Yep isu grad showing off his wonderful isu "education". What is next "I know you are but what am I?" Or will he go to the "My dad can beat up your dad" card.
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Why does it bother ISU fans that some Iowa fans aren't alumni?
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Yep isu grad showing off his wonderful isu "education". What is next "I know you are but what am I?" Or will he go to the "My dad can beat up your dad" card.
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I read somewhere that they have had on their roster 2 iowa high school graduates in 9 years. Could that be???
There are plenty of Iowa fans who did not attend Iowa who have spent more on season tickets, travel, merchandise etc. than students have paid in tuition. So are these not real fans? There are students that have no concept of Iowa athletics. Are they true fans just because they attended Iowa but never attended one sporting event?
Didnt read the whole thread, but will give my opinion. I have no problem with fans that didnt graduate or attend Iowa. Some ISU fans bring it up because that is what rivals do. They try to find anything they can to make themselves feel superior to their rival. I don't like it and many on the ISU board agree.
Additionally, nobody should get crap for being a fan of the school they attended. I have had random Iowa fans ask me how I could be a fan of ISU. Nobody needs to justify their fandom.
I grew up in Iowa City, 2 blocks from Kinnick. Had intentions of going to Iowa, but the Air Force called and I never made it back to Iowa City for school. Got my degrees at 3 other schools (AAS, BS and MA). Even while in Air Force stationed near St Louis, made it back to many, many football games between 1980 and 1993. Being a Hawkeye is in my blood. Have no love for isu.
How pathetic is isu grad if all they have to feel superior about is how their fans are all grads?
Almost as low as enrollment smack.
I think it is ridiculous that they feel like you have to graduate from Iowa to be a fan...Make no mistake about it though, I love when they tell me 'I bet you didn't go to Iowa' and I get to respond 'Yeah, actually I did'. They shut up pretty quickly. I guess they didn't realize some of us in the DM metro actually got a degree there.
Actually, alumni are students that attended a school, graduation is not a requirement.
Well, I'm sorry sir. When you chose to go fight for our country you gave up your rights to cheer for the Hawks.
And for those that seem to struggle with these things that was clearly sarcasm. Thank you, KH
My favorite is the ISU fan who get pissy about Iowa fans who didn't go to Iowa...but it's ok for him to be this HUGE Packers fan even though he never lived in Wisconsin.
You can all use me freely as an example of a fan that didn't attend the university.
P.S. I ALSO did not attend Siena College. Duh-Duh-Duhhhhhh!!!!
P.S. I ALSO did not attend Siena College. Duh-Duh-Duhhhhhh!!!!
100, JWR, whoever you are these days, good to see you are back! How many times can you respond to one thread. That's right, it's you, responding is your whole life. Some things don't change.
A few things I find amusing about this thread:
- Anyone who picks a school based on how good that school is in sports (who doesn't play sports), is an idiot. So if you went to Iowa in the '80's and feel superior to someone who went to ISU in the '80's, because Iowa was better in football during that time, you have issues. Many older Iowa grads are arrogant or feel superior for that exact reason. Sad and pathetic.
- If you grow up in Iowa, and got into one school, you likely could have gotten into the other. There's 100 different reasons to pick a school, it's not like one school is ivy league or light years better than the other, so you can quit acting like it. No, Iowa is not Stanford, it's not Notre Dame, it's not even Michigan. ISU is none of those either, but they are both very good schools.
- If you didn't go to Iowa, or even go to college, but root for them, fine. But I think it's fair to get called out for that if you deserve it (e.g. if you call ISU a community college, make fun of ISU for being an Ag school (ANF anyone???), ask those that went to ISU (and actually got a degree) why would they go there, etc.). So don't be that way.
- Whoever is comparing being a Packers fan (a pro team with a national brand, that you didn't spend a good portion of your life attending, or paying tuition to, or getting a degree from, etc.), to being the same as being a fan of a college you didn't go to... that comparison makes no sense. Apples and oranges.
- Iowa may have more fans because of their football success in the '80's, and now many of those fans have had kids and grandkids, etc., so yes Iowa has more fans (congrats!), but you're obviously worried. Or threads like this wouldn't exist on your boards. And get the most views and responses. The 2nd most viewed thread was last nights ISU-KU thread. You may make fun of enrollment smack, but now that ISU is bigger than Iowa, putting out more alumni than Iowa, consistently beating Iowa often in major sports, etc., we can sense you are worried.
You can have your tavern hawk fans, your easy Big 10 schedule in every sport, your lame Carver arena, you can try to act like you help farmers on your football helmets, while at the same time making fun of the Ag school in the state that actually helps farmers, and you can try to act like you don't care about ISU, or that Iowa is a better school, or has better fans, but deep down you know it's not true. And that bothers you. Almost as much as that 20 point comeback in basketball. Which makes me happy.
Thanks for the laughs in this thread though.
- Anyone who picks a school based on how good that school is in sports (who doesn't play sports), is an idiot. So if you went to Iowa in the '80's and feel superior to someone who went to ISU in the '80's, because Iowa was better in football during that time, you have issues. Many older Iowa grads are arrogant or feel superior for that exact reason. Sad and pathetic.
- If you grow up in Iowa, and got into one school, you likely could have gotten into the other. There's 100 different reasons to pick a school, it's not like one school is ivy league or light years better than the other, so you can quit acting like it. No, Iowa is not Stanford, it's not Notre Dame, it's not even Michigan. ISU is none of those either, but they are both very good schools.
- If you didn't go to Iowa, or even go to college, but root for them, fine. But I think it's fair to get called out for that if you deserve it (e.g. if you call ISU a community college, make fun of ISU for being an Ag school (ANF anyone???), ask those that went to ISU (and actually got a degree) why would they go there, etc.). So don't be that way.
- Whoever is comparing being a Packers fan (a pro team with a national brand, that you didn't spend a good portion of your life attending, or paying tuition to, or getting a degree from, etc.), to being the same as being a fan of a college you didn't go to... that comparison makes no sense. Apples and oranges.
- Iowa may have more fans because of their football success in the '80's, and now many of those fans have had kids and grandkids, etc., so yes Iowa has more fans (congrats!), but you're obviously worried. Or threads like this wouldn't exist on your boards. And get the most views and responses. The 2nd most viewed thread was last nights ISU-KU thread. You may make fun of enrollment smack, but now that ISU is bigger than Iowa, putting out more alumni than Iowa, consistently beating Iowa often in major sports, etc., we can sense you are worried.
You can have your tavern hawk fans, your easy Big 10 schedule in every sport, your lame Carver arena, you can try to act like you help farmers on your football helmets, while at the same time making fun of the Ag school in the state that actually helps farmers, and you can try to act like you don't care about ISU, or that Iowa is a better school, or has better fans, but deep down you know it's not true. And that bothers you. Almost as much as that 20 point comeback in basketball. Which makes me happy.
Thanks for the laughs in this thread though.
You were doing so well until that last paragraph and then the full blown LBS came out.
Edit: With love from an Iowa student
Iowa has been Big Bro since 1847. isu has been sucking since 1858. Clearly isu grad can't handle that. All they are left with is select and limited small periods of time. Clearly isu grad can't handle the truth.
Hey isu grad, when will the bogus SOS for the Texas Ten ever equate to them living up to their rankings in the post season?
Anyone wan to bet isu grad won't answer the question?
You could almost imagine the steam coming from his ears and his fingers trembling as he got to that last paragraph!
Hey I remember him. He was the one with the other isu grads trying to design those fail switches while Iowa grads and interns did the real work. Being an Iowa intern at the time I worked on programs for the Space Shuttle, B1b and the E2C Hawkeye.
Your brother was the typical isu grad, except he always wore his "isu is finer with Criner" t-shirt on casual Friday.
This alone is worth keeping ANF alive forever.
Hayden Fry being an OG troll in so many ways adds to my appreciation of having him for so many years.
It has finally become apparent to me that you truly are a disturbed individual.
There it is again. isu grad simply can't handle he truth. Does your bro still live in Cedar Rapids and work for Rockwell Collins? It must really piss him off that there are so many Iowa grads in Senior Management.
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This is an interesting thread. I am 46 and grew up in NW Iowa. My wife also grew up in NW Iowa and her parents and two brothers are involved in farming. I always assumed the reason a lot of ISU alums get upset was because of so many farmers being big Hawk fans in the 1980's, even if a number of them went to ISU. That absolutely killed many of the farmers I grew up working for.
It absolutely kills me that her two brothers, who are great guys, will pull out the whole "most Iowa fans didn't go there" when neither one of them graduated or went to ISU. I think one of their wives did but that is bootstrapping. I love that when they rant that to me because I actually graduated from Iowa. One brother-in-law went on a twitter rant about Iowa having ANF on their helmets. I asked him why that was a bad thing for Iowa to have that message and all he could come back with was that ISU was the AG school and had more programs.
I don't care if you went to a school and became a fan. Everyone has their reasons for being a fan and as stated above should choose the school for what it offers to them. Am I less of an Iowa fan, if I chose to go to a smaller school because I still wanted to play a sport but wasn't good enough for division 1? Is being a fan because you watched Hawk games with your dad growing up less valid then becoming a fan while not going to games while you attended ISU or Iowa? This argument is so stupid because it really all boils down to I don't like Iowa and will therefore come up with any stupid reason to try and tear it down. I understand some of this because Iowa fans are condescending to ISU but it is still a totally bs argument.
It absolutely kills me that her two brothers, who are great guys, will pull out the whole "most Iowa fans didn't go there" when neither one of them graduated or went to ISU. I think one of their wives did but that is bootstrapping. I love that when they rant that to me because I actually graduated from Iowa. One brother-in-law went on a twitter rant about Iowa having ANF on their helmets. I asked him why that was a bad thing for Iowa to have that message and all he could come back with was that ISU was the AG school and had more programs.
I don't care if you went to a school and became a fan. Everyone has their reasons for being a fan and as stated above should choose the school for what it offers to them. Am I less of an Iowa fan, if I chose to go to a smaller school because I still wanted to play a sport but wasn't good enough for division 1? Is being a fan because you watched Hawk games with your dad growing up less valid then becoming a fan while not going to games while you attended ISU or Iowa? This argument is so stupid because it really all boils down to I don't like Iowa and will therefore come up with any stupid reason to try and tear it down. I understand some of this because Iowa fans are condescending to ISU but it is still a totally bs argument.
isu grad has a logical reason to go with AHF shirts. They Adore Hayden Fry.
Keep up the great work isu grads.
Kind if proves the little brother syndrome, right? Having to post to validate why something is thought to be. Maybe you should join the discussions on CF about Ferentz/McCaffrey, Jon Miller/Chris Williams or Who the best player in the state is. Some of the biggest threads going right now.
I love it. isu grad states confidently and forcibly that they don't have LBS and then proceed to prove otherwise with their posts. Long live cry-clown fanatic.
This is just too much fun.
I guess Clowfangonna cry will emphatically tell John Walters he can't be an isu fan because he graduated from Drake. Pollard better fire Johnny boy from cry-clown TV as well. Can't have a Drake grad in charge of that right?
Let us all know how that works out for you.
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No, he never worked for Rockwell Collins. The Govt contract for telecommunications is with Raytheon. Raytheon subcontracts the work to the company that my brother started.
When I was an intern at Rockwell Collins in the mid to late 1980's they were the worlds largest supplier of secured phones including the White House. As stated it was entertaining to watch isu grad chase their tails.
Your posts fit exactly with isu grads I have encountered in the past.
Something you should be very, very proud of!
I don't know if it's actually the fact that so few Hawk fans are UI grads that bothers some ISU fans, although they unquestionably make derisive comments about "Tavern Hawks" who couldn't find Iowa City with a map and a native guide. Personally, I'd love it if a majority of ISU fans never went to school there, as that would mean there would be a lot more ISU fans, and more fans is good. I think it is reason for UI fans to take pride in, as Notre Dame fans do (not comparing the two).
I think it's more likely that what irks some ISU fans is the pronounced bandwagon factor of the Iowa fans. Just look at attendance; if Iowa isn't winning, it drops off markedly. That's true everywhere, of course, but it's relatively less true at ISU than at Iowa. And it's reasonable to think that one of the reasons for this is that a larger percentage of ISU fans have ties to the university that go beyond cheering for its athletics teams.
Does this mean ISU fans, as a group, are "better" fans than Iowa fans, as a group? In some ways, of course not. But a case can be made that in some ways, yes.
The supplier of govt(including white house) secured phones in the 80s was with a company called Electrospace. The company changed hands a few times and ended up a part of Raytheon.
There is a distinct difference between being a fan and being an alum. But what are you so butt hurt about? Does it hurt your feelings that your mechanic who spent 6 years at Kirkwood cheers for the Hawks instead of the Cyclones?
Yet the largest supplier of secured phones in the 1908's was Rockwell Collins. Just as the most advanced communications devices in the world at the time also came from Rockwell Collins.
It was fun to watch isu grad chase their tail though. Also nice to see isu grad keeping the tradition alive and well.
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