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Is the cult unraveling?
They slashed prices to move sales into 4Q. That in turn tanked used Tesla prices screwing over Tesla owners.
Margins were less than expected.
Their cars are also starting to look old.
$450 billion for a car company remains silly.
Its more reasonable now than 60% higher. 40-50 PE, personally I think there will be lots of compression in profits as margins decrease due to competition. I don't know, could do well, could go down. Where is Musk going to put his time and energy into? Good value dividend stocks and crypto stocks for growth is where I am hanging out.Big fan of Tesla. 2nd biggest holding in my cash account. @bunsen82 you like?
Interesting you mention this. As they becomes more popular I’ve really started to notice the homogeneity of the brand. It was neat when they were somewhat exclusive - kind of like owning a spaceship or something- but now as many as you see it’s like “Yeah, but everyone has the same spaceship.” As they become more popular there’s nothing special or unique about it.Their cars are also starting to look old.
Its more reasonable now than 60% higher. 40-50 PE, personally I think there will be lots of compression in profits as margins decrease due to competition. I don't know, could do well, could go down. Where is Musk going to put his time and energy into? Good value dividend stocks and crypto stocks for growth is where I am hanging out.
They are everywhere here (DFW), and yes, quite boring to look at.Interesting you mention this. As they becomes more popular I’ve really started to notice the homogeneity of the brand. It was neat when they were somewhat exclusive - kind of like owning a spaceship or something- but now as many as you see it’s like “Yeah, but everyone has the same spaceship.” As they become more popular there’s nothing special or unique about it.
I’m sure they have some serious redesigns in the pipeline, but how soon? I don’t follow Tesla car division. PF, you’re always up on Musks knob, what’s the forecast for redesigns?They are everywhere here (DFW), and yes, quite boring to look at.
honestly I am not a believer in mass battery run vehicles. The economics are just not there in my opinion. Its why I am indifferent to negative.
honestly I am not a believer in mass battery run vehicles. The economics are just not there in my opinion. Its why I am indifferent to negative.
It’s a great buy especially considering they produce the #1 EV in the world.Stock, that is... down 55% for the year.
A friend just got his Rivian. I wish that company would get its production in order because it’s a sweet looking ride.Interesting you mention this. As they becomes more popular I’ve really started to notice the homogeneity of the brand. It was neat when they were somewhat exclusive - kind of like owning a spaceship or something- but now as many as you see it’s like “Yeah, but everyone has the same spaceship.” As they become more popular there’s nothing special or unique about it.
Sorry, but I am not cramer. It is not to say TSLA can't or won't go up. However if TSLA is going up, I would fathom crypto currencies will go up just as much or more. They are affectively risk on trades.Sounds like TSLA is going to keep going up
What do you believe will replace the combustion engine then?honestly I am not a believer in mass battery run vehicles. The economics are just not there in my opinion. Its why I am indifferent to negative.
If republicans remain decently in control I think the engine will be around longer than most think due to the economics. Who knows though it’s not a stock I am attracted to and is far from my wheelhouse strategies of investing. They could continue to do well similar to Amazon. They could also really struggle similar to Netflix as more competition comes on line. I haven’t liked the stock for since the summer of 2021 and that call has been accurate. However, the price and fundamentals are in a place if the growth and margins can continue it will do well. For me that’s about as positive of a review as you will get on TSLA.What do you believe will replace the combustion engine then?
Very little has been updated aesthetically on the model S, and that released in 2012.I’m sure they have some serious redesigns in the pipeline, but how soon? I don’t follow Tesla car division. PF, you’re always up on Musks knob, what’s the forecast for redesigns?
Sorry, but I am not cramer. It is not to say TSLA can't or won't go up. However if TSLA is going up, I would fathom crypto currencies will go up just as much or more. They are affectively risk on trades.
Go check MSTR and MARA in the same time period. I know its all fun and games, but lets be realistic here. You have been in on TSLA for a long time the ups and downs and you are likely ahead. Its ultimately how are you going to invest and what the final numbers get for you. I am now only down 15% from my all time high overall. I am very happy with that, and back ahead of the indexes since 2021 even with some hits. Since 2019 I am sitting at 416.27% return on my cash account (yeah im ok with that) 208% retirement and 312% overall. Do whatever flips your trigger. Its pretty clear you will do that anyways. Good luck.LOL, I'm up 47% in TSLA in 2 weeks. Inverse Bunsen Strategy (IBS) pays off again.
Problem is if you’re towing anything of consequence you get about 70 miles per charge. Most people can’t take 6 weeks of vacation all at once which is what you would need if your pulling a large camper and boat.The Ford pickup is delivering now for early orders. Another batch of orders went in last week. Chevy is behind, but not THAT far. The $100k price point isn't that scary for truck buyers - the gas versions of similarly fitted trucks is already in that $80k range, and you can trick them out up to $100k. Pulling the Bronco, Blazer, Edge level of vehicle into the market will be a bigger deal, as those vehicles are a lot bigger market.
Go check MSTR and MARA in the same time period. I know its all fun and games, but lets be realistic here. You have been in on TSLA for a long time the ups and downs and you are likely ahead. Its ultimately how are you going to invest and what the final numbers get for you. I am now only down 15% from my all time high overall. I am very happy with that, and back ahead of the indexes since 2021 even with some hits. Since 2019 I am sitting at 416.27% return on my cash account (yeah im ok with that) 208% retirement and 312% overall. Do whatever flips your trigger. Its pretty clear you will do that anyways. Good luck.
My goal is within 2 years to take significant chunk out and just putting into ladder bond approach on the cash. Should create enough income for wife to live off each year if something were to happen to me. Then I will still have some to grow again, but you have to assess what risk you are willing to take, and in general I have more risk in my portfolio than most people are willing to take. So reduce the risk if it pays off and move on.
Problem is if you’re towing anything of consequence you get about 70 miles per charge. Most people can’t take 6 weeks of vacation all at once which is what you would need if your pulling a large camper and boat.
I am in heavy at $220 on mstr ( however had sold calls and bought puts earlier in the summer fall so basis around 150), had a nice rebound. I thought mara had taken too much of a hit at the end of december so dabbled there a bit. Depending how it goes, if bitcoin gets back above 60k and towards 80k I see MSTR over $1000.MSTR is probably my biggest winner ever. Check out my posts on it a couple years ago. My average buys were around $300 and sold at $1220. I've gotten in and out a few times since then. I actually have a few shares now. Bought around $220. I should have pulled the trigger around 170, but didn't.
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LOL, I'm up 47% in TSLA in 2 weeks. Inverse Bunsen Strategy (IBS) pays off again.
I was in MARA and by shares got called away by a covered call. Made some money but not as much as I wanted toGo check MSTR and MARA in the same time period. I know its all fun and games, but lets be realistic here. You have been in on TSLA for a long time the ups and downs and you are likely ahead. Its ultimately how are you going to invest and what the final numbers get for you. I am now only down 15% from my all time high overall. I am very happy with that, and back ahead of the indexes since 2021 even with some hits. Since 2019 I am sitting at 416.27% return on my cash account (yeah im ok with that) 208% retirement and 312% overall. Do whatever flips your trigger. Its pretty clear you will do that anyways. Good luck.
My goal is within 2 years to take significant chunk out and just putting into ladder bond approach on the cash. Should create enough income for wife to live off each year if something were to happen to me. Then I will still have some to grow again, but you have to assess what risk you are willing to take, and in general I have more risk in my portfolio than most people are willing to take. So reduce the risk if it pays off and move on.
The same thing happened to me in AR. Ended up with 150% return bit could have need up with so much more.I was in MARA and by shares got called away by a covered call. Made some money but not as much as I wanted to
EV’s have been around for what? 10 years or so. The technology will get there, it just takes time. For everyday driving EV is the way to go, especially if you get solar on your house and size your system correctly to offset your consumption you’re gonna save 1000’s a year.Problem is if you’re towing anything of consequence you get about 70 miles per charge. Most people can’t take 6 weeks of vacation all at once which is what you would need if your pulling a large camper and boat.
For larger vehicles or heavy loads it doesn’t work. The only EV trains your gonna see are Lionel.EV’s have been around for what? 10 years or so. The technology will get there, it just takes time. For everyday driving EV is the way to go, especially if you get solar on your house and size your system correctly to offset your consumption you’re gonna save 1000’s a year.