March 24, 2021 NY Times: Biden announces Harris is his Border Czar…
Who won the Walz v Vance debate?
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Margaret locked like a pale nasty tempered witch next to Norah O’Donnell. She needed a wardrobe person to tell her that outfit looked awful. It only made her behavior less ok worse,
Wardrobe aside,.. Margaret is normally very collected, but this wasn't one of her finer moments.
I thought the gal from the abc debate looked far worse with her oversized shoulder pads. She looked like she was wearing a gag costume from the movie "the mask" to me
Where was I factually incorrect? Did I say or imply he was a head coach? Any other reason for pointing this out other than being a douche?
Here's the March 24, 2021 NY Times article. Can you please highlight or underline the sentence proclaiming Harris the Border Czar?
Biden Names Harris to Work With Central America on Migration
WASHINGTON — President Biden said on Wednesday that Vice President Kamala Harris would lead the administration’s efforts to deter migration to the southwestern border by working to improve conditions in Central America, plunging her into one of the most politically fraught issues facing the White House.The president said he had directed Ms. Harris to oversee the administration’s plans to pump billions of dollars into the ravaged economies of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. She will work with the leaders of Central American governments to bolster the region’s economy in the hopes of reducing the violence and poverty that often drive families in those countries to seek refuge in the United States.
“While we are clear that people should not come to the border now, we also understand that we will enforce the law,” Ms. Harris said before a White House meeting with top immigration officials. “We also — because we can chew gum and walk at the same time — must address the root causes that cause people to make the trek.”
The announcement underscores the sense of urgency at the border, where the administration has struggled to move thousands of young migrants from detention centers meant for adults into shelters managed by the Department of Health and Human Services. Republicans, who have seized on the images to make a case that Mr. Biden’s immigration agenda is only attracting more people from the region, have vowed to put the issue at the center of their efforts to retake power in Congress next year.
Mr. Biden, however, has continued to use a pandemic emergency rule to rapidly turn away most migrants at the border. Even though an appeals court allowed the United States to resume expelling minors, Mr. Biden has elected to welcome them into the country, where they must be kept in custody until they can be released to sponsors.
For Ms. Harris, the diplomatic assignment is likely to be challenging. Previous efforts, including one led by Mr. Biden when he was vice president, were largely unsuccessful, as critics charged that corrupt leaders there had not effectively spent foreign aid money. In the years since, a majority of the families crossing the border have traveled from Central America, seeking economic opportunity, safety from gangs and reunions with family members already in the United States.
The effort by Ms. Harris to address the root causes of migration, which can take years, is also unlikely to quickly produce the swift action demanded by Republicans and some Democrats to reduce the overcrowding at the border. Representative Henry Cuellar, Democrat of Texas, released photographs this week showing dozens of young migrants lying on mats under foil blankets in crowded pods in a tent facility managed by the Border Patrol in Donna, Texas.
“The administration is struggling between the humane, softer approach as opposed to Trump and they have to calibrate and find that balance in enforcing the laws on the books and still projecting compassion,” Mr. Cuellar said after touring an overflow facility managed by the Department of Health and Human Services that was established to move children quickly from the border jails.
As of Monday, more than 4,800 children and teenagers were still stuck in detention cells intended to hold adults for short periods, including more than 3,300 held longer than the maximum 72 hours allowed under federal law, according to government documents obtained by The New York Times. On Tuesday, the number of minors in the border facilities increased to more than 4,960, according to data released on Wednesday by the Department of Homeland Security. The largest number of minors held this way under the Trump administration was about 2,600 in June 2019, according to current and former Customs and Border Protection officials.
@goldmom Here's the rest of the article:
The young migrants are supposed to be moved swiftly to shelters with recreational space and educational programs overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services before they are released to sponsors in the United States. Instead, they have spent an average of 136 hours — nearly six days — in the border jails, according to government documents.
Mr. Biden has struggled to find space for the young migrants approaching the border after only recently restoring shelters to full capacity despite the coronavirus pandemic.
As of Monday, nearly 11,200 minors were in the care of the Department of Health and Human Services, filling about 94 percent of readily available beds, according to the documents. The shelter system, which usually has nearly 14,000 beds, was until recently at restricted capacity because of the pandemic. The administration is now working to open more emergency facilities with the help of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
Mr. Biden has so far moved more than 1,000 young migrants to a temporary shelter at a convention center in Dallas and more than 300 to a facility at a former camp for oil workers. The United States could also soon move more of them to a temporary shelter at an expo center in San Antonio and another convention center in San Diego.
The Homeland Security Department also briefly considered flying migrants to the northern border to relieve pressure on South Texas, before deciding to limit the flights to other areas along the southern border and California, according to two homeland security officials.
The Defense Department on Wednesday also approved a request to house minors at Fort Bliss, Texas, as well as a vacant dormitory at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland in Texas, John F. Kirby, the Defense Department press secretary, said in a statement.
“I’m concerned about the well-being of these kids,” Senator Rob Portman, Republican of Ohio, said on Monday. “When the system gets overwhelmed, people, and especially the kids, suffer. And the processing system right now is overwhelmed.”
The administration has also faced criticism for limiting access to the border facilities to government officials. While Mr. Cuellar and other government officials, as well as one television crew, were allowed to tour the facility in Carrizo Springs, Texas, Mr. Biden has not allowed reporters to see the conditions inside facilities managed by Border Patrol.
Even as the administration focuses on long-term solutions to migration, the United States is projecting that the number of minors approaching the border will rise through the spring and summer, according to the government documents.
Ms. Harris acknowledged on Wednesday that “no question this is a challenging situation,” but said that she was looking forward to engaging in discussions with leaders of Central American countries.
The administration has restarted a program shut by the Trump administration that allows vulnerable families and children to apply for refugee status from the Central America region and proposed billions in foreign aid to address the poverty and corruption in the area.
Mr. Biden dispatched a special envoy of top officials this week to the region to engage foreign leaders on ways to curb the surge, a trip that was cut short after volcanic ash blanketed an airport in Guatemala, according to a White House official.
Mexico has also deployed additional security forces to its border with Guatemala after weeks of quiet pressure from the Biden administration.
For Ms. Harris, the diplomatic assignment is one of the first in a portfolio of responsibilities that aides said would expand in the months ahead. They noted that Mr. Biden, as vice president under President Barack Obama, had been in charge of working to improve conditions in the same Central American countries.
The task is likely to be a difficult one.
In the past several years, Guatemala and Honduras kicked out independent agencies that were investigating graft and have been rocked by corruption scandals that reach the highest levels of government. El Salvador’s president has faced sharp criticism by rights groups for abuses during the pandemic and caused unease in Washington over shows of force involving the military.
The young migrants are supposed to be moved swiftly to shelters with recreational space and educational programs overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services before they are released to sponsors in the United States. Instead, they have spent an average of 136 hours — nearly six days — in the border jails, according to government documents.
Mr. Biden has struggled to find space for the young migrants approaching the border after only recently restoring shelters to full capacity despite the coronavirus pandemic.
As of Monday, nearly 11,200 minors were in the care of the Department of Health and Human Services, filling about 94 percent of readily available beds, according to the documents. The shelter system, which usually has nearly 14,000 beds, was until recently at restricted capacity because of the pandemic. The administration is now working to open more emergency facilities with the help of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
Mr. Biden has so far moved more than 1,000 young migrants to a temporary shelter at a convention center in Dallas and more than 300 to a facility at a former camp for oil workers. The United States could also soon move more of them to a temporary shelter at an expo center in San Antonio and another convention center in San Diego.
The Homeland Security Department also briefly considered flying migrants to the northern border to relieve pressure on South Texas, before deciding to limit the flights to other areas along the southern border and California, according to two homeland security officials.
The Defense Department on Wednesday also approved a request to house minors at Fort Bliss, Texas, as well as a vacant dormitory at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland in Texas, John F. Kirby, the Defense Department press secretary, said in a statement.
“I’m concerned about the well-being of these kids,” Senator Rob Portman, Republican of Ohio, said on Monday. “When the system gets overwhelmed, people, and especially the kids, suffer. And the processing system right now is overwhelmed.”
The administration has also faced criticism for limiting access to the border facilities to government officials. While Mr. Cuellar and other government officials, as well as one television crew, were allowed to tour the facility in Carrizo Springs, Texas, Mr. Biden has not allowed reporters to see the conditions inside facilities managed by Border Patrol.
Even as the administration focuses on long-term solutions to migration, the United States is projecting that the number of minors approaching the border will rise through the spring and summer, according to the government documents.
Ms. Harris acknowledged on Wednesday that “no question this is a challenging situation,” but said that she was looking forward to engaging in discussions with leaders of Central American countries.
The administration has restarted a program shut by the Trump administration that allows vulnerable families and children to apply for refugee status from the Central America region and proposed billions in foreign aid to address the poverty and corruption in the area.
Mr. Biden dispatched a special envoy of top officials this week to the region to engage foreign leaders on ways to curb the surge, a trip that was cut short after volcanic ash blanketed an airport in Guatemala, according to a White House official.
Mexico has also deployed additional security forces to its border with Guatemala after weeks of quiet pressure from the Biden administration.
For Ms. Harris, the diplomatic assignment is one of the first in a portfolio of responsibilities that aides said would expand in the months ahead. They noted that Mr. Biden, as vice president under President Barack Obama, had been in charge of working to improve conditions in the same Central American countries.
The task is likely to be a difficult one.
In the past several years, Guatemala and Honduras kicked out independent agencies that were investigating graft and have been rocked by corruption scandals that reach the highest levels of government. El Salvador’s president has faced sharp criticism by rights groups for abuses during the pandemic and caused unease in Washington over shows of force involving the military.
Thanks for posting the article.
If you’ll note the part where Biden says that the VP would LEAD the Administration efforts to “curb migration” (love that phrasing) I think it says what it needs to say…blurbage about Border “Czar” aside.
I presume- not being too generous in assuming the ability of the average poster on here to comprehend the point - the discussion is over.
If you’ll note the part where Biden says that the VP would LEAD the Administration efforts to “curb migration” (love that phrasing) I think it says what it needs to say…blurbage about Border “Czar” aside.
I presume- not being too generous in assuming the ability of the average poster on here to comprehend the point - the discussion is over.
How cute! They’re coming over to a summer camp with recreational facilities. How nice!
When they vacate maybe we can house the homeless and get them shelter. You know, the American citizens sleeping on our streets.
Well, the disagreement is really about cons insisting that Kamala would be charge of fixing the border itself. She wasn’t, Biden sent her to work with the Central American countries to attempt to slow or stop the flow from th source.
And hey. Illegal border crossings have dropped significantly the las few months…
If you can’t figure that out you should sign up for an online course in “How to grow up and become a cynic”.
Just back up your claim or quit with the Border Czar bs. Biden never named her border czar, Republicans did.
Most of the immigrants I know work harder than our home grown Americans. I watched the guys putting in rural fiberoptic internet near me and guess who was digging the 6 ft deep holes in the gravel road to run the cables on a 90 degree day? Immigrants.
My mother's parents both immigrated to the US separately as teenagers from Sweden. They married bought a farm and raised 4 kids. Immigrants are the reason America exists. Yes, we need to have more efficient ways of dealing with the influx, but villainizing them is shameful especially since most of us are decedents of immigrants.
No, it hasn't. Not one person can find an article or a quote of Biden naming Harris "Border Czar." It never happened.
She was asked to work with Central America on the root causes of migration. Harris was not put in charge of the managing the border.
The obsession with the term Border Czar is at the end of the day small potatoes. What matters is that she was given a job by her “direct report” and she didn’t succeed at it.
Giving someone a nickname isn’t a new practice. Ask the Bad Orange Man.
Oh- and
We’re not “decedents” we are descendants.
I am a bad speller. So are you admitting that Harris wasn't appointed Border Czar?
Best case, Trump didn't care that his supporters were trying to overthrow the government.
Worst case, he lead them to try overthrowing the government.
Either way, there is no way he should ever become president again.
She was given the task to find root causes of more migrants. Not to prevent them. She has zero power for the latter task.
Gohawks…it isn’t worth the waste of breath discussing “the border” with Trumpanzees. Their minds are made up and it’s all Biden’s fault….and Harris is the border czar! As long as they have their talking points and their “issue don’t need a solution….just a way to carry on their racial warfare and their claim that America under Democrats has become a third world nation.
You might as well piss into the wind as discuss anything with goldy, Rico, rifler and co. Save your breathe. Thee folks are Trumpers and are looking to support a man who wants to destroy America and return to colonies back to Mother England.
I bet your grandparents came to America legally, right?
So did mine. I have never met or spoken to anyone who denies that people like them are what built this country. And I agree we need immigration and people who come here legally to work hard and take advantage of opportunities they’d never have elsewhere.
The enormous influx streaming across now are overwhelming the current immigration system and the absolutely frightening number of people with serious criminal backgrounds bringing in drugs, sex crime convictions and gang affiliations who are filtering in with the majority of folks who just want a better life is not safe for the rest of us. If you cannot see that then I am afraid for you. And afraid for America 🇺🇸
Yeah - but you know , you understand what I’m getting at don’t you?
I’ve never been hung up on calling her Czar of anything. It’s an insult to Czars.
My grandparents were healthy and had relatives in the US. I don't believe there were many requirements besides being disease free to enter the US in the early 1900s. I know they didn't speak English. They learned when their oldest child started school. Even when I was a kid they would still speak in Swedish to their relatives.
The mythical tie between immigration and crime
Research by Stanford’s Ran Abramitzky and co-authors uncovers the most extensive evidence to date that immigrants are less likely to be imprisoned than U.S.-born individuals.
I see people on here saying, "well, what can the Vice President do?"
Well, as the person in charge of the border, VP Harris could have made recommendations to the President, who then could have issued executive orders to address the border crisis. Instead, 85% of the migrants who got in were allowed to stay.
Why did it take until just recently, in a Presidential year, for those executive orders to be issued? I think every honest Democrat (oxymoron?) even knows the answer to that question.
Here is the AP story from over 3 1/2 years ago (March 24, 2021):
Biden taps VP Harris to lead response to border challenges
President Joe Biden has tapped Vice President Kamala Harris to lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern border.
apnews.com
Yeah, it couldn’t possibly have to do with it being a complex issue, and Biden attempted to work with Congress for genuine reform…
TL;DR Summary (Opinion):
In the debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz, Vance was widely seen as the winner. Both candidates maintained a civil and polite tone, unlike other contentious debates in the campaign. Vance came across as warm, detailed in his policy responses, and successful in appealing to key voters, particularly women, while shaking off past criticisms of being "weird."
Walz, on the other hand, appeared to struggle. He stumbled over his words, missed opportunities for key attack lines, and even admitted to "misspeaking" about his presence during the Tiananmen Square massacre, which damaged his credibility. His performance was compared to President Biden’s occasional confusion, and his reliance on pre-scripted attacks did not land effectively against Vance's more measured responses.
Vance demonstrated a strong command of the issues, particularly on topics like border control, linking the crisis to fentanyl, which resonated with working-class voters. Walz's responses felt outdated and ineffective in comparison. While vice-presidential debates don't typically sway elections significantly, this performance could hurt Walz's image in the eyes of key voters, giving Vance a clear advantage.
Full Article: https://www.yahoo.com/news/won-vance-v-walz-debate-030331156.html
In the debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz, Vance was widely seen as the winner. Both candidates maintained a civil and polite tone, unlike other contentious debates in the campaign. Vance came across as warm, detailed in his policy responses, and successful in appealing to key voters, particularly women, while shaking off past criticisms of being "weird."
Walz, on the other hand, appeared to struggle. He stumbled over his words, missed opportunities for key attack lines, and even admitted to "misspeaking" about his presence during the Tiananmen Square massacre, which damaged his credibility. His performance was compared to President Biden’s occasional confusion, and his reliance on pre-scripted attacks did not land effectively against Vance's more measured responses.
Vance demonstrated a strong command of the issues, particularly on topics like border control, linking the crisis to fentanyl, which resonated with working-class voters. Walz's responses felt outdated and ineffective in comparison. While vice-presidential debates don't typically sway elections significantly, this performance could hurt Walz's image in the eyes of key voters, giving Vance a clear advantage.
Full Article: https://www.yahoo.com/news/won-vance-v-walz-debate-030331156.html
Yahoo just republishes articles from other sources. This one is originally from The Telegraph which has a strong right wing bias. I'm not dismissing their opinion, but I think it's important when reading Yahoo articles to recognize the original source.
Daily Telegraph (UK) - Bias and Credibility
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In early August of this year, 6 Democrats recognized Kamala Harris as the border czar.
In early August the House voted on a resolution containing these exact words (where 6 Democrats voted for it): “strongly condemning the Biden administration and its border czar, Kamala Harris’s, failure to secure the United States border....”
LOL
You conveniently ignored the facts in my post.
Again, the facts: 6 Democrats voted for the resolution that said in writing that Kamala Harris was the border czar.
I know you cannot accept reality because you are a Democrat, but....
I recognize it. Just posting to the thread w/o personal opinion or bias. Yahoo essentially serves as my RSS feed...well, that and HBOT.Yahoo just republishes articles from other sources. This one is originally from The Telegraph which has a strong right wing bias. I'm not dismissing their opinion, but I think it's important when reading Yahoo articles to recognize the original source.
Daily Telegraph (UK) - Bias and Credibility
RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may
As usual, you're wrong.
Vice President Kamala Harris was assigned a role related to the U.S.-Mexico border, but she was not explicitly referred to as the "border czar." In March 2021, President Joe Biden tasked Harris with leading diplomatic efforts to address the root causes of migration from Central America, particularly focusing on countries like El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. The goal was to address the underlying issues—such as poverty, violence, and corruption—that drive migrants to seek asylum in the U.S.
This role was more about diplomatic engagement and root-cause strategy rather than overseeing day-to-day border operations or enforcement. Harris herself made it clear that she was not in charge of border security or managing immigration at the border, responsibilities that remained under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its sub-agencies like Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
The characterization of Harris as the "border czar" is mostly a political label used by critics and some media outlets, but her official responsibility was focused on addressing migration's root causes in Central America.
On March 24, 2021, President Biden announced that Vice President Kamala Harris would be tasked with leading the diplomatic efforts to address immigration challenges at the U.S.-Mexico border, focusing on the root causes of migration, particularly from Central American countries like Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras. While some media outlets, including Axios, referred to her as a "border czar," the administration emphasized that her role was not to manage the entire border crisis but rather to work on long-term diplomatic solutions to migration issues. Harris herself clarified that she was focused on root causes, not day-to-day border management, which remained under the jurisdiction of other officials like Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.
There was some confusion in public discourse regarding her title and role, partly because of the scope of her assignment in tackling migration issues and the border crisis simultaneously.
