Your football board is amusing.

[srams21]

I said that winning the close games reflects well on the team. I never suggested Iowa is only 7-0 because of luck. But the OP was about the football board, and a lot of people seem to have forgotten that about a month ago, the consensus was to fire the coach because the prospects for the football program were so bleak. And if, as you say, those four plays -- not sure which ones you mean, will take your word on it -- had gone differently, that would still be the consensus, IMHO.

Similarly, if three or four plays had gone differently, ISU would be 4-2 instead of 2-4 and people would be talking the chances of a bowl game and the near-certainty that Rhoads would keep his job. Instead, the talk is about who the new coach will be and what the university has to do to support him, whoever he is.

Making or not making those plays has a luck component, but mostly it's coaching, talent, that kind of thing.

My four plays statement was based on you saying we got a few bounces. Iowa dominated the game against ISU and it was more than just a bounce or two that separated the teams. But, whatever. I don't go on other teams boards to talk smack or point out things about their football board or golf board or chess board or any other board. If some dude sitting in his parents basement in Battle Creek wants to pay enough attention to our football board to notice a few posts about the "consensus" of Iowa football then good for him. I'm glad we can amuse people.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

My four plays statement was based on you saying we got a few bounces. Iowa dominated the game against ISU and it was more than just a bounce or two that separated the teams. But, whatever. I don't go on other teams boards to talk smack or point out things about their football board or golf board or chess board or any other board. If some dude sitting in his parents basement in Battle Creek wants to pay enough attention to our football board to notice a few posts about the "consensus" of Iowa football then good for him. I'm glad we can amuse people.

Say what you will, but I'm not in my parents basement and im not in Battle Creek. I have no doubt my net worth dwarfs yours, so stay in the shallow end where you belong.

 

[srams21]

Say what you will, but I'm not in my parents basement and im not in Battle Creek. I have no doubt my net worth dwarfs yours, so stay in the shallow end where you belong.

Then how about you go back to the Michigan board or better yet head over to e-trade and play with some stocks or hit up the bond market. I have way too much to do to spend my time on some Michigan board and what your fanbase thinks.

Oh, one last question, do you know a Steven Patrick?

 

[unsubstantiated]

LMAO. Only in LC's delusional world is a kid kicking a 57 yard FG straight through the uprights with 6 yards to spare considered a lucky "bounce".

 

[Guido Sarducci]

Well, In the ISU game, an Iowa fumble bounced up into the hands of another Iowa player for a touchdown ....in a game that was tied with 3 minutes to play. I'd say that was a pretty good example. Your kicker, who has missed 4 extra points, made a 57-yard FG to win the Pitt game. The Wisconsin quarterback turned the ball over four times, including once at your 1-yard-line, in a 10-6 game.

This is really pretty funny. There are threads on the FB board by Hawkeye fans about how the team is finally getting the breaks this season. And yes, I have read the threads about SOS, which do nothing to negate my comment here. Moreover, there is no reason my post in this thread should have upset anybody. I said you were having an outstanding year. I told the OP to give you a break.

You were in three games you could easily have lost, and you won all three. That's a credit to the team, and it's what a team has to do to have a successful season.

That's certainly one perspective.

Another (and more accurate) view is that Iowa's receiver was more athletic and hustled more than the 4 ISU defenders on a fumble when he emerged from nowhere to get a fumble and run it into the end zone.

 

[cidhawkeye]

I said that winning the close games reflects well on the team. I never suggested Iowa is only 7-0 because of luck. But the OP was about the football board, and a lot of people seem to have forgotten that about a month ago, the consensus was to fire the coach because the prospects for the football program were so bleak. And if, as you say, those four plays -- not sure which ones you mean, will take your word on it -- had gone differently, that would still be the consensus, IMHO.

Similarly, if three or four plays had gone differently, ISU would be 4-2 instead of 2-4 and people would be talking the chances of a bowl game and the near-certainty that Rhoads would keep his job. Instead, the talk is about who the new coach will be and what the university has to do to support him, whoever he is.

Making or not making those plays has a luck component, but mostly it's coaching, talent, that kind of thing.

Can you share the 3 or 4 plays that would make the 2-4, 4-2 swing possible for ISU?

 

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[cruhawk]

25th ranked schedule by Sagarin. Beat three ranked teams, 2 on the road.

Hope you're "so proud" of Clones staying within 30 points of TCU.

Iowa State would be 2-5 with Iowa's schedulce

What two games would ISU win? I suppose they could beat themselves.

 

[moral_victory]

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[ICWestfan]

Well, In the ISU game, an Iowa fumble bounced up into the hands of another Iowa player for a touchdown ....in a game that was tied with 3 minutes to play. I'd say that was a pretty good example. Your kicker, who has missed 4 extra points, made a 57-yard FG to win the Pitt game. The Wisconsin quarterback turned the ball over four times, including once at your 1-yard-line, in a 10-6 game.

This is really pretty funny. There are threads on the FB board by Hawkeye fans about how the team is finally getting the breaks this season. And yes, I have read the threads about SOS, which do nothing to negate my comment here. Moreover, there is no reason my post in this thread should have upset anybody. I said you were having an outstanding year. I told the OP to give you a break.

You were in three games you could easily have lost, and you won all three. That's a credit to the team, and it's what a team has to do to have a successful season.

the ball has been bouncing Hawkeye-way a lot. Schedule isn't very strong

Well I for one am not upset, and I won't make fun of ISU. Koehn has missed 3 or 4 Xtra Pts, but would say that his 57 yd kick was due more to skill and preperation and being given the opportunity that it was to "bounces". As far as TO's go, again, that is preperation and effort and something any defense strives for. Yeah, the ball bounced the right vs ISU, but had the TE not fumbled Iowa was going to score anyway.

Check back at the end of the season in regards to SoS and I might agree with you. As of now, Iowa's SoS is pretty good especially when compared to other teams in the top 10.

 

[Lone Clone]

Can you share the 3 or 4 plays that would make the 2-4, 4-2 swing possible for ISU?

First, some of you aren't reading what I wrote. I specifically said that coaching and talent are largely responsible for a lot of things that look lucky. Obviously, I couldn't make a 57-yard field goal. Obviously, if the Hawk receiver hadn't been alert he couldn't have grabbed the fumble and scored a TD.

Now, to answer your question.........Toledo is easy. I could pick half a dozen plays in that game -- they fumbled into the end zone and recovered it for a TD, too -- but the most obvious came at the end of regulation. Score tied, last play of the game, ball at the 14, ISU's kicker was honorable mention all-conference last year and didn't miss from inside 40 yards, but he misses the FG that would have won the game and ISU ends up losing in two overtimes. He makes that chip shot ISU is 3-3 right now.

In the Iowa game, let's remember that the final score is not indicative of that game. The final Iowa score came because ISU was in desperation mode, trailing by 7 with not much time remaining. That doesn't take away from King's pick; he made a nice play. But the point is that we aren't looking for a two-touchdown turnaround.

The fumble recovered for a TD is one play. Another would be when a deep reserve linebacker missed a tackle and let Beathard escape from his end zone for a 44-yard gain. This was at a point when ISU had the lead and the momentum. Or the preceding play, when the defense allowed him to avoid a safety. Or late in the game, score tied, Iowa backed up in its own end zone, holding isn't called and Beathard completes a long pass to get the Hawks out of trouble.

Now, I have to make a point that I fully understand will be completely ignored by some logic-challenged posters here. I am not referring to these things as luck. Obviously, Beathard played one hell of a game, and those three plays were indications of just how well he played. I cited them because I was asked to name plays that might have allowed ISU to win that game. NOT because I am claiming they were simply bad luck for ISU.

 

[HotelAlphaWilcoKilo]

Say what you will, but I'm not in my parents basement and im not in Battle Creek. I have no doubt my net worth dwarfs yours, so stay in the shallow end where you belong.

How's that walk with Christ going?

 

[linkshero]

Michigan fans are so cute. They may win someday with JH as their head coach, but they have Jake Rudock as their starting QB.....They will lose three more this year.

 

[srams21]

First, some of you aren't reading what I wrote. I specifically said that coaching and talent are largely responsible for a lot of things that look lucky. Obviously, I couldn't make a 57-yard field goal. Obviously, if the Hawk receiver hadn't been alert he couldn't have grabbed the fumble and scored a TD.

Now, to answer your question.........Toledo is easy. I could pick half a dozen plays in that game -- they fumbled into the end zone and recovered it for a TD, too -- but the most obvious came at the end of regulation. Score tied, last play of the game, ball at the 14, ISU's kicker was honorable mention all-conference last year and didn't miss from inside 40 yards, but he misses the FG that would have won the game and ISU ends up losing in two overtimes. He makes that chip shot ISU is 3-3 right now.

In the Iowa game, let's remember that the final score is not indicative of that game. The final Iowa score came because ISU was in desperation mode, trailing by 7 with not much time remaining. That doesn't take away from King's pick; he made a nice play. But the point is that we aren't looking for a two-touchdown turnaround.

The fumble recovered for a TD is one play. Another would be when a deep reserve linebacker missed a tackle and let Beathard escape from his end zone for a 44-yard gain. This was at a point when ISU had the lead and the momentum. Or the preceding play, when the defense allowed him to avoid a safety. Or late in the game, score tied, Iowa backed up in its own end zone, holding isn't called and Beathard completes a long pass to get the Hawks out of trouble.

Now, I have to make a point that I fully understand will be completely ignored by some logic-challenged posters here. I am not referring to these things as luck. Obviously, Beathard played one hell of a game, and those three plays were indications of just how well he played. I cited them because I was asked to name plays that might have allowed ISU to win that game. NOT because I am claiming they were simply bad luck for ISU.

Iowa State's entire football history is filled with "ifs" and bounces they didn't get. At some point over a 100 year sample your just a pathetic program.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Wow, ive never seen so many delirious people lining up for playoff tickets.

It's funny to hear them say that it would be a big disappointment if or when they go 13-0 and we're locked out of the playoffs. #1 - 13-0? Laughable. #2, they are already waiting to be disrespected.

I was on that board and I'm shocked that I come here more now as it's more "normal"..

You kind of sound like Iowa State fans, being the little brother to the other in state university.

 

[torbee]

What two games would ISU win? I suppose they could beat themselves.

They would beat North Texas and Iowa State. Because Iowa State sucks.

 

[torbee]

Similarly, if three or four plays had gone differently, ISU would be 4-2 instead of 2-4 and people would be talking the chances of a bowl game and the near-certainty that Rhoads would keep his job.

Making or not making those plays has a luck component, but mostly it's coaching, talent, that kind of thing.

Wow, when did they institute plays worth 20 points in football? I'm literally LOLing at that one.

Even by Lone Clone standards, that is a huge stretch.

Dude should stick to his equally crappy political takes, I mean they are wrong and easily refuted as well, but not as asinine as this claim.

 

[JRHawk2003]

Say what you will, but I'm not in my parents basement and im not in Battle Creek. I have no doubt my net worth dwarfs yours, so stay in the shallow end where you belong.

Awesome...yes bragging about net worth on a message board....class....

Where is SP when you need him?

 

[gojojo]

I said that winning the close games reflects well on the team. I never suggested Iowa is only 7-0 because of luck. But the OP was about the football board, and a lot of people seem to have forgotten that about a month ago, the consensus was to fire the coach because the prospects for the football program were so bleak. And if, as you say, those four plays -- not sure which ones you mean, will take your word on it -- had gone differently, that would still be the consensus, IMHO.

Similarly, if three or four plays had gone differently, ISU would be 4-2 instead of 2-4 and people would be talking the chances of a bowl game and the near-certainty that Rhoads would keep his job. Instead, the talk is about who the new coach will be and what the university has to do to support him, whoever he is.

Making or not making those plays has a luck component, but mostly it's coaching, talent, that kind of thing.

couple of corrections on a few of your points in each post.

MK has only missed 3 XP's, not 4 and one was due to a very poor hold and spot. He is 5-5 on kicks over 50yds, so that kick against Pitt, while certainly no gimme, was far from lucky or fortunate. Kid has a cannon.

ISU would not be 4-2 with a couple fortunate bounces. You point to the fumble recovery for a td vs Iowa; well MV was following the whole play. Sure he could have muffed the recovery, but that would have been more of a blown play on his part. Iowa also fumbled going in for the lead late in the 4th. That game was closer than the score indicated, but ISU did nothing on offense in the 2nd half that scared anyone. That wasn't TCU, TTEch, or Baylor's D you were playing that Saturday. Congrats tho, your 17 points was higher than the average total Iowa is giving up this year.

ISU would be 2-5 with Iowa's schedule if you swapped out Iowa/ISU as you can't play yourself obviously. You aren't winning in Madison or Evanston, nor would you beat Illinois. I'm guessing Ill St would give you all you could handle, but I bet you pull it out.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

Awesome...yes bragging about net worth on a message board....class....

Where is SP when you need him?

Again, you guys love to twist things out of context. While I'm quite comfortable and not embarrassed to say so, I also only responded that way because he said "Guy living in his mom's basement..." Usually it's guys that have never been successful that make statements like that.

 

[JWolf74]

Awesome...yes bragging about net worth on a message board....class....

Where is SP when you need him?

I fear he was injured badly after jumping off the Seahawk bandwagon.

 

[srams21]

Again, you guys love to twist things out of context. While I'm quite comfortable and not embarrassed to say so, I also only responded that way because he said "Guy living in his mom's basement..." Usually it's guys that have never been successful that make statements like that.

Why are you all of a sudden hanging out on an Iowa message board and instigating the fan base? Usually its guys living in their parents basements that take actions like that.

 

[gojojo]

First, some of you aren't reading what I wrote. I specifically said that coaching and talent are largely responsible for a lot of things that look lucky. Obviously, I couldn't make a 57-yard field goal. Obviously, if the Hawk receiver hadn't been alert he couldn't have grabbed the fumble and scored a TD.

Now, to answer your question.........Toledo is easy. I could pick half a dozen plays in that game -- they fumbled into the end zone and recovered it for a TD, too -- but the most obvious came at the end of regulation. Score tied, last play of the game, ball at the 14, ISU's kicker was honorable mention all-conference last year and didn't miss from inside 40 yards, but he misses the FG that would have won the game and ISU ends up losing in two overtimes. He makes that chip shot ISU is 3-3 right now.

In the Iowa game, let's remember that the final score is not indicative of that game. The final Iowa score came because ISU was in desperation mode, trailing by 7 with not much time remaining. That doesn't take away from King's pick; he made a nice play. But the point is that we aren't looking for a two-touchdown turnaround.

The fumble recovered for a TD is one play. Another would be when a deep reserve linebacker missed a tackle and let Beathard escape from his end zone for a 44-yard gain. This was at a point when ISU had the lead and the momentum. Or the preceding play, when the defense allowed him to avoid a safety. Or late in the game, score tied, Iowa backed up in its own end zone, holding isn't called and Beathard completes a long pass to get the Hawks out of trouble.

Now, I have to make a point that I fully understand will be completely ignored by some logic-challenged posters here. I am not referring to these things as luck. Obviously, Beathard played one hell of a game, and those three plays were indications of just how well he played. I cited them because I was asked to name plays that might have allowed ISU to win that game. NOT because I am claiming they were simply bad luck for ISU.

you have me convinced; we could have beaten USC in that Orange Bowl if only a few plays went the other way.

If Jermelle downs't fumble after a 30 yard run to midfield momentum wouldn't have swung and we punch in a score, if we don't screw up the end of the first half and get no score...hell we should have been up 24-10 at half. Then take away BB's int in the 4th quarter, we win. Damn it!

 

[Lone Clone]

Wow, when did they institute plays worth 20 points in football? I'm literally LOLing at that one.

Even by Lone Clone standards, that is a huge stretch.

Dude should stick to his equally crappy political takes, I mean they are wrong and easily refuted as well, but not as asinine as this claim.

You ought to be able to read, even if you can't think.

 

[TailgateTom]

Say what you will, but I'm not in my parents basement and im not in Battle Creek. I have no doubt my net worth dwarfs yours, so stay in the shallow end where you belong.

Oh yeah, well my net worth dwarfs yours. AND My dad can beat up your dad.

 

[iammrhawkeyes]

Oh yeah, well my net worth dwarfs yours. AND My dad can beat up your dad.

And my sweet corn is better than your sweet corn.

 

[torbee]

You ought to be able to read, even if you can't think.

 

[DrVenkman]

Again, you guys love to twist things out of context. While I'm quite comfortable and not embarrassed to say so, I also only responded that way because he said "Guy living in his mom's basement..." Usually it's guys that have never been successful that make statements like that.

Just remember, it's pronounced RUE- dock.

It can get confusing.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

Why are you all of a sudden hanging out on an Iowa message board and instigating the fan base? Usually its guys living in their parents basements that take actions like that.

I've been posting over here on and off for months. You'll find I even had a 'good luck, hawks' thread. Than everyone here started ripping Michigan fans about the punter death threats, then lumped me into it. I don't take insults laying down, which is why were here. I was critical about my own team and it grew from there.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

And my sweet corn is better than your sweet corn.

Great, you live in Iowa - why would I argue that?

 

[longliveCS40]

I've been posting over here on and off for months. You'll find I even had a 'good luck, hawks' thread. Than everyone here started ripping Michigan fans about the punter death threats, then lumped me into it. I don't take insults laying down, which is why were here. I was critical about my own team and it grew from there.

Do you take insults lying down?

 

[Chuck C]

Say what you will, but I'm not in my parents basement and im not in Battle Creek. I have no doubt my net worth dwarfs yours, so stay in the shallow end where you belong.

Oh yeah

Do you take insults lying down?

I'm guessing he takes them head down, ass up.

 

[srams21]

I've been posting over here on and off for months. You'll find I even had a 'good luck, hawks' thread. Than everyone here started ripping Michigan fans about the punter death threats, then lumped me into it. I don't take insults laying down, which is why were here. I was critical about my own team and it grew from there.

So, why did you come here in the first place? Go post on the Michigan board. You don't find me over on your board instigating a fan base. If, as you say, you began posting here on and off, could you return to the off phase of your postings? Thanks.

 

[MichiganManLifer]

So, why did you come here in the first place? Go post on the Michigan board. You don't find me over on your board instigating a fan base. If, as you say, you began posting here on and off, could you return to the off phase of your postings? Thanks.

Or I can stay here, despite the fact that a few here are complete jackasses. Most have been decent though, so I think I'll stay. I assume you live in some small town that doesn't like change or outsiders?

You'll get your wish that I'll avoid the kindergarten you call a football board. That place is the definition of short man syndrome.

 

[Titanhawk2]

Wow, ive never seen so many delirious people lining up for playoff tickets.

It's funny to hear them say that it would be a big disappointment if or when they go 13-0 and we're locked out of the playoffs. #1 - 13-0? Laughable. #2, they are already waiting to be disrespected.

I was on that board and I'm shocked that I come here more now as it's more "normal"..

You're welcome for your quarterback, now go home

 

[srams21]

Or I can stay here, despite the fact that a few here are complete jackasses. Most have been decent though, so I think I'll stay. I assume you live in some small town that doesn't like change or outsiders?

You'll get your wish that I'll avoid the kindergarten you call a football board. That place is the definition of short man syndrome.

I do not live in a small town. Nice try though. I have moved around enough and lived outside of Iowa so I am fine with outsiders and change. I also expect that if I go somewhere else (such as another team's board) then I should probably not instigate and become arrogant if I want to be accepted. This practice works well no matter where one goes in life(even in the virtual world such as this).

You guys have the right coach for the job there and I'm sure the next few years will be fun for Michigan football again. Best of luck and if you want to stay around here you may want to employ some humility and play nice.

 

[Chuck C]

Or I can stay here, despite the fact that a few here are complete jackasses.

Only a few jackasses on HROT? You severely underestimated there. Right now you're chum in the water.

 

[hawkssox1]

Give them a break. They've having an outstanding year. Overcoming some injuries, and the ball has been bouncing Hawkeye-way a lot. Schedule isn't very strong, which will hurt them when it comes time to pass out the post-season playoff spots.

Then he shouldn't bring a knife to a gun fight!!

 

[Vroom_C14]

The year isn't over yet... A lot of football to be played, wise guy.

For the "haze in blue" the B1G Championship sure is.

 

[cidhawkeye]

First, some of you aren't reading what I wrote. I specifically said that coaching and talent are largely responsible for a lot of things that look lucky. Obviously, I couldn't make a 57-yard field goal. Obviously, if the Hawk receiver hadn't been alert he couldn't have grabbed the fumble and scored a TD.

Now, to answer your question.........Toledo is easy. I could pick half a dozen plays in that game -- they fumbled into the end zone and recovered it for a TD, As opposed to not fumbling at all and scoring on the next play?. too -- but the most obvious came at the end of regulation. Score tied, last play of the game, ball at the 14, ISU's kicker was honorable mention all-conference last year and didn't miss from inside 40 yards, but he misses the FG that would have won the game and ISU ends up losing in two overtimes. He makes that chip shot ISU is 3-3 right now.

In the Iowa game, let's remember that the final score is not indicative of that game. The final Iowa score came because ISU was in desperation mode, trailing by 7 with not much time remaining. That doesn't take away from King's pick; he made a nice play. But the point is that we aren't looking for a two-touchdown turnaround.

The fumble recovered for a TD is one play. As opposed to not fumbling and scoring on the next play? Another would be when a deep reserve linebacker missed a tackle Why is he in the game? Perhaps a coaching mistake? and let Beathard escape from his end zone for a 44-yard gain. This was at a point when ISU had the lead and the momentum. Or the preceding play, when the defense allowed him to avoid a safety. Lack of skill? Or late in the game, score tied, Iowa backed up in its own end zone, holding isn't called Because all holding is called? and Beathard completes a long pass to get the Hawks out of trouble.

Now, I have to make a point that I fully understand will be completely ignored by some logic-challenged posters here. I am not referring to these things as luck. Obviously, Beathard played one hell of a game, and those three plays were indications of just how well he played. I cited them because I was asked to name plays that might have allowed ISU to win that game. NOT because I am claiming they were simply bad luck for ISU.

I haven't had the misery of watching ISU play this year other than late in the Iowa game where Canzeri coughed up the ball that bounced the other way. There are probably several of those plays in each game that would bury ISU even deeper but hey 'that's football' But Lone thank you for actually answering the question this time.