You're on the up and up over there. You're fair with everyone and unlike here you give warnings and reasons if some are getting too close to crossing the line. Take Wild Turk. Hes pretty much the Hawkeye equivalent of me over on BWI. Breaks no rules, gives his opinions no matter who's feelings it hurts and supports his guys. He rubs some the wrong way, some would rather he be banned yet you and everyone there knows that's just being thin skinned and silly. I for one am glad you aren't letting the members run that board although they already do one hell of a job policing the place themselves.
Okie St. PBP
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Iowa has had a soft schedule all season, showed today. I have seen all season when your wrestlers killed a nobody and most of this fan base giving out "A" and counting points at Nationals off those wins. OSU loss wrestlers from injury, weight changes, subs at 57 and a average 57 moving up to 65 against a great Iowa wrestler and still beat Iowa by 15. Stop worrying about pushing somebody out and calling stalling, how about trying to score from top! Also big pickup recruit today, Jakason Burks OSU
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[QUOTE="T.A.J., post: 6285456, member: 97496" I've been banned probably ten times on this board. I'd like just once for your mod to give me a reason as to why I was banned.[/QUOTE]
Banned ten times and you're completely innocent ? You poor guy.
No one gets banned from this board. No one. If you were banned 10 times you freaking deserved it. Stop playing innocent victim.
Banned ten times and you're completely innocent ? You poor guy.
No one gets banned from this board. No one. If you were banned 10 times you freaking deserved it. Stop playing innocent victim.
Ok...well great talk guys! I'll be stepping away now. I'll talk to you come Bigs or Nationals.
Under a new name of course...
Under a new name of course...
I have no power trip. You went off the road yet I did not ban you. You wonder why? Because I know what your about, wrestling. I do not ban people, fight against it every damn day. However, there is a line. As far as Vodka? He specifically brought it to smalls attention. I did not ban him but know why he was, as does he. As for you? I will always welcome you on BWI. Peace.
And it was brought here by Penn State fans.
I like some of the people on your board, but it’s a circle jerk with only true believers being allowed to speak.
I once made a comment on your board along the lines that “money runs every athletic department. The PSU football program, if academics were the true purpose of the Univeristy, would have been shut down by the board of trustees. But It just brings in too much money”
Doesn’t sound too controversial if you ask me, but you all acted like I set a school bus full of pre-schoolers on fire. Thin skin is a PSU thing on a lot of levels. Go away.
Iowa friends (and the ones who don’t like me) sorry I fed the trolls.
That's simply not teue and this poster was specifically called out. Give it a rest on the academics. You're simply wrong and the statistics speak for themselves.
Why don't you two get a room or better yet just STFU! Crap is getting old!
I was right. Okie state backed off the mat in the neutral position when they had the option to circle in and wrestle through the position. The ref just didn't call it as it's stated in the rule. Again, that didn't determine the final score of the dual, but it definitely impacts matches. CP called out how egregious it was as well. Not sure what point you're trying to make.
You really do love the power of being an online forum moderator don't you. You're on a completely separate forum now bragging about your moderation actions on another board. Cool dude. Glad you have that going for you in life.
Did you just make this new account to be a drama queen or what? You're accounts less than 2 weeks old but you gossip and b*tch about posters more than a middle school girl. If you want to talk wrestling please do, but right now you're just one of many PSU trolls hanging around here.
My thoughts:
It's tough watching Spencer Lee wrestle with whatever he has going on. This is a kid who never made wrestling with a torn ACL an excuse for a loss, so, I'm not surprised that he isn't making excuses now. I hope he is close to 100% in a couple of weeks. As for Picc, you have to hand it to him, he came to wrestle.
First, I did think the officiating was awful, but, it went against both teams. I think Fix clearly had the takedown they reviewed. I thought Desanto wrestled very tough. Fix is very good, and I'll take him in a rematch, but, Desanto has proved over and over again that he is right there with the best. I also loved the way he handled himself after the loss. Desanto is one of my favorite non-PSU wrestlers on the mat. His tenacity and non-stop pace are fun to watch.
I wasn't impressed with Murin early in the match, but, it was good to see him show the fight at the end. He came extremely close to grabbing to back points and stealing that match at the end.
Lugo has gotten better and better and is very dangerous at this point. He is tough to score on, and he has gotten on his offense more and more as the confidence has come. That was an impressive victory today.
Young is one of those guys who it seems doesn't know how good he is. It's like he is afraid to completely let it go and take risks. I think when he creates action, it is to his advantage against most kids. He was in a position where Iowa needed bonus, and I just didn't see him driving hard to go after it.
Marinelli is a beast. He is so ridiculously strong. I haven't seen many get a 3 quarter to work at the D1 level, but, he's done it many times. He is a blast to watch, and his battles with Cenzo should be a lot of fun for all wrestling fans.
Bowman is pretty much taking one for the team. That was a tough pin to take, but, I don't think it is due to lack of effort. He is just over-matched.
As many of you have said, I've seen Wilcke wrestle very well, but, he just has a style that keeps almost every match close, regardless of the opponent's level, which has him in danger of losing in almost any match, but, can keep him close against higher rated competition as well. I thought he wrestled hard today.
I couldn't believe that Warner didn't just start neutral in the 3rd. Weigel is not yet in full wrestling shape, and he was gassed. It's hard to say for sure, but, if they start in neutral, I liked Warner's chances.
I thought Stoll wrestled decent. After the last couple matches, I thought he would get ridden out in the 3rd. White is extremely tough to open up your offense against. Cassar has been pretty much a takedown machine, but, at Scuffle, White tied him up to the point that he couldn't get a shot off.
My $.02
It's tough watching Spencer Lee wrestle with whatever he has going on. This is a kid who never made wrestling with a torn ACL an excuse for a loss, so, I'm not surprised that he isn't making excuses now. I hope he is close to 100% in a couple of weeks. As for Picc, you have to hand it to him, he came to wrestle.
First, I did think the officiating was awful, but, it went against both teams. I think Fix clearly had the takedown they reviewed. I thought Desanto wrestled very tough. Fix is very good, and I'll take him in a rematch, but, Desanto has proved over and over again that he is right there with the best. I also loved the way he handled himself after the loss. Desanto is one of my favorite non-PSU wrestlers on the mat. His tenacity and non-stop pace are fun to watch.
I wasn't impressed with Murin early in the match, but, it was good to see him show the fight at the end. He came extremely close to grabbing to back points and stealing that match at the end.
Lugo has gotten better and better and is very dangerous at this point. He is tough to score on, and he has gotten on his offense more and more as the confidence has come. That was an impressive victory today.
Young is one of those guys who it seems doesn't know how good he is. It's like he is afraid to completely let it go and take risks. I think when he creates action, it is to his advantage against most kids. He was in a position where Iowa needed bonus, and I just didn't see him driving hard to go after it.
Marinelli is a beast. He is so ridiculously strong. I haven't seen many get a 3 quarter to work at the D1 level, but, he's done it many times. He is a blast to watch, and his battles with Cenzo should be a lot of fun for all wrestling fans.
Bowman is pretty much taking one for the team. That was a tough pin to take, but, I don't think it is due to lack of effort. He is just over-matched.
As many of you have said, I've seen Wilcke wrestle very well, but, he just has a style that keeps almost every match close, regardless of the opponent's level, which has him in danger of losing in almost any match, but, can keep him close against higher rated competition as well. I thought he wrestled hard today.
I couldn't believe that Warner didn't just start neutral in the 3rd. Weigel is not yet in full wrestling shape, and he was gassed. It's hard to say for sure, but, if they start in neutral, I liked Warner's chances.
I thought Stoll wrestled decent. After the last couple matches, I thought he would get ridden out in the 3rd. White is extremely tough to open up your offense against. Cassar has been pretty much a takedown machine, but, at Scuffle, White tied him up to the point that he couldn't get a shot off.
My $.02
Great post. The part about Young is spot on. He's a dark horse threat to make the finals this year, especially if he somehow avoids Deakin on the opposite side of Nolf (I think Deakin's length takes away a lot Young's skills). He could also drop a winnable match in the R16 because he doesn't open up. Big gap between his floor and ceiling.
man, vodka, i normally enjoy you, but this is so wrong. What was the takedown count? Weigel might have got away with a bit, but so did Stoll. I guess the ACC uses HS kids, that one looked young!
But, all the BS reading through this thread made me forget all of the smart comments that I was going to use to have fun with. So I can't even gloat right. Probably for the best-it will circle around some day.
Something definitely wrong with Spencer, did not expect that. Gfeller's ribs must still be hurting some. Preston has a month to get in shape and be ready, believe he will.
Spot on indeed. Both Young and Wilcke drive me in sane at times in that they both especially Wilcke, seem to wrestle down to the competition. I think both Wilcke and Young could be semi-finalists or could go 1-2 at NCAAs. I would love to see them open their offense EVERY match.
Sadly, I concur. And I'm not sure why TnT didn't have him start in Neutral. The guy was gassed and I think Warner could have gotten a relatively easy TD.
Okie State outwrestled Iowa hands down. They wrestled really well. Iowa's best match was Lugo imo. (And Marinelli, but he did what was expected vs that opponent)
Okie State had more takedowns I'm sure but that doesn't change that stall rule. It's literally written that if you back out in neutral when you could have circled in, it's an automatic stall call.
The rule isn't written that way from top/bottom, but guys are definitely stalling when they are running someone off the mat. Weigel was the worst offender on top for Okie State and Stoll was for Iowa. Both were doing it. I'd much prefer if the refs call it on both guys rather than not call it on either.
From neutral it's not a judgement call. It's automatic. The only time it can't really be called is if a guy's sprawl or leg defense took him out. That wasn't the case in the first period at 133. That wasn't the case at 197 in the first period.
Again, it had no bearing on the outcome of the dual, but it does affect how matches are wrestled and I'm going to rant about it in the Iowa pbp thread as I'm seeing it occur.
This Okie State team looks good. They look so different than just a few years ago with Heil. Fix is one of my favorite non-hawks in NCAA wrestling right now. Congrats on the big win today.
Agreed. That was a bad call imo and probably the only worthy challenge of the day by Smith. John's a competitor, but he throws the brick too often. And the stoppage time for the locked hands discussion at 197 was ridiculous. Imo the worst part of the replay system and coaches arguing calls is that it gives wrestlers a breather. In this sport, conditioning decides matches often and "time-outs" have never been an option. I like having the option to replay, but there should be limitations. Throwing the brick b/c you want the ref to award a pt for hands to the face is insane to me.
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Coaches are using replay as the new fake injury time.
I believe both myself and ‘Shoe gave you likes on your first BWI post. I can only attest to the reason I did.
We've seen basically one match from Wilcke that would give Hawk fans any hope that he's an AA candidate. One!
Wilcke's results are pretty much what you'd expect based on his ranking coming out of high school.
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Our mods need to start banning you guys more aggressively. Similar to how your mods run their board. Hotshoe should be calling you guys out on this site and on your board where Iowa is constantly trashed.
I did. Actually called one post the dumbest I've ever seen. Also agree with lionlover that poster above should be banned for his post.
I’m critical of every program, even my own. I’ve taken coach to task on the boards and once in person.
I root against Iowa every time they wrestle Rutgers. That will never change. I actually don’t root against PSU unless under those circumstances. I do root against the portion of your fan base who behaves like dolts.
And if Rutgers and Iowa are neck and neck for something, I would surely expect the people here to rib me as an outsider. I am a visitor here, and guests should be welcome (which they are) so long as the guest realizes they are a guest (which I do). And if god willing Rutgers does start beating Iowa wrestling, I sure as shit wouldn’t come here with the attitude some of y’all do.
Jason Nolf can win with class. Maybe some of the PSU fanbass Should take note.
You are missing about a dozen others. Owen James, TAO, nitlion..............
Da fuq?
I guess the Mecca of modern morals is happy valley?
Rutgers Athletics department makes a few jokes and Penn State fans hold a grudge for life.
The actions of their own school however may not be discussed.
I would say now I’ve seen it all, but there is always one more PSU fan boy whose whole identity is attached to the success of people they don’t know.
funny story that is completely off topic. Sunday before the dual I was discussing the high school state tournament that concluded Saturday night with a couple of guys that sit behind us. They asked for an opinion of the officiating for a certain match and the official, and how would I describe that officials work. My response; I would describe him as a clitoris-he is shiny smooth on top, and overly sensitive. So if I smelled like beer, it was because it was spit on me. My red face was from my wife slapping me.
The backstory-for the first time in 52 years of being involved in wrestling, I was thrown out a tournament. Just for telling this same official that he and his partner needed to split up, so there was only one moron on the mat. See, overly sensitive!
The funny part was I had all my stuff in hand to leave, as I was driving from Marlow to Tulsa-from watching on kid wrestle high school to watch the other ref kids state.
So ya'll talking bad about the official reminds me of the two sides (by the way, the oldest called stalling on an 8 year old)
The backstory-for the first time in 52 years of being involved in wrestling, I was thrown out a tournament. Just for telling this same official that he and his partner needed to split up, so there was only one moron on the mat. See, overly sensitive!
The funny part was I had all my stuff in hand to leave, as I was driving from Marlow to Tulsa-from watching on kid wrestle high school to watch the other ref kids state.
So ya'll talking bad about the official reminds me of the two sides (by the way, the oldest called stalling on an 8 year old
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