But, but, but... it's impossible to win and recruit enough athletes to the state of Iowa....The excuse given by Iowa basketball fans for decades. Horseshit! Just an excuse. Plenty of talent at our neighbor Illinois alone to build a winner.
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And yet....ISU doesn't seem to have a problem recruiting.But, but, but... it's impossible to win and recruit enough athletes to the state of Iowa....The excuse given by Iowa basketball fans for decades. Horseshit! Just an excuse. Plenty of talent at our neighbor Illinois alone to build a winner.
Nebraska recruits athletes as well.But, but, but... it's impossible to win and recruit enough athletes to the state of Iowa....The excuse given by Iowa basketball fans for decades. Horseshit! Just an excuse. Plenty of talent at our neighbor Illinois alone to build a winner.
Nebraska should NEVER be better at basketball than Iowa. Yet here we are.Nebraska recruits athletes as well.
Difference? Head coach.
And yet....ISU doesn't seem to have a problem recruiting.
Nebraska should NEVER be better at basketball than Iowa. Yet here we are.
Nebraska recruits athletes as well.
Difference? Head coach.
NoHow about, tOSU, Indiana, Michigan St, Michigan, should they be better than any of those?
No, but I didn't see anybody here saying that.How about, tOSU, Indiana, Michigan St, Michigan, should they be better than any of those?
Great title by the way! Are you willing to step in to become Iowa's sugar daddy? Iowa St has one, Iowa does not. Fran is ham strung with no money to lure 1 and done players.And yet....ISU doesn't seem to have a problem recruiting.
How about the full 14 years of Fran? ISU had some bad years under Prohm, and guess what, we fired him. But overall, we have had some exciting years as well. At ISU, Fran would have been fired years ago. But for some strange reason, Iowa and the fans seem to think that they could end up worse if they fire Fran. Sometimes you just have to go for it in coaching hires, you have to take a chance. Frans buyout is huge, but can you afford to NOT fire him? Do any of you believe he is going to go to the Dance most every year, and get to the sweet 16 some of those years? I really doubt any of you does. Which is why the students don't show up, which is why CHA 1/3 to half empty for most games. When is the last time Iowa sold out the arena in season tickets? Iowa could do so much better. Lute and TD were far better. That arena was packed. Fran, not so much. You're selling yourselves short.Right now? This was IDU a few years ago: 12-22, 2019-2020 & 2-22 in 2020-2021…
Everyone likes to grab a tiny snap shot in time to make their point. Sigh….
But. But, but if I look at the big picture I’ll realize it’s not that bad…could be better, yes…
Should be better, most likely…
But I know I don’t feel like anyone’s big or little brother. If anyone in here does, I’d say they should step away from sports for awhile…🤷♂️
What have you done lately?How was that coach the last 4 years…
Yeah you’re kind of making the point that it’s easier than ever to turn a program around in the matter of 1-2years with the way college athletics are right now. ISU has had much more success than us during the time Frans been at iowa, sure their lows have been lower but their hi’s have been higher too. The “snapshot” is bigger than you’re making it out to beRight now? This was IDU a few years ago: 12-22, 2019-2020 & 2-22 in 2020-2021…
Everyone likes to grab a tiny snap shot in time to make their point. Sigh….
But. But, but if I look at the big picture I’ll realize it’s not that bad…could be better, yes…
Should be better, most likely…
But I know I don’t feel like anyone’s big or little brother. If anyone in here does, I’d say they should step away from sports for awhile…🤷♂️
No, but I didn't see anybody here saying that.
God Forbid I would ever agree with a Clone fan......but.......sigh....He's not wrongHow about the full 14 years of Fran? ISU had some bad years under Prohm, and guess what, we fired him. But overall, we have had some exciting years as well. At ISU, Fran would have been fired years ago. But for some strange reason, Iowa and the fans seem to think that they could end up worse if they fire Fran. Sometimes you just have to go for it in coaching hires, you have to take a chance. Frans buyout is huge, but can you afford to NOT fire him? Do any of you believe he is going to go to the Dance most every year, and get to the sweet 16 some of those years? I really doubt any of you does. Which is why the students don't show up, which is why CHA 1/3 to half empty for most games. When is the last time Iowa sold out the arena in season tickets? Iowa could do so much better. Lute and TD were far better. That arena was packed. Fran, not so much. You're selling yourselves short.
How about the full 14 years of Fran? ISU had some bad years under Prohm, and guess what, we fired him. But overall, we have had some exciting years as well. At ISU, Fran would have been fired years ago. But for some strange reason, Iowa and the fans seem to think that they could end up worse if they fire Fran. Sometimes you just have to go for it in coaching hires, you have to take a chance. Frans buyout is huge, but can you afford to NOT fire him? Do any of you believe he is going to go to the Dance most every year, and get to the sweet 16 some of those years? I really doubt any of you does. Which is why the students don't show up, which is why CHA 1/3 to half empty for most games. When is the last time Iowa sold out the arena in season tickets? Iowa could do so much better. Lute and TD were far better. That arena was packed. Fran, not so much. You're selling yourselves short.
Yeah you’re kind of making the point that it’s easier than ever to turn a program around in the matter of 1-2years with the way college athletics are right now. ISU has had much more success than us during the time Frans been at iowa, sure their lows have been lower but their hi’s have been higher too. The “snapshot” is bigger than you’re making it out to be
Whether Iowa fans like it or not TJ is a good coach, and he gets the most out of his players. McCaffery coached Iowa will not beat ISU, but JMO.
Great title by the way! Are you willing to step in to become Iowa's sugar daddy? Iowa St has one, Iowa does not. Fran is ham strung with no money to lure 1 and done players.
Fran has done ok with what he's strapped with, just not good enough for fans like you. I'm going to see how this years freshmen class along side the sophomores turn out in the next couple years before I'm ready to jettison Fran. That's the only reason I'm keeping him around as if I have any say in it. LOL
We definitely are in basketball. Just like Iowa State is little brother to us in football.We are not and never will be "little brother" to ISU.
I like chicken, and taco pizza. Pretty full of yourself today, and it's earlylol… and here we have another fan who doesn’t know his teams own history or nationally…
13-18, 23-12, (5th in conference) 12-20 & 2-22…last 4 years. Most ALL coaches would have been fired for that. I’d say nice try but it wasn’t. It was in fact, a miserable try, erroneous on every effort.
You’re honestly gonna compare that to Fran McCaffrey who for the first time in several years just missed the tournament… And you even got a couple of our dopes to like your message…
I’m gonna say this loud for the cheap sheets I don’t give a shit if they fire McCaffrey I’m to the point I don’t even care if Kirk Ferentz goes, but I am tired of ignorant, short, sighted biased fans, refusing to look right, and left and realize things….
Hell apparently you’re unaware I actually like Iowa State quite a bit. In fact I went to Iowa State for a semester. My uncle graduated from there. I’ve been to the regionals here in Chicago to watch them play but you’re not gonna sell me your bowl full of bullshit. Yes, you guys have been better, but you don’t have the ****ing market cornered ….
Get out of here with fire, Fran after he went to an NCAA tournament and comparing that to two and 22…hardly anyone died that.
And don’t act like you’re some different fanbase. I’ve read your boards on again off again for 20 years different teams same entire bullshit….
Y’all think you deserve more….
Fact!We are not and never will be "little brother" to ISU.
Building somethingHow was that coach the last 4 years…
While I agree with some of this, you can't get past the fact that Fran flames out in the tourney.lol… and here we have another fan who doesn’t know his teams own history or nationally…
13-18, 23-12, (5th in conference) 12-20 & 2-22…last 4 years. Most ALL coaches would have been fired for that. I’d say nice try but it wasn’t. It was in fact, a miserable try, erroneous on every effort.
You’re honestly gonna compare that to Fran McCaffrey who for the first time in several years just missed the tournament… And you even got a couple of our dopes to like your message…
I’m gonna say this loud for the cheap sheets I don’t give a shit if they fire McCaffrey I’m to the point I don’t even care if Kirk Ferentz goes, but I am tired of ignorant, short, sighted biased fans, refusing to look right, and left and realize things….
Hell apparently you’re unaware I actually like Iowa State quite a bit. In fact I went to Iowa State for a semester. My uncle graduated from there. I’ve been to the regionals here in Chicago to watch them play but you’re not gonna sell me your bowl full of bullshit. Yes, you guys have been better, but you don’t have the ****ing market cornered ….
Get out of here with fire, Fran after he went to an NCAA tournament and comparing that to two and 22…hardly anyone died that.
And don’t act like you’re some different fanbase. I’ve read your boards on again off again for 20 years different teams same entire bullshit….
Y’all think you deserve more….
Calm down. You are listing two years of Prohm and two years of building years by TJ. One of them was fired.lol… and here we have another fan who doesn’t know his teams own history or nationally…
13-18, 23-12, (5th in conference) 12-20 & 2-22…last 4 years. Most ALL coaches would have been fired for that. I’d say nice try but it wasn’t. It was in fact, a miserable try, erroneous on every effort.
You’re honestly gonna compare that to Fran McCaffrey who for the first time in several years just missed the tournament… And you even got a couple of our dopes to like your message…
I’m gonna say this loud for the cheap sheets I don’t give a shit if they fire McCaffrey I’m to the point I don’t even care if Kirk Ferentz goes, but I am tired of ignorant, short, sighted biased fans, refusing to look right, and left and realize things….
Hell apparently you’re unaware I actually like Iowa State quite a bit. In fact I went to Iowa State for a semester. My uncle graduated from there. I’ve been to the regionals here in Chicago to watch them play but you’re not gonna sell me your bowl full of bullshit. Yes, you guys have been better, but you don’t have the ****ing market cornered ….
Get out of here with fire, Fran after he went to an NCAA tournament and comparing that to two and 22…hardly anyone died that.
And don’t act like you’re some different fanbase. I’ve read your boards on again off again for 20 years different teams same entire bullshit….
Y’all think you deserve more….
Not sure you get the concept of "little brother". This is like clones saying "It's a cyclone state" when they win the football game. It's never been and never will be. ISU has a better men's basketball team right now, but it's a bit bigger than that.We definitely are in basketball. Just like Iowa State is little brother to us in football.
Has Fran gone 2-22 or even approached that?How about the full 14 years of Fran? ISU had some bad years under Prohm, and guess what, we fired him. But overall, we have had some exciting years as well. At ISU, Fran would have been fired years ago. But for some strange reason, Iowa and the fans seem to think that they could end up worse if they fire Fran. Sometimes you just have to go for it in coaching hires, you have to take a chance. Frans buyout is huge, but can you afford to NOT fire him? Do any of you believe he is going to go to the Dance most every year, and get to the sweet 16 some of those years? I really doubt any of you does. Which is why the students don't show up, which is why CHA 1/3 to half empty for most games. When is the last time Iowa sold out the arena in season tickets? Iowa could do so much better. Lute and TD were far better. That arena was packed. Fran, not so much. You're selling yourselves short.
Iowa State has much more sustained success over Iowa in basketball by pretty much any measure (conference finish, conference tourney titles, NCAA tourney success) the past two decades.Not sure you get the concept of "little brother". This is like clones saying "It's a cyclone state" when they win the football game. It's never been and never will be. ISU has a better men's basketball team right now, but it's a bit bigger than that.
Yes and they're still bitch ass punks from cow college that play loose with the rules. Despite all their achievements they still can't seem to do better than .500 against Iowa's program.Iowa State has much more sustained success over Iowa in basketball by pretty much any measure (conference finish, conference tourney titles, NCAA tourney success) the past two decades.
Shit the bed every time he’s in the tourney, with great talentHas Fran gone 2-22 or even approached that?
I'd gladly ride that roller coaster.Right now? This was ISU a few years ago: 12-22, 2019-2020 & 2-22 in 2020-2021…
Everyone likes to grab a tiny snap shot in time to make their point. Sigh….
But. But, but if I look at the big picture I’ll realize it’s not that bad…could be better, yes…
Should be better, most likely…
But I know I don’t feel like anyone’s big or little brother. If anyone in here does, I’d say they should step away from sports for awhile…🤷♂️
Enlighten with facts. And when did sweet sixteen become "it."Shit the bed every time he’s in the tourney, with great talent
We definitely are in basketball. Just like Iowa State is little brother to us in football.
Iowa State basketball has been better in every category that matters this century. If we want to be Nebraska football and talk about the good old days before the turn of the century, well have at it.Having a worse team in a sport does not make one “little brother.”
Little brother would be insisting that your team is NOT worse and getting your panties in a wad when people don’t agree, using false arguments to make your point, and insisting any apparent inferiority is due to unfair circumstance.
Iowa is actually better than ISU in men’s BB in head to head, tournament appearances, advancing to each round in the tournament. It may not seem like it, but this includes fairly recent history. They are a very good team and clearly better than Iowa right now, to be sure. 🤷♀️
2 of those schools fired their coach, and a 3rd could be coming soon. Izzo is a HOF coach who has accomplished more than Fran can even comprehend. He can afford a down year, but will still be in the Dance.How about, tOSU, Indiana, Michigan St, Michigan, should they be better than any of those?
So you are good with just mediocre? Just knowing we will never make it past the 1st weekend?? Call me a dreamer, but it’s possibleEnlighten with facts. And when did sweet sixteen become "it."