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Winder, GA - haven't had a school shooting thread in a while

Dad is not what you might call “gifted” and Mom is a drug addled POS with active warrants.
This kid was obviously not getting driven to church or Boy Scouts.
I have sympathy for the kid, but a lot of people have shitty parents and upbringing and 99% of them don't shoot other people. I'm glad parents are starting to be charged when their child does these things.
 
Democrats focus on the kids dying in school because there is a long history showing that republicans believe that kids on the streets being murdered by guns are minorities so they don't care. They don't care about kids getting killed in school either it turns out. But we thought that there might have been a chance.


If it makes you feel better believing this then so be it. But it’s a crock of crap.

Dims don’t care about solving the issue. If they did, maybe they’d put their focus where the real problem lies, in inner city areas.
 
I have sympathy for the kid, but a lot of people have shitty parents and upbringing and 99% of them don't shoot other people. I'm glad parents are starting to be charged when their child does these things.
I agree with you and it just baffles me. And angers me no end.
 
Democrats focus on the kids dying in school because there is a long history showing that republicans believe that kids on the streets being murdered by guns are minorities so they don't care. They don't care about kids getting killed in school either it turns out. But we thought that there might have been a chance.
Neither one or the other cares or doesn’t care. We agree on many things but not this.
As long as your kids are safe and you and your family live a safe existence you are just grateful period.
 
It should give certain people a moment of reflection that the solution for gun violence is to practice cowering in fear in a class room. These are the same people who insisted kids be pushed back into crowded classrooms during Covid because they were worried about losing educational development. So, okay to practice cowering in fear doesn't stunt educational growth?
And it’s connected how?
It isn’t.
 
And it’s connected how?
It isn’t.
You'd have to think about it for a second and think in something other than a purely linear, ideological fashion. So, over your head, I guess.
 
You'd have to think about it for a second and think in something other than a purely linear, ideological fashion. So, over your head, I guess.
You’re hilarious but that’s some creative work on your part.
I occasionally enjoy pretzels too, though🥨
 
Ground up into hamburger? Come on now. Let’s just be honest here, you’re in favor of punishing women for having sex and if the resulting baby is the one who pays the most it’s an acceptable consequence.
The funny thing is that I’m not pro abortion. I would have called myself staunchly pro life until a few years ago. Mostly because I was naive as to the situation of far too many women. Women who are in relationships and don’t have the power to say no to sex. Who have finally found a way to leave an abusive situation and a pregnancy resulting from sex they didn’t want would tie them to their abuser forever. Those women can’t give up their babies for adoption because the abusive asshat won’t sign off on it. There are men who use this as an additional way to control women. I learned to mind my own business because I can never fully understand a situation I’m not in.
As for my boys, I don’t know what my reaction would have been. They are all adults with full time jobs now so they wouldn’t be coming to me to fund abortions. But I want my grandchildren/future grandchildren to be born to 2 parents who love and want them. But even with my kids it’s not my business how that comes about now that they are adults.
Yes ground into hamburger. Stop whitewashing this. I agree with your points to an extent but have you ever seen an abortion? Have you ever seen a baby at 10 weeks outside a mother? I have. Have you seen a baby move on ultrasound at 6 weeks? I have.

If a woman has been forced into sex that's rape and that's an exception to many state laws.

I'm against killing a viable pregnancy because one had sex willingly and ended up pregnant. I get it that many gray areas exist here. For that reason I favor morning after access otc. All women know when they have had sex and options exist that don't include vacuuming out a living baby at 15 weeks.

I like the situation as we have it. States and voters get to decide. I'm don't favor a nationwide ban unless its like 15 weeks and then states decide if they want more strict rules below that. With the normal exceptions.
 
So where’s the (important) part that happens or USED to happen where the MAN (who is 50% of the baby making process) asks if the woman is on the pill or if he needs to put on a condom or even just pull out????
I’m pro-choice but it just seems like now stupid girls have bought into the BS “oh baby i want to feel you” crap that men/boys say?
Doesn’t matter cause she could get “rid of it” easily or she became a Baby Mama and guess who ends up paying?
Responsibility is such a cute and quaint idea.
Agreed. And is completely lacking these days

I'm for mandatory DNA testing at birth and compulsory child support for the father. I'd suspect this would decrease the tendency of alot of guys to be irresponsible.
 
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Dad is not what you might call “gifted” and Mom is a drug addled POS with active warrants.
This kid was obviously not getting driven to church or Boy Scouts.
So what is your legislative solution to make this better?
 
What is giving access? If the gun is locked away and the kid breaks in to retrieve it is that in your opinion giving access to it?

What about parents of gang members who know their kid belongs to a gang? Shouldn't they be indicted?
Question 1, no.

Question 2, not if they are not helping in their activities or being giving them access to guns.
 
Letting them continue to be gang members is certainly helping in their activities, isn't it?

Knowing they have access to guns would be the same as giving them access, wouldn't it?
Question 1, no.

Everyone in the US has access to guns if they want to steal one or buy one illegally.
 
If you buy your teenager a car and they get caught drinking and driving... are the parents responsible for that too? Thought your 16 year old was a work but they were actually at a party
 
If you buy your teenager a car and they get caught drinking and driving... are the parents responsible for that too? Thought your 16 year old was a work but they were actually at a party


You are merging too many variables and inputs into your what if to get to your desired answer....... That is called a strawman fallacy you are making, but, if we break it down into the important variables.....

If you buy your teenager a car and they use the car for it's intended use, are the parents criminally liable? No, the intended use of a car doesn't impact anyone.
If you buy your teenager a car and they use the car in a reckless manner, but no one else is involved, are the parents liable? No, likely not unless the law prohibits this kid from driving and the parents suspected the kid WOULD violate...
If you buy your teenager a car and someone else supplies alcohol, and drinking and driving occurs, then likely the someone who supplied a minor should be held liable for violation of law (e.g. supplying to a minor)
If you buy your teenager a car and then supply the alcohol, and a drinking and driving occurs, then yes, the parents should likely be held liable for negligence as well as violation of law (supplying to a minor)
If you buy your teenager a car, supply the alcohol, and a drinking and driving occurs as well as an accident that causes great bodily harm and death to someone else, then yes, the parents should be held liable for negligence as well as violation of law (supplying to a minor). Esp when the govt said, your child should not be driving a car. And history does show this to be true. THIS, is the situation that this shooting is best represented by.

Your strawman has too many flaws to be taken seriously. Namely.... (if I remember some of the preshooting events correctly)
  • Is the car being used for its intended purpose (just driving) and that would equate to taking a gun to the range to shoot paper. The expected use of a firearm is NOT to enter a panned firearms zone and then shoot unarmed teenagers.
  • The additional illegal activities (planning a homicide or becoming inebriated) are NOT part of the normal usage.
  • Who contributed to the secondary illegal negligent steps?
  • The parent ignoring flags and warning signs.
  • The parent circumventing issues raised by governing agency
Ultimately, your what about is wrong.
 
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So, you're only in favor of "white parents" being held responsible is that correct?
You don't think white kids are in gangs?

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