Why does it bother ISU fans that some Iowa fans aren't alumni?
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Could it be possible that there are more ISU grads that are ISU fans, percentage wise, because Ames is in the middle of an agriculture state and is an agriculture school, whereas Iowa City is on the east side ofr Iowa next to Illinois and a lot of Iowa's students are from Illinois?
Also, I have always wondered if they check everyone's ID at Hilton when they enter and make them show their ISU Graduate ID card. I wonder if they do that at Jack Trice too.
Also, I have always wondered if they check everyone's ID at Hilton when they enter and make them show their ISU Graduate ID card. I wonder if they do that at Jack Trice too.
Actually you need to bring a copy of the isu diploma to gain entrance to isu facilities unless you say you are supporting the visiting team then they simply harass you.
So some Iowa fans are bandwagon fans because the team was doing poorly and they didn't show up to make a point that they wanted changes? Or are ISU fans just better because they'll sit through losing seasons in football.
Nope just enjoy watching isu grads chase their tails. Maybe you can tell us all what **** Iowa means and why it is posted so often on cry-clown fanatic by isu grads.
Will you be asking isu grads that post it if they are 12? Let us all know, I can't wait to see the reaction from fellow isu grads.
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isu grad is better because they say so. Sitting through 3-9 or worse football seasons is what being an isu grad is all about.
I don't post on CF but I don't understand why you always bring it up on here. If you have a problem with it why don't you post it on there instead of pollute every thread on this site
CyCity, I challenge you to review the Clone threads started here and count the number of responses by 100(Herkyfan). Then look at the responses and count the number that say the same thing over and over. I will bet you will be amazed.
I bring up cry-clown fanatic because they proudly state they are the biggest web site for isu grads. So posts and threads on cry-clown fanatic are representative of the wonderful isu culture.
Making fun of how isu grads behave is highly entertaining. Why would I want that to stop? I am so glad cry-clown fanatic exists. Long live cry-clown fanatic. isu grads love how it portrays them. Am I right?
It truly is hilarious how they bash non-alums as part of Iowa's fan base. As if the ISU Athletic Dept (as opposed to the fringe fans that spout this crap), which is desperate to have more FB ticket sales at cheap prices, doesn't want an expanded fan base. An expanded fan base which would put more butts in the seats, generate more TV eyeballs which attracts higher paying sponsors, and increase retail sales of team related clothing and other items which all generate royalties. All the above would allow them to fund more non-revenue sports. They think Jamie Pollard does not want this expanded revenue???
Keep in mind that we're talking about an athletic dept that had to drop baseball and other sports because they can't afford it. ISU has been the only conference member without baseball for God knows how long. It's absolutely ridiculous how they bash the fact that retail stores in this state (their favorite target is 'WalMart Shoppers') carry more Hawkeye stuff on the shelves, or that apparently people that frequent taverns prefer the the Hawkeyes. It's such an ignorant envious mentality.
Keep in mind that we're talking about an athletic dept that had to drop baseball and other sports because they can't afford it. ISU has been the only conference member without baseball for God knows how long. It's absolutely ridiculous how they bash the fact that retail stores in this state (their favorite target is 'WalMart Shoppers') carry more Hawkeye stuff on the shelves, or that apparently people that frequent taverns prefer the the Hawkeyes. It's such an ignorant envious mentality.
I will go out on a limb and say nobody cares about your thoughts on "cry-clown fanatic" so I don't understand why you pollute every thread with it
I challenge any isu grad to go through threads on cry-clown fanatic and count how many 6 year old posts they find. Then of course you can compare that to how many posts I have.
Clown fan gonna cry are you in? Cy city how about you? Isu80 you in? Kinky will sign up won't he?
Naw they will ignore. Ignoring the isu culture is just how isu grad rolls.
Simple it is how isu grads behave. Cry-clown fanatic is at the core of the isu culture.
You must be so proud to be associated with such individuals.
I have honestly never heard that. Of the four guys/families I tailgate with, it's about 50/50 grads/non-grads. And the most passionate Hawk fan I know did not attend. I have zero problem with that. Frankly, I think schools should be proud as it shows otherwise-neutral people see something in the Hawks they want to be a part of. You think all Notre Dame fans went to school there? Fans of the "U" in the 80's and 90's? Duke basketball? Nebraska fans (treading lightly here)?
Colorado did not have baseball either.... Just for your info. I know that may damage the point you are making...... Oh well
I don't know about him, and it doesn't bother me, but yes, that's an example of what bothers a significant number of ISU fans.
But I think it's safe to say that what bothers them most is the number of UNI students who are Hawkeye fans.
I read through this thread with an attitude of "here we go again" and truly had no intention of jumping in until I read this post.
I take issue with anyone asserting that "so few Hawk fans are UI grads" as a fact. As posited, you insinuate that it is a fact that there is an overwhelming majority of Hawkeye sports fans that possess a degree from the University of Iowa. If you have some data to back up that purported fact, I would be very interested in reading it. While it is surely speculation on my part, I'm guessing that you won't be able to back up your assertion. Pure speculation and conjecture on your part.
Moreover, even if it is true that a small percentage of Hawkeye sports fans, possess a degree from the University of Iowa, what does it matter? My father was the Head Photographer for the Daily Iowan in the late 1960s. However, a newspaper interviewed him on-campus and offered him a job and he took the job before graduating. Does that mean that he shouldn't be a Hawkeye fan? Of course not, that's just silly. I'm pretty sure that my assistant's cubicle has no more room for anything more cardinal-and-gold or with Cy on it. She never went to Iowa State. Yet, she is at every football game, attends basketball games in person and never misses games on TV. Should she not be a Cyclone fan? Again, that's a ridiculous assertion. One of my very good friends who now lives outside the state grew up a Cyclone fan because her father was a veterinarian. She did not go to ISU. She went to a Pac 10 school (back when it was the Pac 10). However, because of the culture in which she was raised, she lives, breathes and sleeps ISU sports. Is that wrong? Hell no. That's an integral part of her very being. It would be nothing short of stupid for anyone to suggest that she shouldn't root for the Cyclones.
Growing up in a small town in northeast Iowa, my Dad taught me the Iowa Fight Song when I was 3 years old. I wore black-and-gold at every opportunity. I sat in front of a radio on Saturdays to listen to football games (I can still hear Ron Gonder's voice in my head); our house came to a standstill on Thursdays and Saturdays to watch Hawkeye basketball and listen to Bob Hogue scream "Oh my!" Neither my Dad nor my Mom had a degree from Iowa. Was it wrong for me to love the Hawkeyes? To get excited to hear about Pete Gales scoring a TD? To feel betrayed when Lute Olson left for Arizona (yeah, I was young)? To lose my mind in excitement when Steve Waite propelled Iowa to the Final Four? To be in the stands on October 19, 1985 when Houghlin kicked his game winning FG as #1 Iowa beat #2 Michigan? To interview Ronnie Lester as a then-inspiring sports journalist? Did my "right" to become a fan begin in 1990 when I walked across the stage at CHA and had Hunter Rawlings hand me my diploma? C'mon . . . that's sour grapes talking.
Here's my thought on the issue. Without pro sports, it is natural for football fans in this state to pick a favorite team. And, let's face it, before the current television/cable/satellite environment, the biggest exposure to college sports on Saturdays was via radio. And, from what I understand, WHO in Des Moines started broadcasting University of Iowa athletics in the 1940s. It is also my understanding and belief that WHO was the biggest blower in the state (and still may be). In fact, I thought that I read somewhere that WHO may have had one of the biggest blowers in the country for some time. Thus, most of the largest population centers in the state (Des Moines, Dubuque, Waterloo, Cedar Rapids, Quad Cities) would have been getting access to Iowa games via the radio. Is there truly any wonder why there are almost certainly more Iowa fans in this state than ISU fans? It is deep seated. Its no different than why you have so many Braves fans and Cubs fans scattered throughout the country . . . TBS and WGN via cable. Its what subscribers could watch. Iowa got the coverage; Iowa State didn't. Not saying that its right. Not saying that it is just. Simply saying . . . it is what it is.
Perhaps the internet and availability of streaming games will change that dynamic somewhat. I truly doubt it.
As for your opinion that Iowa fans are "bandwagon" fans, give me a freaking break. That Iowa fans don't support the team unless it is winning? Bull----. From what I can find on-line, ISU set its attendance record in 2013 when it averaged 55,361 fans per game. Among the many years that Iowa had better per game attendance than ISU's record year are 1960, 1961, 1963, 1973, 1976 and 1977. That's right, in the midst of an 0-11 season, Iowa generated crowds, on average, of greater than 56,000 people. Attendance fluctuates for many reasons besides winning and losing. Ticket cost, availability of games on TV, kick-off times, etc. Are there bandwagon Iowa fans? Yes. Without question. Were there ISU fans who loved ISU basketball because of Hoiberg and who will be less "rabid" when ISU has the inevitable "down" season? Yes. Without question. Any suggestion that Cyclone fans are more loyal or somehow better because they walked the hallowed halls of buildings on ISU's campus is, in my opinion, ill-reasoned.
Colorado isn't in the same conference but you probably didn't know that. How can you be a Clown while living in Texas?? I get that Iowa fans live all over the world/country but you can't be a TRUE Clown unless you live in Iowa. Are you one of those poser Clowns?!
So ridiculous..... guess people like PGA player Zach Johnson aren't true Hawkeye fans either, eh? That dude bleeds Black and Gold and went to another school. Cyclowns, check out his twitter handle and let us know if he isn't a real fan.
isu student that is a Hawk fan should probably fear for their life then.
The best response is that John Walters the voice of isu athletics and clearly a clown homer can't be a real isu fan because he graduated from Drake as well.
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On the flip side, I've had a few non-alumni Iowa fans tell me that just because I have a graduate degree from the University of Iowa doesn't mean I'm a Hawkeye since I'm also a life long ISU fan and did my undergrad at ISU. This amazes me. I think the degrees that cost me a crap load of money give me the right to cheer for both of my alma maters.
At the end of the day, its just sports. Who gives a f-k who someone else supports.
At the end of the day, its just sports. Who gives a f-k who someone else supports.
Personally, I find that it adds something having gone to the U of I and lived in Iowa City.
I don't think it makes me a better fan. That's such a nebulous concept that it has little meaning anyway.
I do know that I loved living in Iowa City and being a life long Hawk fan was entirely entwined in that. I'm really looking forward to retirement when I plan to move back there and take advantage of all that IC and the U of I has to offer. Not just sports.
I don't think it makes me a better fan. That's such a nebulous concept that it has little meaning anyway.
I do know that I loved living in Iowa City and being a life long Hawk fan was entirely entwined in that. I'm really looking forward to retirement when I plan to move back there and take advantage of all that IC and the U of I has to offer. Not just sports.
Go tell isu grads who get pissy at anyone who cheers for Iowa other than a Iowa grad.
I honestly cannot think of one time any Iowa State grad I know has expressed that sentiment to me. Maybe some Rivals posters think that way, but judging an entire fan base off based on its on-line fan base gives a pretty skewed perspective.
cry-clown fanatic calls themselves the on-line country club for isu fans. I think it is very representative of how the isu fan base acts. In fact what is on display there daily isn't all that different than how the isu AD acts publicly.
Must we ignore everything that shines the light on the isu culture? Will that help isu grad feel better?
I better be careful, Jamie might attack me on Twitter. Or maybe he reserves that for isu grads/donors.
Wow! Well then, if Colorado also didn't have baseball, I guess that totally destroys my point that the ISU Ath Dept (as with all Ath Depts) has clear and obvious revenue incentive to increase the fan base by attracting as many non-alums as they can get - as opposed to the uber biased CyFan fringe who simply don't get it. Go ask Pollard if it's true that ISU doesn't want any non-alums donating, buying Cyclone gear, following on TV, buying tickets, or otherwise polluting your alleged pristine purebred fan base. And especially when it comes to any non-alums who happen to be indigent WalMart Shoppers or who frequent taverns. What's your best guess on what his answer would be? Huh?
This guy is a Tavern-Clone. Went to Grandview. Might be the only one, but gave $500,000 to the 2007 ISU "Take The Next Step" campaign. It helped in hiring Rhoads and McDermott, so money well spent. Do you Clone fans accept him? He'd probably REALLY be pissed if you didn't.
And, when all is said and done, I'm betting good money that there are a ton of Longhorn fans who do not possess a degree from the University of Texas. Yet, it is that particular population and fan base which is driving the proverbial "revenue bus" for the Big 12 and which is most responsible for fattening the coffers of Big 12 Athletic Department budgets, including the one in Ames. So . . . instead of being pissy about who has the right to root for whom . . . perhaps it would be better to be thankful for the fact those fans and the contribution that they make to the ISU Athletic Department.
If Texas and Oklahoma bail on the Big 12, the balance of the Big 12 will be scrambling to find replacement schools with a huge fan base to replace those revenues or to join conferences populated with team with a huge fan base to replace those revenues.
And, yes, I fully understand that Iowa benefits from the fan bases of its B1G brethren.
Hey now isu grad won't accept anyone pointing out how fellow isu grads behave. It simply must be ignored.This guy is a Tavern-Clone. Went to Grandview. Might be the only one, but gave $500,000 to the 2007 ISU "Take The Next Step" campaign. It helped in hiring Rhoads and McDermott, so money well spent. Do you Clone fans accept him? He'd probably REALLY be pissed if you didn't.
They were just a few years back there Rocky Mountain smoker. It may be elementary school for some here, but not that many years.
He is a Clone fan. That is great, but he is not a Cyclone.This guy is a Tavern-Clone. Went to Grandview. Might be the only one, but gave $500,000 to the 2007 ISU "Take The Next Step" campaign. It helped in hiring Rhoads and McDermott, so money well spent. Do you Clone fans accept him? He'd probably REALLY be pissed if you didn't.
Explain how that puts isu in greater stead having dropped baseball and men's swimming/diving (?)
How many schools can you name that offer fewer opportunities (scholarships) to student-athletes than does isu?
Now we have moved from talking about Iowa fans that aren't grads, to talking Colorado baseball? Sweet. Not that it has anything to do with this thread, but I think dropping baseball also had something to do with Title IV, if you know what that is.
So you are saying, you went to Iowa and are an alum with a decent job that most with college degrees have. You are in a local bar in small town Iowa, and sitting next to you is a drunk 50 year old guy wearing ISU gear from the 70's. You are wearing Iowa gear and wanting to catch a game, and he turns and starts ripping on the University of Iowa and everything it stands for. Starts saying Iowa is little brother, sucks at all sports, can't believe you spent time in Iowa City, what a crappy town, blah blah blah. Finally you get a word in and ask when he went to ISU or spent time in Ames, and he says he didn't go there and has never been to Ames. That wouldn't bother you, and you wouldn't call him out on that? Or let's say he had Alabama gear on and did the same thing. He just decided to be a Bama fan one day but had no ties to there. But he's making it seem like he's better than you for wearing his Bama hat and t-shirt. That wouldn't bother you?
This sounds like an unusual or made up situation, but it happens WAY more than you think, only the other way around.
Hopefully Pollard clarified that before accepting his check.
Zach served as an honorary captain for Iowa football this past fall. He handed the Claret Jug Trophy to the KId Captain for that game during the halftime ceremony on the field that day.
To somehow try to deny or even diminish the fact that Zach Johnson is a very proud fan of the Iowa Hawkeyes is simply burying one's head in the sand.
