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Zelenskyy/Trump press conference...


At least this was out in the open so we can see exactly what Zelenskyy is. More will be reveled about Mr. Zelenskyy. Stay tuned. You actually have no control over any of this, and the adults are now in charge.
Are you suggesting Mr. Zelensky has conflicts of interest and enriched himself in his role as leader of his country? And maybe even has character flaws? Holy hell a person like that should never lead a country, right?!?

Oh yeah, and if you think shouting because you can't control your emotions while in the oval office = adults, that's some funny stuff.
 
SIAP - part of trump's post.

“It’s amazing what comes out through emotion, and I have determined that President Zelenskyy is not ready for Peace if America is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations,” Trump continued. “I don’t want advantage, I want PEACE. He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office. He can come back when he is ready for Peace.”.
Zelensky has said for years there is no peace without sovereignty. As well he shouldn't.

Just because Trump is a pussy who would give up half of the United States to Russia for pennies on the ruble doesn't mean actually good leaders view things that way.
 
For the conservative alphas only, stupid Dems ignore: Does anyone know if Biden ever lost his temper before? I'm trying to own some libcucktard posters and I need this information to completely DESTROY them.

I usually do my on research, so thanks.
He lost it on a union worker during a photo opp once and screamed in his face "I don't work for you!"

If you Google the quote plus biden you can find videos of it. Pretty pathetic showing on sleepy Joe's part.
 
For the conservative alphas only, stupid Dems ignore: Does anyone know if Biden ever lost his temper before? I'm trying to own some libcucktard posters and I need this information to completely DESTROY them.

I usually do my on research, so thanks.
 
This is correct. We can sell them arms and ammo. Im totally fine with that. We can advise them. Fine. But to give away American dollars with no chance of getting it back, supposedly, I am against that.

Russia, IMO, doesnt have eyes on further aggression. Just my guess.

The only good that has come of this is that Russia has been depleted of their own arms and material.

Our country is going broke, so is Europe. If Europe cant find the money, maybe Ukraine isn't worth defending.

Why didn't Ukraine have defense in place to prevent this? With Russia on their border and having just taken Crimea. Every country in the world needs to act like they are on their own. We cannot be the worlds police force for minor stuff like this. I do consider this minor. To be fair, Ukraine did an amazing job with their situation on their own with the help they had, but its time for this WW1 style stalemate to end. And no, that doesn't include Ukraine getting all of Ukraine back. Sorry it doesn't. I leave in realville. The rest of you live in a place where you want to throw American money to a guy leading a countries defense that has shown he is in a weak position.

Quite simply, if you all are not willing to risk real American lives and real American money on this and actually winning this, with our boots on the ground, we need this to be over and that involves telling Zalenskyy what's up. And Putin too.
Hate to tell you. We weren’t giving it away, genius.

That’s Trump's spin on it. We supply weapons and they test them for us. We train them in their use. Their troops are the guinea pigs.
 
Are you suggesting Mr. Zelensky has conflicts of interest and enriched himself in his role as leader of his country? And maybe even has character flaws? Holy hell a person like that should never lead a country, right?!?

Oh yeah, and if you think shouting because you can't control your emotions while in the oval office = adults, that's some funny stuff.
Where did I say any of this? I answered your concern in your original post, and even provided documentation from a left leaning media source.

I get that you are entitled to your opinion, but your opinion doesn't change documented fact.

I'm happy this happened in public. I'm for more of this.
 
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I don't know man. Since this conversation has happened I have had 2 separate Trump supporting clients call me throwing their hands up in the air. People are slowly but surely getting there I think/hope.
A lot of the problem in the first term Trump had some adults around him. To check his worst impulses and manage him somewhat. That lead voters into thinking his 2 term would be more of the same. Similar to when Dubya got elected. Voters thought they would get another Bush Sr term. They didn’t understand the experience difference.
 
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I know i repeat this all the time-we have thousands and thousands of Abrams tanks and sent 31. We did not send any of our aircraft and are still making it difficult for our Allies to supply their US made aircraft. Biden should have done more with weapons that would have mattered.
 
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At least this was out in the open so we can see exactly what Zelenskyy is. More will be reveled about Mr. Zelenskyy. Stay tuned. You actually have no control over any of this, and the adults are now in charge.
You are a dumb child
 
If you had an ounce of self awareness you would realize people don’t want to debate you because it is the equivalent of arguing with a four year old. You don’t have the mental acuity to form a coherent argument.
Oh the actual level of self own in this is strong.

I dont take your insults to heart. Which is all that the left on here has. I get it. These are times that are rough for y'all.

I've lived awhile and have done quite a bit so my life experience teaches me that I can derive my self worth from that not a message board. I come here to be entertained and enjoy debating with those that are willing. It does you no good at all to never have your worldview challenged. What is to be learned from that? Isnt that the point of life? The learn and to love so to speak. I try my very best to stay positive and not level insults on here. It's giving into base urges and one cannot learn from that. You only get the 5 second dopamine surge from the satisfaction from the insult you leveled. Not worth it to me generally. But I also fail time to time. So if your post makes you fell better about yourself then fine. Then have at it. But it doesnt affect me or my life. I post this now so as to get you to think about yourself just for a second and the way in which you handle yourself. I think you can do better. Peace. I wont be engaging any further posts with you that simply question my age and intelligence as well as resorting to the oft quoted 'self awareness' trope.
 
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On brand for a coward and a cuck. Never change, pussy.
Hey butt pirate. Instead of being a useless Marxist bathhouse bitch. Why don’t you get off your damn keyboard and run for office. You have everything in life figured out. You can have some of your bathhouse buddies apart of your cabinet. Little flick can be your special cornhole fvcker.
 
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Where did I say any of this? I answered your concern in your original post, and even provided documentation from a left leaning media source.

I get that you are entitled to your opinion, but your opinion doesn't change documented fact.

I'm happy this happened in public. I'm for more of this.
You said, "At least this was out in the open so we can see exactly what Zelenskyy is. More will be reveled about Mr. Zelenskyy. Stay tuned."

What exactly are you referring to with this teaser? I'm guessing it isn't that Zelensky is a great human who visits children's hospitals, but I could have read you wrong...

And you called this adult-like behavior. LOL.
 
I know i repeat this all the time-we have thousands and thousands of Abrams tanks and sent 31. We did not send any of our aircraft and are still making it difficult for our Allies to supply their US made aircraft. Biden should have done more with weapons that would have mattered.
  • Air Defense
  • Three Patriot air defense batteries and munitions;
  • 12 National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) and munitions;
  • HAWK air defense systems and munitions;
  • AIM-7, RIM-7, and AIM-9M missiles for air defense;
  • More than 3,000 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles;
  • Avenger air defense systems;
  • VAMPIRE counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems (c-UAS) and munitions;
  • c-UAS gun trucks and ammunition;
  • Mobile c-UAS laser-guided rocket systems;
  • Other c-UAS equipment;
  • Anti-aircraft guns and ammunition;
  • Air defense systems components;
  • Equipment to integrate Western launchers, missiles, and radars with Ukraine’s systems;
  • Equipment to support and sustain Ukraine’s existing air defense capabilities; and
  • 21 air surveillance radars.
Fires

  • More than 40 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) and ammunition;
  • Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb launchers and guided rockets;
  • More than 200 155mm Howitzers and more than 3,000,000 155mm artillery rounds;
  • More than 7,000 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
  • More than 100,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems;
  • 72 105mm Howitzers and 1,000,000 105mm artillery rounds;
  • 10,000 203mm artillery rounds;
  • More than 400,000 152mm artillery rounds;
  • Approximately 40,000 130mm artillery rounds;
  • 40,000 122mm artillery rounds;
  • 60,000 122mm GRAD rockets;
  • More than 300 mortar systems;
  • More than 700,000 mortar rounds;
  • More than 100 counter-artillery and counter-mortar radars; and
  • More than 50 multi-mission radars.
Ground Maneuver

  • 31 Abrams tanks;
  • 45 T-72B tanks;
  • More than 300 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles;
  • Four Bradley Fire Support Team vehicles;
  • More than 400 Stryker Armored Personnel Carriers;
  • More than 900 M113 Armored Personnel Carriers;
  • More than 400 M1117 Armored Security Vehicles;
  • More than 1,000 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Vehicles;
  • More than 5,000 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
  • More than 200 light tactical vehicles;
  • 300 armored medical treatment vehicles;
  • 80 trucks and more than 200 trailers to transport heavy equipment;
  • More than 1,000 tactical vehicles to tow and haul equipment;
  • 153 tactical vehicles to recover equipment;
  • 10 command post vehicles;
  • 30 ammunition support vehicles;
  • 29 armored bridging systems;
  • 20 logistics support vehicles and equipment;
  • 239 fuel tankers and 105 fuel trailers;
  • 58 water trailers;
  • Six armored utility trucks;
  • 125mm, 120mm, and 105mm tank ammunition;
  • More than 1,800,000 rounds of 25mm ammunition; and
  • Mine clearing equipment.
Aircraft and Unmanned Aerial Systems

  • 20 Mi-17 helicopters;
  • Switchblade Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS);
  • Phoenix Ghost UAS;
  • CyberLux K8 UAS;
  • Higher-600 UAS;
  • Jump-20 UAS;
  • Hornet UAS
  • Puma UAS;
  • Scan Eagle UAS;
  • Penguin UAS;
  • Raven UAS;
  • Other UAS;
  • Two radars for UAS;
  • High-speed Anti-radiation missiles (HARMs);
  • Air-to-ground munitions;
  • Support equipment for F-16s;
  • More than 6,000 Zuni aircraft rockets;
  • More than 20,000 Hydra-70 aircraft rockets; and
  • Munitions for UAS.
Anti-armor and Small Arms

  • More than 10,000 Javelin anti-armor systems;
  • More than 120,000 other anti-armor systems and munitions;
  • More than 10,000 Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
  • More than 50,000 grenade launchers and small arms;
  • More than 500,000,000 rounds of small arms ammunition and grenades;
  • Laser-guided rocket systems and munitions;
  • Rocket launchers and ammunition; and
  • Anti-armor mines.
Maritime

  • Two Harpoon coastal defense systems and anti-ship missiles;
  • More than 100 coastal and riverine patrol boats;
  • Unmanned Coastal Defense Vessels; and
  • Port and harbor security equipment.
Other capabilities

  • M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel munitions;
  • C-4 explosives, demolition munitions, and demolition equipment for obstacle clearing;
  • Obstacle emplacement equipment;
  • Counter air defense capability;
  • More than 100,000 sets of body armor and helmets;
  • Tactical secure communications systems and support equipment;
  • Four satellite communications (SATCOM) antennas;
  • SATCOM terminals and services;
  • Electronic warfare (EW) and counter-EW equipment;
  • Commercial satellite imagery services;
  • Night vision devices, surveillance and thermal imagery systems, optics, and rangefinders;
  • Equipment to protect critical national infrastructure;
  • Explosive ordnance disposal equipment and protective gear;
  • Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear protective equipment;
  • Medical supplies, including first aid kits, bandages, monitors, and other equipment;
  • Field equipment, cold weather gear, generators, and spare parts; and
  • Support for training, maintenance, and sustainment activities.
 
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