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Who won the Walz v Vance debate?

Who won?

  • Walz

    Votes: 47 25.0%
  • Vance

    Votes: 92 48.9%
  • Basically a tie

    Votes: 49 26.1%

  • Total voters
    188
Sorry. I don't think one's viewing of certain events or statistics under a certain lens qualifies as a lie. These fact checks are simply not persuasive that any of this meets the LIE threshold.

But saying one was in Tiananmen Square when they werent, or in combat when they werent, does.
I think you meant to reply to me. Can you give me an example how the fact checks were simply how someone viewed current events?
 
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What about Springfield?

He owned the moderators on this and made them look petty and biased. Ive grown tired of the media and I think we have found a candidate that isnt going to allow himself to be manipulated or defined by them. And that has to scare the crap out of them.

They know he's smarter than they are and it showed.

You have a candidate for President that is dumb AF and and VP who's awe shucks demeanor make him seem like he is.

We have a President in waiting now in Vance that will define the party for generations if this goes how I see it. Hell, right now, I kinda hope Trump loses to clear the way for a far better candidate in 2028. Problem is, in the meantime the world burns under a Kamala/Walz admin and we cant afford that.
You really are a moron. So when Trump loses (again) you don’t think that just maybe the Republicans might wake up and think it’s time to get away from the loser Maga people? Do you not understand why you guys continue to lose? Sure,run Vance again in 4 years. Keep bringing the Maga losers around. We love beating them.
 
Sorry. I don't think one's viewing of certain events or statistics under a certain lens qualifies as a lie. These fact checks are simply not persuasive that any of this meets the LIE threshold.

But saying one was in Tiananmen Square when they werent, or in combat when they werent, does.
I would think Gus, after 10 years of trump, you would be calloused to lies and misstatements. Accept Walz’s apology and move on…..ot continue your faux outrage that a politician could tell a lie/fib/untruth….but please remember your wold has a couple of liars itself.
 
I think you meant to reply to m?e. Can you give me an example how the fact checks were simply how someone viewed current events?
Umm, every single one of them?

Basically they are saying that the statements were incomplete. Of course they were. They have very limited time to make the points they are making. They dont have time to go into an entire explanation of every fact.

Point me to one thing Vance said that was a LIE.
 
Umm, every single one of them?

Basically they are saying that the statements were incomplete. Of course they were. They have very limited time to make the points they are making. They dont have time to go into an entire explanation of every fact.

Point me to one thing Vance said that was a LIE.
Why won't you respond to the questions about his lies made previously?
 
You really are a moron. So when Trump loses (again) you don’t think that just maybe the Republicans might wake up and think it’s time to get away from the loser Maga people? Do you not understand why you guys continue to lose? Sure,run Vance again in 4 years. Keep bringing the Maga losers around. We love beating them.
You're clueless. Really, Not an insult. I just think you don't get it.

Trump may win or may lose. I have no idea. Nor do you. You have your side, I have mine.

I believe that the Dems have to be scared as hell of Vance as he is head and shoulders above anyone the Dems have on the bench. Obviously, or they would be running now. Instead we have quite possibly the dumbest candidate to run for President ever in Kamala. You will never convince me she is either a leader or smart. She is neither. Now could she end up as President under the strangest alignment of planets ever? Yep. And I guarantee the US and world will be worse off if she is.
 
I would think Gus, after 10 years of trump, you would be calloused to lies and misstatements. Accept Walz’s apology and move on…..ot continue your faux outrage that a politician could tell a lie/fib/untruth….but please remember your wold has a couple of liars itself.
I dont disagree. I do accept his apology. Just as we need to stop calling every single thing that Vance says you dont fully agree with, a lie.

Can you agree with that?
 
I dont disagree. I do accept his apology. Just as we need to stop calling every single thing that Vance says you dont fully agree with, a lie.

Can you agree with that?
Why won't you respond to the questions about his lies made previously?
 
I dont disagree. I do accept his apology. Just as we need to stop calling every single thing that Vance says you dont fully agree with, a lie.

Can you agree with that?
I read his book, too…….more bullshit and lies. He is a miserable sumbitch, Gus…..damn near as miserable as Trump. Sometime Vance ought to try the truth….then perhaps maybe I will be able to compare.
 
I would think Gus, after 10 years of trump, you would be calloused to lies and misstatements. Accept Walz’s apology and move on…..ot continue your faux outrage that a politician could tell a lie/fib/untruth….but please remember your wold has a couple of liars itself.
How dare the people constantly calling the other side liars be held to any level of higher standards?
 
It is the President’s obligation to see immigration laws are enforced…

Correct,... So why is it that the Biden administration has to be continually pushed, prodded, & threatened into any movement towards addressing this necessary work?,.. It's phucking infuriating.
 
I read most of that thread. Chis was clearly worked up but I didn't see anything ban worthy.
What? He needed to go. His posts were adding nothing other than nastiness and namecalling. Way worse than normal even.
 
What? He needed to go. His posts were adding nothing other than nastiness and namecalling. Way worse than normal even.
Having seen some of those threads that went off the rails, let’s not argue this is one-way traffic from Chis.

I have no idea what happened in that other debate thread, but as the saying goes, it takes two to tango.
 
I'm going to wager that chis' issues stem from PMs with mods. The board has been more peaceful since he is out, which tells you all need to know. I truly feel he should be gone until a bit after the election is over for his own personal wellbeing.
 
Having seen some of those threads that went off the rails, let’s not argue this is one-way traffic from Chis.

I have no idea what happened in that other debate thread, but as the saying goes, it takes two to tango.

The VP debate clearly was going worse than Chis expected. His posts in that thread made less & less sense as the night went on. In one of his last posts (go back to the thread, linked below), he tagged @Hawkman98 , who had not posted in a week. Why do that? Hawkman98 responded, and really lit into him, as you can see.

So, let's not get crazy here and say Chis doesn't try to stir things up.

When you click below, it takes you to Chis' post, where he tags Hawkman98. And you can see what Hawkman98 wrote in return.

 
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The VP debate clearly was going worse than Chis expected. His posts in that thread made less & less sense as the night went on. In one of his last posts (go back to the thread, linked below), he tagged @Hawkman98 , who had not posted in a week. Why do that? Hawkman98 responded, and really lit into him, as you can see.

So, let's not get crazy here and say Chis doesn't try to stir things up.

When you click below, it takes you to Chis' post, where he tags Hawkman98. And you can see what Hawkman98 wrote in return.

Oh I certainly won’t deny that he likes to stir the pot.
 
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Oh I certainly won’t deny that he likes to stir the pot.

And don't forget; it's not just here where he is very active politically and where he goes after people.

A few examples:

(1) His personal Twitter account

(2) Facebook

(3) Other websites (posters have said many times that Chis posts on other websites but they never would say which websites; just that you knew it was him based on the content)
 
Having seen some of those threads that went off the rails, let’s not argue this is one-way traffic from Chis.

I have no idea what happened in that other debate thread, but as the saying goes, it takes two to tango.
I don't believe in banning or even the ignore feature. I will either respond to something or scroll past it.
 
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Vance would absolutely be preferable to Trump. It's hard understate how unqualified Trump is for this job.
At least Trump has been there. Unqualified would describe Kamala and Walz. I would take Vance over the bunch of them. So I am not voting for the first time ever. Trump will win Iowa anyway without it. I am scared for my kids and grandkids. All this discourse was started by Obama and he is still involved IMHO. Bunch of crooked power hungry politicians who beg for our votes so they can waste our hard earned dollars.
 
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I don't believe in banning or even the ignore feature. I will either respond to something or scroll past it.
I’ve only had to ignore two posters who are just so far beyond even Chis I just couldn’t with them even more.

Bonney back in ‘20 was getting close before he vanished.
 
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Having seen some of those threads that went off the rails, let’s not argue this is one-way traffic from Chis.

I have no idea what happened in that other debate thread, but as the saying goes, it takes two to tango.
I dont think so. He is off the rails. He gets it back for sure but hardly ever do people start it with him.

He needs to go. Period. Dude is messed up.

The ONLY reason some on here put up with him is that he does the work for many of you on the lib side. Unacceptable behavior is unacceptable no matter IMO.
 
I dont think so. He is off the rails. He gets it back for sure but hardly ever do people start it with him.

He needs to go. Period. Dude is messed up.

The ONLY reason some on here put up with him is that he does the work for many of you on the lib side. Unacceptable behavior is unacceptable no matter IMO.
If what he does is worth permanently banning, I can think of a dozen others that likewise deserve it.
 
If what he does is worth permanently banning, I can think of a dozen others that likewise deserve it.
Permaban seems like a slippery slope. If someone is posting private pictures, bearing false witness against another poster, or threating violence I'd consider a 30 day or even up to 6 months ban... maybe they come back, maybe they don't.

But like inside the game threads, emotions run HOT. I don't even visit the football board for a day or two after a game, especially a loss.
 
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This thread needs a reset:
 
Permaban seems like a slippery slope. If someone is posting private pictures, bearing false witness against another poster, or threating violence I'd consider a 30 day or even up to 6 months ban... maybe they come back, maybe they don't.

But like inside the game threads, emotions run HOT. I don't even visit the football board for a day or two after a game, especially a loss.
I’ve long had a 48 hour rule after a loss in any sport.
 
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