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‘We don’t work for you’: Fox News’s Neil Cavuto rebukes Trump for slamming network

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Fox News host Neil Cavuto delivered a scorching rebuke on Thursday to President Trump’s recent criticism that the cable network “isn’t working for us anymore,” and called out his tenuous relationship with the media.

“Mr. President, we don’t work for you. I don’t work for you,” Cavuto said in the closing monologue of “Your World with Neil Cavuto.” “My job is to cover you, not fawn over you or rip you. Just report on you.”

The host later added: “It is called being fair and balanced, Mr. President, yet it is fair to say you’re not a fan when that balance includes stuff you don’t like to hear or facts you don’t like to have questioned.”

Cavuto’s pointed comments come on the heels of Trump’s latest broadside against Fox News. Despite the network’s reputation for favorable coverage of the president and his administration, with critics going so far as to describe it as “state TV,” Fox News has increasingly become a target of Trump’s rage. The president slammed the network in tweets this week for “heavily promoting the Democrats,” adding, “We have to start looking for a new News Outlet. Fox isn’t working for us anymore!” The tirade appeared to be sparked by Fox News anchor Sandra Smith interviewing Xochitl Hinojosa, the communications director for the Democratic National Committee, and soon prompted criticism from a handful of people associated with the network.

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[‘Fox isn’t working for us anymore,’ tweets Trump in another blast at the network]

On Thursday, Cavuto joined in, addressing Trump directly in a roughly four-minute segment that has since been viewed more than 170,000 times across Twitter and YouTube.


Cavuto, who has slammed Trump on his show before, kicked off his monologue by playing a clip of the president calling into a Fox News Radio program earlier in the day and expressing that he was “not happy” with the network. In recent months, Trump has gone after several Fox News personalities including host Shepard Smith, left-leaning pundit Juan Williams and contributor Donna Brazile, former chair of the Democratic National Committee.

“All right, well, I think the president watches Fox,” Cavuto remarked. “I also think he is getting sick of Fox, which is weird, because I think he gets pretty fair coverage at Fox.”

In 2017, a Harvard report analyzing the president’s first 100 days in office found that the network was “the only news outlet in our study that came close to giving Trump positive coverage overall — the split was 52 percent negative to 48 percent positive.”

[Fox’s Cavuto to Trump: ‘That’s your stink. Mr. President, that’s your swamp.’]

Cavuto noted, however, that the president had made it “clear to fact-check him is to be all but dead to him and his legion of supporters who let me know, in no uncertain terms, I am either with him totally or I am a ‘Never Trumper’ fully.”

Perhaps, the host said, it was this “Loyal on everything or not to be trusted on anything” mentality that prompted the president to once again bash Fox News on Wednesday and urge his supporters to stop watching the channel. Interpreting the president’s criticism as a suggestion that Fox News had been operating as an extension of his administration and reelection campaign, Cavuto, like other network personalities, pushed back against the notion. Trump’s tweet also drew critical responses from Fox News political analyst Brit Hume and on-air personalities Guy Benson and Howard Kurtz.

[Trump had better be careful about hate-tweeting Fox News]

“My job, Mr. President, our job here, is to keep the scores, not settle the scores,” Cavuto said Thursday, before launching into a description of his responsibility to report on the economy and trade talks regardless of whether the news is good or bad.

Then, Cavuto turned his attention to what he believed to be Trump’s biggest gripe with the media: getting fact-checked.

“You’re only human, I get that. Who likes to be corrected?” the host said. “But you are the president. It comes with the job, just like checking what you say and do comes with my job.”

To prove his point, Cavuto began listing instances in which Trump made false or misleading statements (more than 12,000 during his presidency, according to the Fact Checker database), ranging from claims that Russia didn’t interfere in the 2016 election to denying that he paid off adult-film actress Stormy Daniels. While the Fact Checker generally avoids characterizing Trump’s falsehoods as “lies,” Trump’s statements about the hush-money payment made to Daniels earned the rare label.

[President Trump has made 12,019 false or misleading claims over 928 days]

On Thursday, Cavuto also pointed out the president’s habit of contradicting himself. The host cited Trump’s praise of former secretary of state Rex Tillerson, whom he later fired and then called “dumb as a rock,” and his apparent 180 on potential support for gun background check legislation.

These moments that have been reported on aren’t fake, Cavuto said, addressing Trump, “They’re real items, and you really said them.”

“Fake is when it’s wrong, Mr. President, not when it’s unpleasant,” he added.

But, Cavuto conceded that Trump was right to complain that the media, which can be “more inclined to report the bad than anything good,” hasn’t been fair to him.

“It is no surprise you’re frustrated that more aren’t in line with you and that everyone at Fox might not be in lockstep with you,” said Cavuto, before clarifying that even if there are Fox News hosts who defend Trump, it doesn’t mean that they work for him.

“Hard as it is to fathom, Mr. President, just because you’re the leader of the free world doesn’t entitle you to a free pass,” Cavuto concluded. “Unfortunately, just a free press.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/30/neil-cavuto-fox-news-trump-work-you/
 
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A Fox host’s tirade against Trump exposes depths of his corruption


By Greg Sargent
Opinion writer
August 30 at 10:25 AM

The impunity is the point.

For days now, President Trump has been embroiled in a public feud of sorts with Fox News, because he’s angry that the network isn’t functioning dutifully enough as his 24/7 propaganda channel.

This is mostly being discussed as another turn in Trump’s ongoing war on the media, one in which his ire has boomeranged on his media supporters. But the story here is bigger than this: Trump’s battle with Fox illuminates the multi-tentacled manner in which Trump is corrupting our democracy and political system, in a new and interesting way.

On Thursday night, Fox’s Neil Cavuto unleashed a lengthy rebuke to Trump. In it, Cavuto pointedly noted: “Mr. President, we don’t work for you.”

This was a response to Trump’s rage-tweet excoriating the network: “We have to start looking for a new News Outlet. Fox isn’t working for us anymore!”

Trump is angry, Cavuto argued, because on occasion Fox doesn’t sufficiently whitewash his failures and lies. Cavuto noted that Trump chafes because Fox covers bad economic numbers, market drops and Trump’s ongoing trade disasters, and because Fox has pointed out that Trump lied when he claimed Mexico would pay for his wall, that Russia didn’t interfere in 2016, and that he inherited a recession from Barack Obama.

“To fact check him is to be all but dead to him,” Cavuto said, adding that many Trump supporters had contacted him to tell him that “I am either with him totally, or I am a Never Trumper fully.”

My purpose here is not to defend Fox. Yes, its news anchors sometimes do cover the administration aggressively, but the news coverage also has a heavy pro-Trump tilt, and its opinion hosts regularly traffic in outright pro-Trump agitprop and white nationalist conspiracy theories.

As Margaret Sullivan puts it, Fox writ large and Trump are the “conjoined twins of misinformation.” If anything, Trump’s attacks have given the network a way to hype its largely nonexistent independence from him.

Rather, what’s interesting here is Cavuto’s declaration that many Trump supporters have come to expect and demand from Fox absolute fealty to their leader.

Cavuto deserves some credit. In his rebuke, he exposed many of the false storylines that intertwine in Trump’s preferred narrative of the last few years: Russia never tried to sabotage our political system on his behalf. Trump deserves total credit for what has been good about the economy, having inherited nothing but wreckage from the Obama years. All the recent bad economic news is fake news, as are claims that Trump’s unhinged handling of trade is helping cause it. Trump’s buffoonish vow to subjugate Mexico and force it to pay for his wall has proved to be a mirage.

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Trump expects and demands that Fox News hew to this propagandistic narrative entirely. But, even more to the point, he publicly and unabashedly tells his supporters that he expects and demands it.

Corruption of our discourse

The whole point here is the open declaration that something meant to be a news network should function as his personal 24/7 propaganda and disinformation outlet. It’s a double-fisted declaration of impunity: Trump must be immune from journalistic scrutiny and be permitted to operate and lie with absolute impunity, and he will publicly assert that an ostensibly journalistic institution should be entirely subservient to him with absolute, shameless impunity as well.

This is a form of insidious corruption — corruption of our discourse. All politicians shade the truth; politics inescapably involves artifice of one kind or another. But most hew to some kind of underlying belief that gaslighting voters too shamelessly treats them with a form of deep contempt; that factual reality has to matter at some point; that journalism plays a legitimate institutional role in restraining political dishonesty; and that all this is a necessary foundation for deliberative democracy to function.

But Trump has crossed over into a form of autocratic disinformation that is designed to render fact-based deliberation and argument impossible. And Trump is openly declaring not just that his supporters have a stake in this; but also that they are entitled to their very own network devoted to it as well. If it doesn’t play this role, it has somehow betrayed them.

The impunity is the point

All this is also key to Trump’s public flaunting of his other excursions into corruption. When Trump declared his intention to hold the next Group of Seven meeting at his Florida resort; when Trump dangled pardons with what the special counsel determined was improper intent; when Trump calls for investigations of political opponents; when Trump declares his frustration with norms designed to prevent such manipulation of law enforcement — well, all of that is in plain sight.

Vox’s David Roberts and former Obama adviser Dan Pfeiffer got at this in an interesting exchange:


Everything we know about Trump leaves little doubt that this is deliberately the case. Trump is openly asserting the power to do these things with impunity.

As political scientist Jonathan Bernstein observes, the fact that the lawlessness is by design so blatant itself undermines faith in constitutional government and “promotes contempt for the entire concept of the rule of law.”

Trump’s unabashed and open assertion of impunity is a central feature of his corruption. This public flaunting of that corruption — of our governing institutions and discourse alike — compounds it and makes it all the more corrosive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-against-trump-exposes-depths-his-corruption/
 
They report they are the only news outlet that gives trump close to positive coverage at 48/52 percent. How in the hell could anyone give him 48% positive coverage. He should be celebrating if he gets 3% with his lying corrupt administration and background history.
 
I've save the Trumpsters some time... Cavuto is a RINO

Trumper designations

Actual conservative = RINO
Moderate democrat = Liberal
Liberal Democrat = Socialist

Keep moving those, Trumpers!
 
I also heard Shepherd Smith taking trump on about his lies about building progress on the wall, which there is none. Love it.
 
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I'm curious how news coverage gets graded as negative/positive, etc. vs coverage that is critical or factual or anything like that.

I think we sometimes forget to distinguish between news coverage that's negative vs critical sometimes. There is a difference there, subtle though it may be. Obviously not saying there isn't negative/positive coverage that's out there and probably more "negative" than there should be. In an ideal world, news coverage should be focused on being critical. IMO, negative/positive should be a secondary concern on that at best, as to me that's more dependent on the story in question.

For most of the news networks, while I'd like to see them avoid the positive/negative reporting viewpoint, but it's also hard to avoid that mentality when the POTUS regularly refers to you as the enemy. The press should and needs to be better but that's hard when Trump makes everything personal. It's a two-way street.
 
There are a LOT of Republicans on MSNBC. Just no Trump fans.
Trump fans:

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OANN or whatever it is.

I actually think this jab is him setting the stage for a Trump Network, which was likely his plan all along until he accidentally got elected.
My theory as well.

Timing is interesting, too.

I think he is seeing that re-election chances are melting away faster than the glaciers in New Northeast America, err, I mean Greenland.
 
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