Which of the 6 New American Parties Would You Align With?

[What Would Jesus Do?]

This interesting article (see below) makes the argument for switching to a proportional representation system here in the US. Apparently no constitutional change is needed, just a small tweak of existing laws.

Part of their argument is that because of our winner-take-all approach, nearly half of us don't have representation in the House of Reps.

Another part of the argument is that with proportional representation, more parties would likely arise so we wouldn't so often have to chose between 2 candidates and parties we don't feel much (if any) connection with.

After massaging a huge database on voters, they identify 6 somewhat overlapping clusters of values and interests and suggest that we could end up with these parties - more or less from left to right:

Progressive Party - emphasizes equity and racial justice, bringing a vision of inclusive social democracy …
New Liberal Party - slightly to the right of the Progressives, more pro-market while still holding liberal social views.
New Populist Party - more in the middle, combining economic populism with moderate views on cultural and social issues …
Growth and Opportunity Party - heir to the socially moderate, market-friendly Rockefeller Republicans.
Patriot Party - would carry forward the America First agenda, with restrictionist immigration and protectionist economics …
Christian Conservative Party - argues for limited national government and emphasizes religious liberty and biblical morality.

I took the quiz (2nd link below) and they put me in the New Liberal Party. Surprised me a bit, since I consider myself a progressive. And on their graph, my dot is closer to the Progressive Party, but what do I know? Maybe I'm getting conservative in my old age.

Article on proportional representation:

Opinion | How to Fix America’s Two-Party Problem

Proportional representation could help restore American democracy.

www.nytimes.com

Quiz to sort yourself into your new party:

Opinion | Quiz: If America Had Six Parties, Which Would You Belong To? (Published 2021)

We can fix American politics. Just add more parties.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Chishawk1425]

Not an anti American Fascist cultist

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Not an anti American Fascist cultist

I thought about adding that to the choices, but decided to stick with their list.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Here's the summary chart from the first link in the OP. If you can figure out what you're seeing, it shows the overlapping clusters of shared sentiment that sort of naturally coalesce into the 6 parties.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Pay wall

 

[NDallasRuss]

You are closest to the Growth and Opportunity Party​

From the quiz, I'm almost exactly on the middle intersection.

 

[cigaretteman]

New Liberal Party for me.

 

[Moral]

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Pay wall

I know. Sorry about that.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Now that's more like what I was expecting. Instead, I got this

 

[B1GDeal]

Pay wall, but I'd just guess New Liberal to New Populist range.

 

[Moral]

Now that's more like what I was expecting. Instead, I got this

I didn't realize you were so far right.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I didn't realize you were so far right.

Me either. What am I doing wrong?

 

[Scruddy]

Not an anti American Fascist cultist

I could have sworn you were a Democrat this whole time too..

 

[desihawk]

Here's the summary chart from the first link in the OP. If you can figure out what you're seeing, it shows the overlapping clusters of shared sentiment that sort of naturally coalesce into the 6 parties.

assuming the data is real, very interesting diagram.
i would've expected the data to be more vertically distributed along the middle (instead of roughly horizontal distribution). very surprising that the lowest corner is virtually unpopulated. also i would've expected much more of a smattering of christian conservatives and patriots in other locations. i suppose the way they've defined the parties generates neat separations.

 

[BioHawk]

I guessed I was a New Liberal Party member and the quiz said I was the New Liberal Party although I have issues with the questions they were asking. They had way too many questions based on identity politics and I didn't like the way some of them were worded. As a result I probably ended up closer to the Progressive party than I feel I am. Maybe because my feeling is the government should do what it can to help everyone have a chance to succeed but it shouldn't actually do the work for anyone who needs the help. Help provide the opportunity, but they have to actually be able to do it and put in the work. There probably isn't a way to place that into these quizzes like that though.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Why would we consider parties people made up in their head rather than actual minor parties that often don't get votes because of the first past the post system.

 

[luvmyhawks]

About as I expected. Growth and opportunity. Close to the middle with a slight lean to the left.

You are closest to the Growth and Opportunity Party​

Can’t seem to get the graph pasted. Oh well.​

 

[IACub]

I could have sworn you were a Democrat this whole time too..

Typical MAGA, doesn't even know where fascism falls on this spectrum. (Hint, it's on the right.)

 

[BioHawk]

Why would we consider parties people made up in their head rather than actual minor parties that often don't get votes because of the first past the post system.

Because with the way our Congress and system of government is set up the two Big Parties swallow up all the minor parties which hold mostly similar values as the platforms of the major parties. The only real difference is how important they think certain issues are.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

I thought about adding that to the choices, but decided to stick with their list.

Evidently 49% of voters in the last election were anti-American fascists. Or worse.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

About as I expected. Growth and opportunity. Close to the middle with a slight lean to the left.

You are closest to the Growth and Opportunity Party​

Can’t seem to get the graph pasted. Oh well.​

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[Scruddy]

Typical MAGA, doesn't even know where fascism falls on this spectrum. (Hint, it's on the right.)

I know exactly who the fascists are. They're the ones who pushed Facebook to censor speech. I have a feeling you voted for them even.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Evidently 49% of voters in the last election were anti-American fascists. Or worse.

And that's just the ones who cared enough to vote.

 

[HawkeyeShawn]

Thought Growth and opportunity before taking the quiz. G&O party for the win!

 

[thewop]

The fact that one party is tied to a religion is utterly ridiculous.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

assuming the data is real, very interesting diagram.
i would've expected the data to be more vertically distributed along the middle (instead of roughly horizontal distribution). very surprising that the lowest corner is virtually unpopulated. also i would've expected much more of a smattering of christian conservatives and patriots in other locations. i suppose the way they've defined the parties generates neat separations.

Here's what they say about that

As Adams wrote in 1776, Congress “should be in miniature, an exact portrait of the people at large. It should think, feel, reason and act like them.”​

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What would that look like in 2025? How many parties would there be? To find out, we analyzed data from Nationscape, a large survey that polled hundreds of thousands of Americans on their political preferences. We used those answers to distribute voters among six hypothetical parties.​

That's not terribly clear. They may have looked for the clusters and then made up the names - or the other way around..

 

[IACub]

I know exactly who the fascists are. They're the ones who pushed Facebook to censor speech. I have a feeling you voted for them even.

God, you're an idiot.

 

[Scruddy]

God, you're an idiot.

Why do you support the party that censors Americans free speech?

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Because with the way our Congress and system of government is set up the two Big Parties swallow up all the minor parties which hold mostly similar values as the platforms of the major parties. The only real difference is how important they think certain issues are.

I don't know that they swallow up all the parties so much as they swallow up all of the votes.

For example the Green party is basically a party in most major democracies in some form or another. Yet in democracies with proportional systems they usually win some seats. In first past the post system most but not all of their voters support the major party that seems to care more about the environment.

Yet the above doesn't even mention the Greens.

It would make more sense if the actual existing minor parties were included.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

assuming the data is real, very interesting diagram.
i would've expected the data to be more vertically distributed along the middle (instead of roughly horizontal distribution). very surprising that the lowest corner is virtually unpopulated. also i would've expected much more of a smattering of christian conservatives and patriots in other locations. i suppose the way they've defined the parties generates neat separations.

Here's what those same data look like when split by traditional party affiliation. Clear polarity east to west, some decent overlap in the north and, as you point out, a wasteland the farther south you go.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Here's what those same data look like when split by traditional party affiliation. Clear polarity east to west, some decent overlap in the north and, as you point out, a wasteland the farther south you go.

If you look at Republicans in the top quadrant it kind of goes to show IMO how much the social issues play into this whole thing and how much it hurts the Dems to die on certain hills.

It is interesting also how comparatively few people fit into the economically conservative/socially liberal quadrant.

 

[BioHawk]

I don't know that they swallow up all the parties so much as they swallow up all of the votes.

For example the Green party is basically a party in most major democracies in some form or another. Yet in democracies with proportional systems they usually win some seats. In first past the post system most but not all of their voters support the major party that seems to care more about the environment.

Yet the above doesn't even mention the Greens.

It would make more sense if the actual existing minor parties were included.

Because Democrats push for most of the same policies the Green party does minus the really crazy ideas. Democrats actually have a shot to get policies written into law, the Green party does not. So many people who might vote for the Green Party vote for Democrats because they still are going to get most of what they want.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I don't know that they swallow up all the parties so much as they swallow up all of the votes.

For example the Green party is basically a party in most major democracies in some form or another. Yet in democracies with proportional systems they usually win some seats. In first past the post system most but not all of their voters support the major party that seems to care more about the environment.

Yet the above doesn't even mention the Greens.

It would make more sense if the actual existing minor parties were included.

I don't read too much into their names. My guess is that there's a lot of overlap among actual Greens and their Progressive and Populist parties. I would definitely expect a party or 2 to spring up in that quadrant. What they'd be called is another matter.

 

[BioHawk]

If you look at Republicans in the top quadrant it kind of goes to show IMO how much the social issues play into this whole thing and how much it hurts the Dems to die on certain hills.

It is interesting also how comparatively few people fit into the economically conservative/socially liberal quadrant.

I mean, it's always Republicans who are getting angry over social issues because they want to stop people from doing things. I bet if you had run this poll 100 years ago it would be the opposite because all the repression laws Republicans want were in place then.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

It is interesting also how comparatively few people fit into the economically conservative/socially liberal quadrant.

Agreed. At a guess, many socially liberal policies cost money, which turns off economic conservatives, even if they sympathize.

 

[jonesy5960]

You could dump me in the New Liberal Party or the left side of the Growth and Opportunity Party.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

No Christian Conservatives here?

Hard to believe.

Here's what the OP article thinks the House would look like if we had these 6 parties. Christian Cons outnumber Progressives and Patriots.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I mean, it's always Republicans who are getting angry over social issues because they want to stop people from doing things. I bet if you had run this poll 100 years ago it would be the opposite because all the repression laws Republicans want were in place then.

The repression laws are coming back. And the protection laws are going away.

Just like Jesus and the Founding Fathers intended (before they became a rock band).

 

[FAUlty Gator]

No Christian Conservatives here?

Hard to believe.

Here's what the OP article thinks the House would look like if we had these 6 parties. Christian Cons outnumber Progressives and Patriots.

I'd be sitting at about 3 minutes before midnight.