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WSJ: Why Is Inflation So Sticky? It Could Be Corporate Profits

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Inflation has proved more stubborn than central banks bargained for when prices started surging two years ago. Now some economists think they know why: Businesses are using a rare opportunity to boost their profit margins.
Figures released Tuesday by the European Union's statistics agency showed consumer prices in the eurozone were 7.0% higher than a year earlier in April, a pickup from March and more than three times the European Central Bank's target. However, the core rate of inflation—which excludes food and energy prices—edged down to 5.6% in April from a record high of 5.7% in March.
Inflation rates also remain uncomfortably high in the U.S. and many other parts of the world despite interest-rate rises that have gone further and been delivered more quickly than at any time since the 1980s.
There have been good reasons for businesses to raise their prices in recent months. The supply-chain disruptions caused by the Covid-19 pandemic and the energy, food and raw-material bottlenecks that followed Russia's invasion of Ukraine have pushed costs higher.
But there are signs that companies are doing more than covering their costs.
According to economists at the ECB, businesses have been padding their profits. That, they said, was a bigger factor in fueling inflation during the second half of last year than rising wages were.
Jan Philipp Jenisch, chief executive of construction-materials maker Holcim, said on a recent earnings call: "We are in that inflationary environment already for almost two years now…We have done the pricing in a very proactive way, so that our results aren't suffering. On the contrary, they are improving the margins."
One puzzle is why consumers have played ball. Usually, economists would expect any business that raised its prices to lose customers to competitors that don't, or not by as much.
But these aren't normal times. In rare situations—such as an economy's reopening after a pandemic—widespread knowledge that costs are rising allows businesses to raise their prices knowing that their competitors will act in the same way, according to a paper by Isabella Weber, assistant professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, and her colleague, Evan Wasner.
That is a pattern the two economists said has played out in an analysis of recent earning calls in which executives at U.S. businesses present their financial results to analysts.
"We do have to think about pricing differently," said Ms. Weber. "A cost shock, or bottlenecks can create an implicit agreement among firms that raise their prices, so they can expect others to act likewise."
Consumers have also been unusually willing to accept higher prices lately. Paul Donovan, chief economist at UBS Global Wealth Management, said businesses are betting that consumers will go along because they know about supply bottlenecks and higher energy prices.
"They are confident that they can convince consumers that it isn't their fault, and it won't damage their brand," Mr. Donovan said.
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Elsewhere, the desire to boost margins, rather than just cover increased costs, appears to be one reason why food prices have continued to rise rapidly in Europe.
Much of the surge in food prices since the middle of last year stems from higher costs, particularly for energy, since most food production is quite energy-intensive. But economists at insurance company Allianz have calculated that about 10% of the rise reflects the search for higher profits. They suggest that is possible because key parts of the food-supply chain are dominated by a small number of firms.
"There is not enough competition in the food sector, especially in distribution," said Ludovic Subran, chief economist at Allianz.
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In recent earnings calls, some executives said consumers were becoming more resistant to price rises.
"We will probably see pricing moving down," said Francois-Xavier Roger, Nestlé's chief financial officer.
Last month, Procter & Gamble said it had boosted its profit margins in the first three months of the year, thanks in large part to higher prices. It warned that there were limits to how far it could push that tactic before consumers switched to cheaper alternatives.
"We've made several adjustments to price gaps, not just versus private label, but versus branded competition as we've gone through this period of pricing, and we need to continue to be sensitive to that," said Jon Moeller, the company's CEO.
For Mr. Donovan at UBS, the period of profit-driven inflation might be coming to an end, in part because of rising public scrutiny.
"We are probably at a point where companies may be reassessing whether to push this," he said. "A reputation for being poor value for money stays for a long time."
 
Inflation has proved more stubborn than central banks bargained for when prices started surging two years ago. Now some economists think they know why: Businesses are using a rare opportunity to boost their profit margins.
Figures released Tuesday by the European Union's statistics agency showed consumer prices in the eurozone were 7.0% higher than a year earlier in April, a pickup from March and more than three times the European Central Bank's target. However, the core rate of inflation—which excludes food and energy prices—edged down to 5.6% in April from a record high of 5.7% in March.
Inflation rates also remain uncomfortably high in the U.S. and many other parts of the world despite interest-rate rises that have gone further and been delivered more quickly than at any time since the 1980s.
There have been good reasons for businesses to raise their prices in recent months. The supply-chain disruptions caused by the Covid-19 pandemic and the energy, food and raw-material bottlenecks that followed Russia's invasion of Ukraine have pushed costs higher.
But there are signs that companies are doing more than covering their costs.
According to economists at the ECB, businesses have been padding their profits. That, they said, was a bigger factor in fueling inflation during the second half of last year than rising wages were.
Jan Philipp Jenisch, chief executive of construction-materials maker Holcim, said on a recent earnings call: "We are in that inflationary environment already for almost two years now…We have done the pricing in a very proactive way, so that our results aren't suffering. On the contrary, they are improving the margins."
One puzzle is why consumers have played ball. Usually, economists would expect any business that raised its prices to lose customers to competitors that don't, or not by as much.
But these aren't normal times. In rare situations—such as an economy's reopening after a pandemic—widespread knowledge that costs are rising allows businesses to raise their prices knowing that their competitors will act in the same way, according to a paper by Isabella Weber, assistant professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, and her colleague, Evan Wasner.
That is a pattern the two economists said has played out in an analysis of recent earning calls in which executives at U.S. businesses present their financial results to analysts.
"We do have to think about pricing differently," said Ms. Weber. "A cost shock, or bottlenecks can create an implicit agreement among firms that raise their prices, so they can expect others to act likewise."
Consumers have also been unusually willing to accept higher prices lately. Paul Donovan, chief economist at UBS Global Wealth Management, said businesses are betting that consumers will go along because they know about supply bottlenecks and higher energy prices.
"They are confident that they can convince consumers that it isn't their fault, and it won't damage their brand," Mr. Donovan said.
------------------------------
Elsewhere, the desire to boost margins, rather than just cover increased costs, appears to be one reason why food prices have continued to rise rapidly in Europe.
Much of the surge in food prices since the middle of last year stems from higher costs, particularly for energy, since most food production is quite energy-intensive. But economists at insurance company Allianz have calculated that about 10% of the rise reflects the search for higher profits. They suggest that is possible because key parts of the food-supply chain are dominated by a small number of firms.
"There is not enough competition in the food sector, especially in distribution," said Ludovic Subran, chief economist at Allianz.
------------------------------
In recent earnings calls, some executives said consumers were becoming more resistant to price rises.
"We will probably see pricing moving down," said Francois-Xavier Roger, Nestlé's chief financial officer.
Last month, Procter & Gamble said it had boosted its profit margins in the first three months of the year, thanks in large part to higher prices. It warned that there were limits to how far it could push that tactic before consumers switched to cheaper alternatives.
"We've made several adjustments to price gaps, not just versus private label, but versus branded competition as we've gone through this period of pricing, and we need to continue to be sensitive to that," said Jon Moeller, the company's CEO.
For Mr. Donovan at UBS, the period of profit-driven inflation might be coming to an end, in part because of rising public scrutiny.
"We are probably at a point where companies may be reassessing whether to push this," he said. "A reputation for being poor value for money stays for a long time."
Csb.
Same thing was posted last night.
 
Seriously. Anyone that has at least glanced at the current situation should have came to a similar idea long ago.

For all the talk of “quiet quitting” we as a people have been “quietly gouged”. Corporations have been testing and gauging what we are willing to pay vs what we are willing to quit or riot about for a long time.

Inevitably the argument comes down to overrun. Keeping the lights on etc etc.

I’ve witnessed, constantly, companies not want to pay a person their worth in order to make sure their CEO can get the quarterly bonuses he “so richly deserves”. Hell now we got corporate buybacks. Basically avoiding every avenue other than paying a man what he deserves. I’m living that right now and could relate a bullshit situation I was witness to in the last 6 months.

If we do enter an actual recession, it will be due to none other than corporate greed.
 
Seriously. Anyone that has at least glanced at the current situation should have came to a similar idea long ago.

For all the talk of “quiet quitting” we as a people have been “quietly gouged”. Corporations have been testing and gauging what we are willing to pay vs what we are willing to quit or riot about for a long time.

Inevitably the argument comes down to overrun. Keeping the lights on etc etc.

I’ve witnessed, constantly, companies not want to pay a person their worth in order to make sure their CEO can get the quarterly bonuses he “so richly deserves”. Hell now we got corporate buybacks. Basically avoiding every avenue other than paying a man what he deserves. I’m living that right now and could relate a bullshit situation I was witness to in the last 6 months.

If we do enter an actual recession, it will be due to none other than corporate greed.
Pure gold here.
Thanks
 
Pure gold. Sure. I watched a deserving coworker get screwed because the company I work for doesn’t give a shit about its employees.

Pure gold. Thanks. Meanwhile a single mom got ****ed.
Great stuff.
Thanks.
 
Well, duh. Every for-profit organization sets profit goals, and heads will roll if they aren't accomplished. This is like pointing out that the sun rises every day.
 
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Corporate greed has always been an issue and always will be. Where was this inflation-driving greed for the past 40 years since the last real bout of inflation? Basic economics will always be basic economics...Flood the money supply with a ton of freshly-printed money, supply chain issues that we voluntarily have offshored to every corner of the world and the FED keeping the funds rate at essentially 0 post-2008 are the elephants in the living room. This was going to happen eventually, COVID just accelerated the process. Not a democrat or a republican problem, it's a policy problem and we as a country are horrible at fiscal responsibility regardless of what team one aligns with. Is corporate greed real? Oh yeah...But, it's a lazy blame to single out one bogeyman while ignoring the contributors that are more glaring.
 
If you’re worth more change companies.
Feel free to raise $$ and start your your own company to compete with the unfair company. It’s obvious you’re the brains behind the companies profits.
LOL. Yep. It’s that easy. I’m sure you as a perfect human ideology can make such advances.

I just wish that companies would stop treating their employees as expendable.

So. Your comparable to Elon right? Everywhere you go you got that advantage? Must be nice.
 
“Greedflation” is just a gaslight diversion from the more appropriate term “Bidenflation”. All the excess money printed into circulation by both Trump and Biden enabled companies to chase profits with higher prices, along with creating other inflationary issues. But Biden assured us inflation wasn’t a significant risk when touting his massive spending bills and said he would be an accountable president, so he owns it. Bidenflation.
 
“Greedflation” is just a gaslight diversion from the more appropriate term “Bidenflation”. All the excess money printed into circulation by both Trump and Biden enabled companies to chase profits with higher prices, along with creating other inflationary issues. But Biden assured us inflation wasn’t a significant risk when touting his massive spending bills and said he would be an accountable president, so he owns it. Bidenflation.
Yes, those liberals at the WSJ just aren’t as dialed in as you.
 
Some countries have imposed modest windfall profit taxes. Not us.

We put caps on the selling price for Russian oil, but not our own oil. So Exxon makes record profits and screams for the right to drill, despite ecological concerns.

Canada is already imposing a carbon tax. Not us.

High interest makes people and businesses reluctant to borrow. Raising reserve requirements would make banks safer, and encourage them to be pickier when lending. Both would slow inflation, but only the one that mainly hurts consumers gets tried.

When 2 business parties compete for power and there is no counterbalancing labor or people's party, all the decisions tend to favor big business. And in case you haven't noticed, "too big to fail" is more true than in 2008.

Meanwhile, one of the business parties is threatening to send the US into default unless we cut spending to the most needy. Default probably won't happen, but they have a lot of crazies in that party, so who knows? Who do you think the winners will be? My bet is on those who can take advantage of the fire sale prices. The rich and powerful. As usual.
 
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Some countries have imposed modest windfall profit taxes. Not us.

We put caps on the selling price for Russian oil, but not our own oil. So Exxon makes record profits and screams for the right to drill, despite ecological concerns.

Canada is already imposing a carbon tax. Not us.

High interest makes people and businesses reluctant to borrow. Raising reserve requirements would make banks safer, and encourage them to be pickier when lending. Both would slow inflation, but only the one that mainly hurts consumers gets tried.

When 2 business parties compete for power and there is no counterbalancing labor or people's party, all the decisions tend to favor big business. And in case you haven't noticed, "too big to fail" is more true than in 2008.

Meanwhile, one of the business parties is threatening to send the US into default unless we cut spending to the most needy. Default probably won't happen, but they have a lot of crazies in that party, so who knows? Who do you think the winners will be? My bet is on those who can take advantage of the fire sale prices. The rich and powerful. As usual.
Spending to the most needy.
Cute.
 
LOL. Yep. It’s that easy. I’m sure you as a perfect human ideology can make such advances.

I just wish that companies would stop treating their employees as expendable.

So. Your comparable to Elon right? Everywhere you go you got that advantage? Must be nice.
Ok comrade.
 
If you’re worth more change companies.
Feel free to raise $$ and start your your own company to compete with the unfair company. It’s obvious you’re the brains behind the companies profits.
That's a very weak troll, even for you 🤪
 
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Some countries have imposed modest windfall profit taxes. Not us.

We put caps on the selling price for Russian oil, but not our own oil. So Exxon makes record profits and screams for the right to drill, despite ecological concerns.

Canada is already imposing a carbon tax. Not us.

High interest makes people and businesses reluctant to borrow. Raising reserve requirements would make banks safer, and encourage them to be pickier when lending. Both would slow inflation, but only the one that mainly hurts consumers gets tried.

When 2 business parties compete for power and there is no counterbalancing labor or people's party, all the decisions tend to favor big business. And in case you haven't noticed, "too big to fail" is more true than in 2008.

Meanwhile, one of the business parties is threatening to send the US into default unless we cut spending to the most needy. Default probably won't happen, but they have a lot of crazies in that party, so who knows? Who do you think the winners will be? My bet is on those who can take advantage of the fire sale prices. The rich and powerful. As usual.

Your comment about reserve requirements is spot on and doesn’t get talked about enough. It is absurd that the current requirement is 0%. But, nothing surprises me with the most incompetent federal reserve I have ever witnessed. Which is saying a lot.

The rest of your post is pretty solid as well. You get a like.
 
Corporate greed has always been an issue and always will be. Where was this inflation-driving greed for the past 40 years since the last real bout of inflation? Basic economics will always be basic economics...Flood the money supply with a ton of freshly-printed money, supply chain issues that we voluntarily have offshored to every corner of the world and the FED keeping the funds rate at essentially 0 post-2008 are the elephants in the living room. This was going to happen eventually, COVID just accelerated the process. Not a democrat or a republican problem, it's a policy problem and we as a country are horrible at fiscal responsibility regardless of what team one aligns with. Is corporate greed real? Oh yeah...But, it's a lazy blame to single out one bogeyman while ignoring the contributors that are more glaring.

‘Another excellent post. Agree 100%
 
“Greedflation” is just a gaslight diversion from the more appropriate term “Bidenflation”. All the excess money printed into circulation by both Trump and Biden enabled companies to chase profits with higher prices, along with creating other inflationary issues. But Biden assured us inflation wasn’t a significant risk when touting his massive spending bills and said he would be an accountable president, so he owns it. Bidenflation.

You know, had you not went and made it all political, you would have been on to something. But you did and it made your post really dumb.
 
You know, had you not went and made it all political, you would have been on to something. But you did and it made your post really dumb.
If you think it’s dumb, I’m okay with that. I’m just holding those who downplayed inflationary risks to pass their agendas (and now want to focus blame elsewhere) accountable for their actions.

Both sides are culpable, won’t get any disagreement from me.
 
That really sucks but let's just be glad corporations just started being greedy. I mean, they could have been greedy for decades but just started when Biden became president. Lucky.
 
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Inflation has proved more stubborn than central banks bargained for when prices started surging two years ago. Now some economists think they know why: Businesses are using a rare opportunity to boost their profit margins.
Figures released Tuesday by the European Union's statistics agency showed consumer prices in the eurozone were 7.0% higher than a year earlier in April, a pickup from March and more than three times the European Central Bank's target. However, the core rate of inflation—which excludes food and energy prices—edged down to 5.6% in April from a record high of 5.7% in March.
Inflation rates also remain uncomfortably high in the U.S. and many other parts of the world despite interest-rate rises that have gone further and been delivered more quickly than at any time since the 1980s.
There have been good reasons for businesses to raise their prices in recent months. The supply-chain disruptions caused by the Covid-19 pandemic and the energy, food and raw-material bottlenecks that followed Russia's invasion of Ukraine have pushed costs higher.
But there are signs that companies are doing more than covering their costs.
According to economists at the ECB, businesses have been padding their profits. That, they said, was a bigger factor in fueling inflation during the second half of last year than rising wages were.
Jan Philipp Jenisch, chief executive of construction-materials maker Holcim, said on a recent earnings call: "We are in that inflationary environment already for almost two years now…We have done the pricing in a very proactive way, so that our results aren't suffering. On the contrary, they are improving the margins."
One puzzle is why consumers have played ball. Usually, economists would expect any business that raised its prices to lose customers to competitors that don't, or not by as much.
But these aren't normal times. In rare situations—such as an economy's reopening after a pandemic—widespread knowledge that costs are rising allows businesses to raise their prices knowing that their competitors will act in the same way, according to a paper by Isabella Weber, assistant professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, and her colleague, Evan Wasner.
That is a pattern the two economists said has played out in an analysis of recent earning calls in which executives at U.S. businesses present their financial results to analysts.
"We do have to think about pricing differently," said Ms. Weber. "A cost shock, or bottlenecks can create an implicit agreement among firms that raise their prices, so they can expect others to act likewise."
Consumers have also been unusually willing to accept higher prices lately. Paul Donovan, chief economist at UBS Global Wealth Management, said businesses are betting that consumers will go along because they know about supply bottlenecks and higher energy prices.
"They are confident that they can convince consumers that it isn't their fault, and it won't damage their brand," Mr. Donovan said.
------------------------------
Elsewhere, the desire to boost margins, rather than just cover increased costs, appears to be one reason why food prices have continued to rise rapidly in Europe.
Much of the surge in food prices since the middle of last year stems from higher costs, particularly for energy, since most food production is quite energy-intensive. But economists at insurance company Allianz have calculated that about 10% of the rise reflects the search for higher profits. They suggest that is possible because key parts of the food-supply chain are dominated by a small number of firms.
"There is not enough competition in the food sector, especially in distribution," said Ludovic Subran, chief economist at Allianz.
------------------------------
In recent earnings calls, some executives said consumers were becoming more resistant to price rises.
"We will probably see pricing moving down," said Francois-Xavier Roger, Nestlé's chief financial officer.
Last month, Procter & Gamble said it had boosted its profit margins in the first three months of the year, thanks in large part to higher prices. It warned that there were limits to how far it could push that tactic before consumers switched to cheaper alternatives.
"We've made several adjustments to price gaps, not just versus private label, but versus branded competition as we've gone through this period of pricing, and we need to continue to be sensitive to that," said Jon Moeller, the company's CEO.
For Mr. Donovan at UBS, the period of profit-driven inflation might be coming to an end, in part because of rising public scrutiny.
"We are probably at a point where companies may be reassessing whether to push this," he said. "A reputation for being poor value for money stays for a long time."
JFC people - corporations are going after the crap-ton of money that is out in circulation - yes that's effing inflation!

If all that money were buried in someone's backyard, then there would not be any inflation, but it's out there in circulation, meaning people spending and people making profit
 
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Spending to the most needy.
Cute.
I love it when trolls can't actually refute any of the multiple points made, yet feel the need to disparage. So they focus on some word choice that triggered them. And even then, they don't explain why they think that's significant.

This is another example of what's wrong these days: only one side is actually willing to discuss things. The other side is all gotchas and snark. And, sure, there's some of that on my side, too, but not all the time.
 
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The good news is that Exxon and Chevron just posted their most profitable quarters ever.
 
Exxon's 1Q profits were close to $11.5 billion -- about $2.5 billion more than the year before (if you include the write off). It was reported as a record profit quarter.
Chevron’s were about half of their best qtr.
Not sure on Exxon. Only reason i know chevron is i owned some until last year.
 
Exxon's 1Q profits were close to $11.5 billion -- about $2.5 billion more than the year before (if you include the write off). It was reported as a record profit quarter.
You know how our cons used to claim that we should cut corporate taxes because corporations just pass those taxes on to the consumer?

Well, we cut corporate taxes.

If you thought cons meant that corporations would pass the tax cuts on to consumers . . . silly you.

Bring back sensible corporate taxes.

Implement windfall profits taxes.

Impose a carbon tax.

Rescind this millennium's tax cuts for the rich.

Recind the last few interest rate hikes. Not all of them because rates were artificially too low for a long time and banks were gaming the low rates. But rescind several of them.
 
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