliant totalitarian dictator.

Blaming the war on anyone/anything other than Putin is Russian propaganda and is ridiculous. And the idea that it's Ukraine that's corrupt and absolutely no mention of the nature of Putin's state and regime, basically a gangster state.

Biden and the Biden family and the Democrats. And probably the Jewish Space lasers. Cuckoo for Cocoa puffs.

 

[BondHawk]

A large percentage of the Ukrainian population don't want the current government.

So, pretty much like the U.S then?

 

[pocha444444]

Because we and Ukraine moved nukes into the region.

What are you talking about specifically? What region? Ukraine doesn't have nukes per the 1994 agreement. You're saying Russia was justified in invading Ukraine because of Nukes somewhere else?

 

[Sharky1203]

OMFG this is ridiculous.

The war started because Putin is a nutball expansionist Dictator who is not subject to any guardrails within his country to rein in his nuttiness. He's Idi Amin Dada with nukes. He wants to reconstitute the old Soviet Union, or at the least to exert control of those countries from the outside. See the attempted manipulations or takeovers of other former Soviet Republics like Georgia. The defacto current control of Belarus via another compliant totalitarian dictator.

Blaming the war on anyone/anything other than Putin is Russian propaganda and is ridiculous.

Biden and the Biden family and the Democrats. And probably the Jewish Space lasers. Cuckoo for Cocoa puffs.

Okay, agree to disagree. Like every war since 1960 we had a hand into the lead up to it. It usually involves giving billions to other countries.

 

[Tiny Hands Trump]

Tulsi is certainly already handing them all our intelligence.

 

[seminole97]

Hahahahaha!!!!! “Russia had to invade a sovereign nation and commit all those war crimes because Ukraine wanted to sign on to an alliance that’s never started a war in its decades of existence.” -Sharky The Assclown

NATO intervened on the side of jihadists in Libya to ‘regime change’ that country into a decade and counting of chaos.
They also initiated a bombing campaign over two months in duration against civilian infrastructure like power and transportation to enforce a partition of a sovereign country in Serbia.
In both cases the country that NATO bombed had not attacked or even threatened to attack a NATO member.
In both cases the Democratic president used NATO as vehicle to end run congressional authorization, pretending the approval of NATO was sufficient to start bombing another country when there was no imminent threat to our country that precluded the involvement of Congress.

 

[pjhawk]

Okay, agree to disagree. Like every war since 1960 we had a hand into the lead up to it. It usually involves giving billions to other countries.

Just the talking up of Ukrainian state corruption apparently in cooperation with the Biden crime family and US Democrats vs the Russian state that is explicitly a corrupt gangster regime. Just unbelievable.

 

[sabula]

You know it's coming

I'm sure it has been ordered so by his master Putin. So sad for the good ol' USA.

 

[franklinman]

JFC. Yes I’m sure any day now we will start selling F-35’s to Russia. Good lord.

Hell RUSSIA couldn't come up with the money to buy the wheels, they're broke.

 

[BioHawk]

Oh so true. Which is why the United States does not need to be involved in everything.

Well, if you want stable regions to conduct business we do. But I guess we aren't worried about that anymore. You're just going to bitch about how expensive everything is and then cry about every possible solution to that problem. And then kick brown people out of the country for some reason, which makes everything even more expensive.

 

[Osprey Lion]

It's what he wants so he can blame Trump when US troops start coming home in boxes and in pieces. What a crazy, selfish, little prick he is........

Did you twice vote for George W. Bush?

 

[Osprey Lion]

Does anyone on here really understand what is going on or the history of why the war is going on?

In 1994 Clinton and the UN were establishing the presence of force within Western Europe. Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin had a treaty that it would NEVER get into Eastern Europe.

Over years, we and the UN have started moving a presence into Eastern Europe. Republican and Democrat presidents have been guilty of that.

In 2013 Biden went to Ukraine to broker a treaty between Russia and Ukraine that Ukraine wouldn't be in the UN.

2021 the talks of Ukraine becoming an UN member and Putin invaded after giving plenty of warnings he didn't want Ukraine in the UN.

Why is this such a big deal... Well we didn't like the Soviets moving military presence into Cuba in the 60's.

Ask yourself if China, Iran (and other Middle Eastern countries), Russia and others got together and formed a pact with Canada and Mexico. Then started moving a large military force and weapons into Canada and Mexico all after they signed treaty after treaty saying they wouldn't.

The US and UN have been playing the game of Risk since 1994. This global world crap needs to stop.

The Ukraine/Russian war is on us. Political corruption caused this war. Many people's lives were ended because of the corruption. This war is Biden's and the UN's Vietnam.

Obviously you have no idea what is going on since you don't know the difference between the UN and NATO.

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

NATO intervened on the side of jihadists in Libya to ‘regime change’ that country into a decade and counting of chaos.
They also initiated a bombing campaign over two months in duration against civilian infrastructure like power and transportation to enforce a partition of a sovereign country in Serbia.
In both cases the country that NATO bombed had not attacked or even threatened to attack a NATO member.
In both cases the Democratic president used NATO as vehicle to end run congressional authorization, pretending the approval of NATO was sufficient to start bombing another country when there was no imminent threat to our country that precluded the involvement of Congress.

Nice revisionist history, but that was to protect citizens against Gaddafi. But this is not surprising as you lap up every bit of Russian propaganda you can.

 

[soybean]

Does anyone on here really understand what is going on or the history of why the war is going on?

In 1994 Clinton and the UN were establishing the presence of force within Western Europe. Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin had a treaty that it would NEVER get into Eastern Europe.

Over years, we and the UN have started moving a presence into Eastern Europe. Republican and Democrat presidents have been guilty of that.

In 2013 Biden went to Ukraine to broker a treaty between Russia and Ukraine that Ukraine wouldn't be in the UN.

2021 the talks of Ukraine becoming an UN member and Putin invaded after giving plenty of warnings he didn't want Ukraine in the UN.

Why is this such a big deal... Well we didn't like the Soviets moving military presence into Cuba in the 60's.

Ask yourself if China, Iran (and other Middle Eastern countries), Russia and others got together and formed a pact with Canada and Mexico. Then started moving a large military force and weapons into Canada and Mexico all after they signed treaty after treaty saying they wouldn't.

The US and UN have been playing the game of Risk since 1994. This global world crap needs to stop.

The Ukraine/Russian war is on us. Political corruption caused this war. Many people's lives were ended because of the corruption. This war is Biden's and the UN's Vietnam.

I'm thinking you mean NATO not the UN?

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

No it's not. Don't be stupid.

Are you standing with Ukraine in Ukraine

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Do you want to enlist? 🤡 Just think of showering with all those fit, ripped, recruits! 🤣

And NYC ticker tape parade shouting USA

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Nice revisionist history, but that was to protect citizens against Gaddafi. But this is not surprising as you lap up every bit of Russian propaganda you can.

When does US intervene in Lebanon? Oh, That country is low on natural resources. No one cares. Who revises history?

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

I believe the motivation for yesterday's debacle is simply Trump admires dictatorship type governance.

He wants to be in the same conversation as Putin and Xi.

We've hypothesized for years what kind of leverage Putin has on him. We might never know, but it's clear it's something.

You missed most of the interview. When do you report for basic?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Does anyone on here really understand what is going on or the history of why the war is going on?

In 1994 Clinton and the UN were establishing the presence of force within Western Europe. Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin had a treaty that it would NEVER get into Eastern Europe.

Over years, we and the UN have started moving a presence into Eastern Europe. Republican and Democrat presidents have been guilty of that.

In 2013 Biden went to Ukraine to broker a treaty between Russia and Ukraine that Ukraine wouldn't be in the UN.

2021 the talks of Ukraine becoming an UN member and Putin invaded after giving plenty of warnings he didn't want Ukraine in the UN.

Why is this such a big deal... Well we didn't like the Soviets moving military presence into Cuba in the 60's.

Ask yourself if China, Iran (and other Middle Eastern countries), Russia and others got together and formed a pact with Canada and Mexico. Then started moving a large military force and weapons into Canada and Mexico all after they signed treaty after treaty saying they wouldn't.

The US and UN have been playing the game of Risk since 1994. This global world crap needs to stop.

The Ukraine/Russian war is on us. Political corruption caused this war. Many people's lives were ended because of the corruption. This war is Biden's and the UN's Vietnam.

None of what you wrote makes any sense whatsoever. None of it. Where the hell did you get your talking points from?

For one, Ukraine was one of the founding members of the UN. What the hell are you talking about?

And I can’t keep up with this shit. Three years ago, Putin invaded Ukraine because Biden is weak while Trump had Putin under control. Now, Russia is the victim because of Biden and the UN? This is the fault of the US because we helped back Putin and Russia into a corner? Is that what you’re saying?

What the hell are you trying to say? You’re all over the place making no ****ing sense whatsoever. I mean, is all of the inane drivel you just typed written entirely in the interest of defending Team Trump?

Jesus Christ.

 

[seminole97]

Nice revisionist history, but that was to protect citizens against Gaddafi. But this is not surprising as you lap up every bit of Russian propaganda you can.

The British Parliament investigated.
Turned out the intervention on behalf of jihadists in Libya was built on lies that you swallowed then and still believe today.

U.K. Parliament report details how NATO's 2011 war in Libya was based on lies​

British investigation: Gaddafi was not going to massacre civilians; Western bombing made Islamist extremism worse​

By BEN NORTON​

PUBLISHED SEPTEMBER 16, 2016​

https://www.salon.com/2016/09/16/u-...ow-natos-2011-war-in-libya-was-based-on-lies/

A new report by the British Parliament shows that the 2011 NATO war in Libya was based on an array of lies.

"Libya: Examination of intervention and collapse and the UK’s future policy options," an investigation by the House of Commons' bipartisan Foreign Affairs Committee, strongly condemns the U.K.'s role in the war, which toppled the government of Libya's leader Muammar Qaddafi and plunged the North African country into chaos.


Next you’ll call me a ‘revisionist’ for pointing out the Democrats spread the WMD lies about Iraq too.

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

The British Parliament investigated.
Turned out the intervention on behalf of jihadists in Libya was built on lies that you swallowed then and still believe today.

U.K. Parliament report details how NATO's 2011 war in Libya was based on lies​

British investigation: Gaddafi was not going to massacre civilians; Western bombing made Islamist extremism worse​

By BEN NORTON​

PUBLISHED SEPTEMBER 16, 2016​

https://www.salon.com/2016/09/16/u-...ow-natos-2011-war-in-libya-was-based-on-lies/

A new report by the British Parliament shows that the 2011 NATO war in Libya was based on an array of lies.

"Libya: Examination of intervention and collapse and the UK’s future policy options," an investigation by the House of Commons' bipartisan Foreign Affairs Committee, strongly condemns the U.K.'s role in the war, which toppled the government of Libya's leader Muammar Qaddafi and plunged the North African country into chaos.


Next you’ll call me a ‘revisionist’ for pointing out the Democrats spread the WMD lies about Iraq too.

They didn’t intervene on behalf of jihadists. That’s your revisionism. And speaking of revisionism, an administration of Republicans lied about WMDs. Too bad so many Dems actually believed Conservative Republicans. Big mistake every time. But why am I not surprised a Putin/Trump pole smoker is also a Gadaffi dick sucker.

 

[seminole97]

They didn’t intervene on behalf of jihadists. That’s your revisionism.

I’m talking about the reality, you’re still embracing the lies.

And speaking of revisionism, an administration of Republicans lied about WMDs. Too bad so many Dems actually believed Conservative Republicans. Big mistake every time.

Nice try.

"People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."
-- Ex President Bill Clinton, Jul. 22, 2003 (Interview with CNN Larry King)

“I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration. And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction. What we're worried about is an A-bomb in a Ryder truck in New York, in Washington and St. Louis. It cannot happen. We have to prevent it from happening.”
-- Rep. Richard Gephardt (D, MO) Nov. 2, 2003

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities. I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein. ... Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons."
-- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D. CA) Oct. 10, 2002

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

I’m talking about the reality, you’re still embracing the lies.



Nice try.

"People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."
-- Ex President Bill Clinton, Jul. 22, 2003 (Interview with CNN Larry King)

“I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration. And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction. What we're worried about is an A-bomb in a Ryder truck in New York, in Washington and St. Louis. It cannot happen. We have to prevent it from happening.”
-- Rep. Richard Gephardt (D, MO) Nov. 2, 2003

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities. I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein. ... Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons."
-- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D. CA) Oct. 10, 2002

Just one question, genius: Who informed, and vouched for, the intelligence gathered by “Curveball” (lol) to the Select Committee?

 

[seminole97]

Just one question, genius: Who informed, and vouched for, the intelligence gathered by “Curveball” (lol) to the Select Committee?

Just three questions, genius.

How does that change Pelosi citing her 10 years (from 92-02 on the Select Intelligence Committee)?
How does that change Clinton saying that at the end of his admin Saddam had WMD?
How does that change Gephardt saying “I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration. And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction.“

It doesn’t.
You just want to pretend none of that happened and that the lies about Iraq’s WMD weren’t a bipartisan affair.
You blind hack.

At least acknowledge you were still peddling lies about the Libya intervention in 2025 because you were unaware that the UK Parliament had already exposed them. Because continuing to spread those lies if you actually knew better wouldn't just be embarrassing, it’d mean you were deliberately spreading disinformation.

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

Just three questions, genius.

How does that change Pelosi citing her 10 years (from 92-02 on the Select Intelligence Committee)?
How does that change Clinton saying that at the end of his admin Saddam had WMD?
How does that change Gephardt saying “I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration. And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction.“

It doesn’t.
You just want to pretend none of that happened and that the lies about Iraq’s WMD weren’t a bipartisan affair.
You blind hack.

At least acknowledge you were still peddling lies about the Libya intervention in 2025 because you were unaware that the UK Parliament had already exposed them. Because continuing to spread those lies if you actually knew better wouldn't just be embarrassing, it’d mean you were deliberately spreading disinformation.

None of that said Sadam had those weapons, and none disproves how W’s administration sold the lie. Shocking you wanted to obfuscate instead of answer. I would have if I was caught in such an unenviable lie too.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

When does US intervene in Lebanon? Oh, That country is low on natural resources. No one cares. Who revises history?

Tell it to the Marines who died there is 81'-82' you stupid, mother****ing POS........

 

[hawksurprize]

Does anyone on here really understand what is going on or the history of why the war is going on?

In 1994 Clinton and the UN were establishing the presence of force within Western Europe. Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin had a treaty that it would NEVER get into Eastern Europe.

Over years, we and the UN have started moving a presence into Eastern Europe. Republican and Democrat presidents have been guilty of that.

In 2013 Biden went to Ukraine to broker a treaty between Russia and Ukraine that Ukraine wouldn't be in the UN.

2021 the talks of Ukraine becoming an UN member and Putin invaded after giving plenty of warnings he didn't want Ukraine in the UN.

Why is this such a big deal... Well we didn't like the Soviets moving military presence into Cuba in the 60's.

Ask yourself if China, Iran (and other Middle Eastern countries), Russia and others got together and formed a pact with Canada and Mexico. Then started moving a large military force and weapons into Canada and Mexico all after they signed treaty after treaty saying they wouldn't.

The US and UN have been playing the game of Risk since 1994. This global world crap needs to stop.

The Ukraine/Russian war is on us. Political corruption caused this war. Many people's lives were ended because of the corruption. This war is Biden's and the UN's Vietnam.

You think 1994? You have no idea the history and should just stop now. Think Lenin and Bolshvieks. The more you know.

 

[B1GDeal]

Does anyone on here really understand what is going on or the history of why the war is going on?

In 1994 Clinton and the UN were establishing the presence of force within Western Europe. Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin had a treaty that it would NEVER get into Eastern Europe.

Over years, we and the UN have started moving a presence into Eastern Europe. Republican and Democrat presidents have been guilty of that.

In 2013 Biden went to Ukraine to broker a treaty between Russia and Ukraine that Ukraine wouldn't be in the UN.

2021 the talks of Ukraine becoming an UN member and Putin invaded after giving plenty of warnings he didn't want Ukraine in the UN.

Why is this such a big deal... Well we didn't like the Soviets moving military presence into Cuba in the 60's.

Ask yourself if China, Iran (and other Middle Eastern countries), Russia and others got together and formed a pact with Canada and Mexico. Then started moving a large military force and weapons into Canada and Mexico all after they signed treaty after treaty saying they wouldn't.

The US and UN have been playing the game of Risk since 1994. This global world crap needs to stop.

The Ukraine/Russian war is on us. Political corruption caused this war. Many people's lives were ended because of the corruption. This war is Biden's and the UN's Vietnam.

Uhhh, the US, UN and NATO are all different things. At least read up a little on all of this before posting.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Tell it to the Marines who died there is 81'-82' you stupid, mother****ing POS........

Talking right now. No resources. That was Reagan. No resources and no one cares. Haven't been back since. That was to help stabilize the border with Israel. No matter how much you pout, it doesn't change anything.

Put another way, ask the Lebanese Druz. No one cares.

We care about Ukraine for one reason. Natural resources we don't have in terrific supplies. We aren't there for Ukrainians.

 

[hawksurprize]

Talking right now. No resources. That was Reagan. No resources and no one cares. Haven't been back since. That was to help stabilize the border with Israel. No matter how much you pout, it doesn't change anything.

Put another way, ask the Lebanese Druz. No one cares.

We care about Ukraine for one reason. Natural resources we don't have in terrific supplies. We aren't there for Ukrainians.

And why do we care about Russia a first world poser?

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

And why do we care about Russia a first world poser?

Not sure about your question.

I care about Ukraine due to personal experience in relationships. Most people in the US don't have that. So why do we care about Ukraine or put another way, how much do we care?

Are you standing with Ukraine .... from across the ocean?

 

[hawksurprize]

Not sure about your question.

I care about Ukraine due to personal experience in relationships. Most people in the US don't have that. So why do we care about Ukraine or put another way, how much do we care?

Are you standing with Ukraine .... from across the ocean?

Because I've have personal relationships.

 

[hawksurprize]

Not sure about your question.

I care about Ukraine due to personal experience in relationships. Most people in the US don't have that. So why do we care about Ukraine or put another way, how much do we care?

Are you standing with Ukraine .... from across the ocean?

You want the u.s. to abandon Ukraine 🇺🇦. Your relationship is in eastern Donbaes

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

You want the u.s. to abandon Ukraine 🇺🇦. Your relationship is in eastern Donbaes

Not at all. Let me ask you this as I have friends in Central and East Ukraine. Personal friends. Are you or your children ready to fight in Ukraine? Ukraine has demonstrated an inability to use many US weapons. No way they win this without US troops in large numbers on the ground. It's a numbers game.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

Talking right now. No resources. That was Reagan. No resources and no one cares. Haven't been back since. That was to help stabilize the border with Israel. No matter how much you pout, it doesn't change anything.

Put another way, ask the Lebanese Druz. No one cares.

We care about Ukraine for one reason. Natural resources we don't have in terrific supplies. We aren't there for Ukrainians.

You're ****ing retarded! Right now, Israel has Lebanon covered, so why would we need to intervene?

Phucking druze militia are the lowest life cocksuckers that ever crawled across this planet!!

 

[hawksurprize]

Not at all. Let me ask you this as I have friends in Central and East Ukraine. Personal friends. Are you or your children ready to fight in Ukraine? Ukraine has demonstrated an inability to use many US weapons. No way they win this without US troops in large numbers on the ground. It's a numbers game.

Russian troops are second rate. Europe could handle them just fine.