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Why Is Everything Liberal?

Oh and also 99.95% of public education and universities are under liberal ideological control.
So educated people, people who cover politics (journalists), people who work in science, people who work in arts and entertainment, people who work in academia, people who work in sports, people who work in the public sector all want and prefer progressive/liberal policies and only those on government (you said congress and the SCOTUS are the last bastions of “conservatism)?

Well, gee, seems to me that A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS prefer that and so that is how we should be governed! Isn’t that how democracy works? 🤔
 
I don't understand the reference. I don't bring up Trump in front of most of these blue people I talk about because it ruins the mood no matter what we're doing. THEY bring him up.

I usually try and change the subject by saying "if y'all would have listened to me and voted for Gary Johnson none of this would have happened".

I was referring to your comment that it's you who usually says something about Biden and presumably Trump because.... it's funny. I wonder if part of the issue is that what you think is funny isn't shared.

Political jokes by funny people sometimes don't land, political jokes by unfunny people are even harder, is the gist of what I was getting at.
 
I was referring to your comment that it's you who usually says something about Biden and presumably Trump because.... it's funny. I wonder if part of the issue is that what you think is funny isn't shared.

Political jokes by funny people sometimes don't land, political jokes by unfunny people are even harder, is the gist of what I was getting at.

You made the mistake of assuming I do it with Trump also. Which I don't because, again, they get wildly pissed off and angry. I will say stuff to my red friends like "did you have a watch party for the state of the union address by your bestie Biden?" and they laugh and say something along the lines of 'f*ck that socialist prick! Need a beer?' as they just move on with their lives. Everyone likes it as it's friendly banter.

Mentioning Trump to my family doesn't result in friendly banter. It results in a shit mood for the rest of the occasion and, frankly, that's childish and dumb. My left friends, mostly family, let politics run their lives. I also don't want them to start talking about 'white privilege' so I don't bring it up. I have had two different family members message me on FB (dumb in the first place) about how I need to recognize my 'white privilege'. I don't even hardly use FB so it was completely random. Politics run their lives. It's sad.

EDIT: My red friends f with me also about Gary Johnson. It's friendly banter.
 
You made the mistake of assuming I do it with Trump also. Which I don't because, again, they get wildly pissed off and angry. I will say stuff to my red friends like "did you have a watch party for the state of the union address by your bestie Biden?" and they laugh and say something along the lines of 'f*ck that socialist prick! Need a beer?' as they just move on with their lives. Everyone likes it as it's friendly banter.

Mentioning Trump to my family doesn't result in friendly banter. It results in a shit mood for the rest of the occasion and, frankly, that's childish and dumb. My left friends, mostly family, let politics run their lives. I also don't want them to start talking about 'white privilege' so I don't bring it up. I have had two different family members message me on FB (dumb in the first place) about how I need to recognize my 'white privilege'. I don't even hardly use FB so it was completely random. Politics run their lives. It's sad.

EDIT: My red friends f with me also about Gary Johnson. It's friendly banter.
If your “red friends” think Biden is a socialist, they are morons.
 
If your “red friends” think Biden is a socialist, they are morons.

Maybe, maybe not. That's not the point.

I agree Biden isn't a socialist and I think they would also agree with that. Again, friendly banter.

If that's all you took from this thread, you need some help. Maybe Chris can help you understand how to look at things objectively.
 
You made the mistake of assuming I do it with Trump also. Which I don't because, again, they get wildly pissed off and angry. I will say stuff to my red friends like "did you have a watch party for the state of the union address by your bestie Biden?" and they laugh and say something along the lines of 'f*ck that socialist prick! Need a beer?' as they just move on with their lives. Everyone likes it as it's friendly banter.

Mentioning Trump to my family doesn't result in friendly banter. It results in a shit mood for the rest of the occasion and, frankly, that's childish and dumb. My left friends, mostly family, let politics run their lives. I also don't want them to start talking about 'white privilege' so I don't bring it up. I have had two different family members message me on FB (dumb in the first place) about how I need to recognize my 'white privilege'. I don't even hardly use FB so it was completely random. Politics run their lives. It's sad.

EDIT: My red friends f with me also about Gary Johnson. It's friendly banter.

Gotcha, it sounds like your red friends share your sense of humor. The way you were describing what you say, and the examples that you have shared, and the posts you make here, made it seem unlikely that others would find your humor funny or amusing.

That's all I was wondering about, but it sounds like you have friends that enjoy your banter.
 
Maybe, maybe not. That's not the point.

I agree Biden isn't a socialist and I think they would also agree with that. Again, friendly banter.

If that's all you took from this thread, you need some help. Maybe Chris can help you understand how to look at things objectively.
Again, I have zero problem maintaining friendships with conservative leaning friends who share the actual reality based world we live in. Idiots who say shit like “Biden is a socialist” or “Trump is a Nazi” I will not hang out with, because I don’t hang with morons.
 
I don't have a single friend/family member who I would consider today's conservative (meaning a die hard Trumper) that is ever happy. They are always pissed off about something the imagine is being done to slight them.

A few of my blue friends/family are similar, but overall they are far happier and more relaxed.

The biggest difference that I can find, those I know who are red watch a TON of cable news (guess which channel) and those who are blue are watching sitcoms, sports, whatever else.

This is my experience. The Trump Republicans I know are total rage machines, especially in my rural Iowa hometown. Many of the left wing types I know can whine and complain about various things, especially Trump, but they aren't raging like the hardcore Trump Republicans.
 
Thoughts on this? Some highlights; while this country is about 50-50 liberal vs. conservative, liberals tend to donate more and protest more, i.e., they care more about politics, which leads to entities becoming more liberal.

Liberals also tend to care more about politics in regards to their friendships; i.e., it's tougher for a liberal to be friends with a conservative than vice versa.

I'd say there are points in the article that I see play out on this board; for some I'd go so far as to say have an unhealthy obsession with politics.


It's not 50/50 . . . the Republicans have won the popular vote one time since Bush the elder was elected.

And quite frankly given that people with college degrees are now suddenly all voting liberal as well as people with medium to medium high incomes are trending liberal. Businesses know where their bread is buttered.
 
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I have a lot of family and friends from both sides of the isle and, as far as I can tell, the red friends are generally happier. And by happier, I mean they're the ones that, again as a general blanket statement that is not applicable to everyone, don't get bent out of shape so easily about little shit or shit they cannot control.

A lot of my blue friends seem angry at society in general and go off the deep end over a LOT of stuff they have no control over or just the slightest thing.

Many of my blue friends cannot stand the thought of Trump, anything republican, etc. and get very angy/upset.

My blue friends don't like the thought of Obama/Biden, anything democrat, but they'll, generally, just say "guys an idiot" and move on.

I find this strange.
Exactly the opposite perspective.

Conservatives don't know how to have a conversation without Fear and Rage. Immigrants. LBGTQ. Muslims. Election "fraud". BLM. How "persecuted" they are on social media (a message which, ironically, I can't seem to escape on social media)
 
Trump did not catch on with the conservatives in my family for the most part. I think some of them may not have voted for him in 2020 (no way they voted for Biden). I have a cousin who never voted before (eligible since 2000 or 2002) voting for Trump in 2016 and regretting it who's now kinda like our family's chis. That is a person to look out for, someone born before 1982 who was apolitical before 2016. That person is going to have some strange opinions.
 
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I think part of it depends on age, and how into politics people were before Trump. The “Red Rage” seems more present in older folks. In the younger people, I find it in those that didn’t give a damn about politics until Trump. Somehow, he convinced them that he was going to fight for them where nobody else has.
 
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I will say Trump devotees are a different breed. And I will say they're more of the Facebook friends that I've had to put on ignore. But they seem less political and more susceptible to conspiracy.

I was shocked and dismayed by the Capitol storming; I confess I was completely oblivious to all that QAnon stuff going on. Couldn't even tell you what that was about before 1/6.
 
I think part of it depends on age, and how into politics people were before Trump. The “Red Rage” seems more present in older folks. In the younger people, I find it in those that didn’t give a damn about politics until Trump. Somehow, he convinced them that he was going to fight for them where nobody else has.

I'm with you. The older Republicans I know are the rage, fear and "end of America" types. Angry all the time. The younger Republicans I know were mostly clueless on politics prior to Trump and now they are the folks who still have the "F$CK YOUR FEELINGS" and "NO MORE BULLSH!T" and Trump Train signs and flags still hanging up, on their vehicles, wear MAGA hats and just want to "own libs" at every turn.
 
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I will say Trump devotees are a different breed. And I will say they're more of the Facebook friends that I've had to put on ignore. But they seem less political and more susceptible to conspiracy.

I was shocked and dismayed by the Capitol storming; I confess I was completely oblivious to all that QAnon stuff going on. Couldn't even tell you what that was about before 1/6.
And this is the point many of us are trying to make.

As a lifelong progressive that has lived in some conservative places (Bettendorf Iowa, for example) I have long rubbed shoulders, broken bread and yes - talked politics - with conservative leaning folks. Always enjoyed it, even when things got passionate.

But the Trump cult issue has almost nothing to do with politics. It is about being disgusted and discouraged that an objectively amoral, foolish, dangerous buffoon has captured the soul of 40 percent of what was once a legitimate American political party.
 
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Jesus Christ are you two seriously trying to score points against each other about which team, red or blue, is happier? When did we become a society of 16 year old girls?

This thread proves that both sides are mirror images of each other

No kidding on both of these. Truly shocking that one would feel the people that align with them are happier then proceed to argue about it with the other side. This thread is awesome.

My belief. If your life is so revolved around politics that you really give a shit about this, you are a pretty miserable person.
 
No kidding on both of these. Truly shocking that one would feel the people that align with them are happier then proceed to argue about it with the other side. This thread is awesome.

My belief. If your life is so revolved around politics that you really give a shit about this, you are a pretty miserable person.
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I'm with you. The older Republicans I know are the rage, fear and "end of America" types. Angry all the time. The younger Republicans I know were mostly clueless on politics prior to Trump and now they are the folks that still have the "F$CK YOUR FEELINGS" and "NO MORE BULLSH!T" and Trump Train signs and flags still hanging up, on their vehicles, wear MAGA hats and just want to "own libs" at every turn.
I hate to throw loved ones under the bus... but my parents have completely transformed. They have supported some truly great people that were also Republican politicians. The allegiance to Trump, I just don’t get it. Bob Dole, Mitt Romney, John McCain, GWB 1... numerous others who acted with and deserve respect, but Trump is the one that is getting white masking tape changing the last “0” in 2020 to a “4”? Huh?
 
1. Liberals control 95% of media.
2. Liberals control 100% of Hollywood/ entertainment
3. Liberals control big corporations. The ones they don't control will eventually get cancelled unless they bow to the woke liberal culture mob.
4. Liberals are slowly gaining control over sports. Watch ESPN for 30 seconds.

The two things the liberals don't fully control...
1. The U.S. Senate - Liberals are currently passing laws to add states to gain permanent control.

2. U.S. Supreme Court - Liberals are currently looking to add just magically enough new members to gain control for probably for the next 50 years.
The hyperbole is strong with this. If liberals were as fully in control of all this like you claim - pretty sure conservative media is a tad more than 5%, Fox News alone...., then conservatives would be truly screwed.
 
Exactly the opposite perspective.

Conservatives don't know how to have a conversation without Fear and Rage. Immigrants. LBGTQ. Muslims. Election "fraud". BLM. How "persecuted" they are on social media (a message which, ironically, I can't seem to escape on social media)
Yep. My experience on social media is that conservatives are constantly aggrieved and posting political memes and rants about such issues, and that liberals are more likely just to post cat videos and clips of their favorite musicians. My more liberal family members and friends almost always avoid engaging their more conservative friends at all on political issues, for fear of damaging relationships. That is just my experience, but it is a daily one.
 
The hyperbole is strong with this. If liberals were as fully in control of all this like you claim - pretty sure conservative media is a tad more than 5%, Fox News alone...., then conservatives would be truly screwed.
I can name 10 liberal media outlets without even thinking about it. Liberals can only name Fox News.
 
I can name 10 liberal media outlets without even thinking about it. Liberals can only name Fox News.
Oh, come on. OANN, Newsmax, the Blaze, Breitbart, the Onion (oops, tough to tell the difference at times). I always laugh at complaints about "the media" and Hollywood reflecting some liberal conspiracy or stranglehold. Nothing is precluding conservative voices from starting their own outlets. My personal, admittedly overgeneralized perception is that liberal people are more likely to be interested in the arts, teaching, and writing, while conservative people are more interested in finance, sales, and the trades. That may have caused what some perceive to be an imbalance. Nothing is precluding anyone from changing this.
 
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Oh, come on. OANN, Newsmax, the Blaze, Breitbart, the Onion (oops, tough to tell the difference at times). I always laugh at complaints about "the media" and Hollywood reflecting some liberal conspiracy or stranglehold. Nothing is precluding conservative voices from starting their own outlets. My personal, admittedly overgeneralized perception is that liberal people are more likely to be interested in the arts and writing, while conservative people are more interested in finance and the trades. That may have caused what some perceive to be an imbalance. Nothing is precluding anyone from changing this.

Red State, Wall Street Journal... 311 is being very dishonest here. Not to mention several of the top rated cable “news” programs are from Fox in particular.
 
If your “red friends” think Biden is a socialist, they are morons.

Before the Orange Turd's reign, Fox News and Limbaugh's campaigns, wing nuts nitwits never heard of socialism. Shit, they still have no idea what it is or what it means. Throw out a mean sounding buzz word, and they're all in.
 
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Thoughts on this? Some highlights; while this country is about 50-50 liberal vs. conservative, liberals tend to donate more and protest more, i.e., they care more about politics, which leads to entities becoming more liberal.

Liberals also tend to care more about politics in regards to their friendships; i.e., it's tougher for a liberal to be friends with a conservative than vice versa.

I'd say there are points in the article that I see play out on this board; for some I'd go so far as to say have an unhealthy obsession with politics.


Because conservatives sold out to MAGA.
 
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Before the Orange Turd's reign, Fox News and Limbaugh's campaigns, wing nuts nitwits never heard of socialism. Shit, they still have no idea what it is or what it means. Throw out a mean sounding buzz word, and they're all in.

Yep. Imagine a world where public libraries and k-12 schools didn't exist. Can you imagine ideas like that getting thru Republicans in Congress today?

"OMG, what if people borrow books and don't bring them back?"
"Buildings, teachers, lunches? Don't you Libs realize how much all of this is going to cost?"
 
We need more media members talking about how great all-white basketball teams would be. Then people like you would love the media. Next season may be tough for you, a lot of the white guys from last years Hawks team are gone.
To be fair, in the context of things, a truly great all-white starting 5 championship-winning basketball team would probably be more of an unbelievable feat than what Texas Western did back in the '60s.

In the '60s, black athletes just weren't given the opportunity.

Today, everyone (knows, lets be honest with ourselves) assumes an all-white starting 5 is not only going to get mocked (which they did), but will ultimately always fail against much better athletes especially when considering the fact that it would take the perfect storm in this day and age, anyway, for any major D1 program to have 5 truly good/serviceable white starters be the best players they can put out on the floor.....and then proceed to win a championship of some kind.

Iowa came the closest of any such team in years, and we all know how sharply we fell off the cliff by the end of the year (not that I'm saying it was simply because we were starting 5 white guys).........


Btw, I could not find the last time a CBB team won an NCAA Championship with an all white starting 5, in the limited research I did. The last all-white team was California in 1959...............
 
Add it to the big liberal majority!

Shit, the war’s over Lebowski, and this time the Libs have won! 😂
Last I checked, the Dims lost seats in the House in '20 and it's basically a standoff in the Senate. So, where's that big majority you speak of? BAU from you, Tory.
 
Again, I have zero problem maintaining friendships with conservative leaning friends who share the actual reality based world we live in. Idiots who say shit like “Biden is a socialist” or “Trump is a Nazi” I will not hang out with, because I don’t hang with morons.

Unfortunately, my mother (no pics) is a "Trump is a Nazi" person. So is my aunt (no pics).
 
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