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100% On Topic and Civil Thread on AJ Ferrari's Wrestling Future

That's just the tip of the iceberg. If you don't see MAGA as a cult at this point, there's a good chance that's because you're in it.

Cultists don't recognize their cult as a cult.
No dog in this fight, but ironic you saying cultists don't recognize their cult as a cult. Seems to me, you are part of a cult, yet fail to realize it......
 
Exactly. And these people are too dumb to realize they're the rubes and being grifted and manipulated by a narcissist. If they took an elementary psychology class they just might realize what's happening to them.
Vodka boy. I would bet all i have that comparing our side on this board vs your cronies.

Our side would have much higher IQs, much bettet careers, much higher education, much higher personal and professional accomplishments, better shape, happier, better family..etc.

Its so obvious. Your so frustrated, angry and bitter. To bad. Feel sorry for you….kind of. Put the weed down, get a job, start contributing and maybe try your best to get a female partner to calm your delusional anger and ignorance!
 
There was plenty of fraud, I had a friend who worked with Amistad. And I live in Pa., I'm familiar with what happened. It's just a shame they cheated a mentally incompetent on the take politician. One who wasn't smart when he had his marbles.
" i have a friend" best way to push an opinion without having to have facts.
 
Yes - and so would I. I don't want the man (Trump) in because of the chaos around him. But only a fool (or a democrat) would say life is better now than under those polcies. The half truths and edited material that is reported and posted gets people like you all in a funk. It's tiresome. Simply amazing that you prefer politicians who earned generational wealth through the selling of influence (10% to the Big Guy), creation of fraudulent foundations, and insider trading. Guess they just need to be sneaky little bastards, hmmm?
Are you talking about the Trump Foundation and Trump University which both found guilty of fraud? If not what foundations have been convicted of fraud?
" i have a friend" best way to push an opinion without having to have facts.
 
No dog in this fight, but ironic you saying cultists don't recognize their cult as a cult. Seems to me, you are part of a cult, yet fail to realize it......

I'm in the cult of logic, reason, sanity, independent non allegiance to any political party. I know to the rabid cultists that all sounds pretty crazy and radical.
 
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Vodka boy. I would bet all i have that comparing our side on this board vs your cronies.

Our side would have much higher IQs, much bettet careers, much higher education, much higher personal and professional accomplishments, better shape, happier, better family..etc.

Its so obvious. Your so frustrated, angry and bitter. To bad. Feel sorry for you….kind of. Put the weed down, get a job, start contributing and maybe try your best to get a female partner to calm your delusional anger and ignorance!

Yeah, you're a delusional nutjob so of course you'd gamble your net worth away without knowing anything about my personal life.

You think I'm an unemployed green haired pothead. I'll go ahead and assume you live in a trailer in the backwoods with 6 junker cars on your property, are morbidly obese, married to your second cousin, and on a bunch of heart and stroke meds, and collect disability.

See how this works. 🙄
 
Get the popcorn ready. Love to see justice being served.
How does this surprise anyone? Of course many of the smaller fish will take deals, especially the large piece of cake she is getting served for doing so. Its much like the January 6th people all saying Trump convinced them or they wouldn't have done it. They were caught red handed illegally entering. What other fricking argument were they going to use????

I never said a bunch of Trump supporters didn't do very dumb and even illegal things. My contention has been trying to say it all had a direct connection to Trump like Don Corleone ordering all the hits while witnessing a baptism...
 
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Get the popcorn ready. Love to see justice being served.
Not sure you understand the legal system here. She pled to a tiny charge. She may or may not have done it but did to avoid going to trial and maybe getting some long prison time. Prosecutors use this tactic a lot. Getting hit with a RICO case can be scary and includes a lot of prison time. In a RICO case if one co-defendant is found guilty of something, then the odds of you being found guilty are very likely. Whether you had anything thing to do with it or not. She's an attorney and probably knows this as well. Take 6 months' probation, a couple small fines and move on. Fight it and possibly spend the rest of your life in prison because of someone else's faults. White collar crimes are often done this way.
 
Now this, I 100% agree with. I fundamentally believe he is such a narcissist that he cannot believe he would legitimately lose. I think this was bolstered even further with his winning the 2016 election after every news outlet and poll had him getting destroyed all the way up until the votes were counted. This bolstered his belief that everyone out there was lying against him.

Again, I have stated over and over I don't like him and hope and pray he goes away. I just don't want the Republican party left in shambles because of it. The party itself still more closely represents my core beliefs than anything else out there by far...
How do you not realize that the reason the Republican party is in shambles is because of Trump and because of the fact that they won't move on from MAGA?
 
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How does this surprise anyone? Of course many of the smaller fish will take deals, especially the large piece of cake she is getting served for doing so. Its much like the January 6th people all saying Trump convinced them or they wouldn't have done it. They were caught red handed illegally entering. What other fricking argument were they going to use????

I never said a bunch of Trump supporters didn't do very dumb and even illegal things. My contention has been trying to say it all had a direct connection to Trump like Don Corleone ordering all the hits while witnessing a baptism...

You've already said you'll go down with the ship. We know. The level of delusion is astounding.
 
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I'm in the cult of logic, reason, sanity, independent non allegiance to any political party. I know to the rabid cultists that all sounds pretty crazy and radical.
What happened yesterday? What were all the people doing in the halls of congress? Where they there just because or was it because the Squad repeatedly told them that the Hospital was blown up by Israel? Maybe if CNN and MSNBC had got the story right and/or came out and told people sooner that it was Hamas that did it to their own people, then they wouldn't have been there? That my friend is CULT actions.
 
Not sure you understand the legal system here. She pled to a tiny charge. She may or may not have done it but did to avoid going to trial and maybe getting some long prison time. Prosecutors use this tactic a lot. Getting hit with a RICO case can be scary and includes a lot of prison time. In a RICO case if one co-defendant is found guilty of something, then the odds of you being found guilty are very likely. Whether you had anything thing to do with it or not. She's an attorney and probably knows this as well. Take 6 months' probation, a couple small fines and move on. Fight it and possibly spend the rest of your life in prison because of someone else's faults. White collar crimes are often done this way.
No ****ing shit, but what do you think this means for Trump? Pretty clear.
 
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How do you not realize that the reason the Republican party is in shambles is because of Trump and because of the fact that they won't move on from MAGA?
I actually said Trump has created a mess. I clearly stated that. I just don't like your "MAGA" lumping and nearly my entire contention with your arguments is based off that blind hatred to a straight up level of blind, stereotypical bigotry....
 
Go down with the ship? How exactly did I say that?

Delusional over the fact that you'll insist he's innocent regardless of the evidence. You've already alluded that even if he's convicted, if it's not on every charge, you'll somehow think it was a witch hunt and that you were right.
 
I actually said Trump has created a mess. I clearly stated that. I just don't like your "MAGA" lumping and nearly my entire contention with your arguments is based off that blind hatred to a straight up level of blind, stereotypical bigotry....
He does that a lot.
 
I actually said Trump has created a mess. I clearly stated that. I just don't like your "MAGA" lumping and nearly my entire contention with your arguments is based off that blind hatred to a straight up level of blind, stereotypical bigotry....

We've already been over this ad nauseum. 90% of Republican politicians at minimum are currently pro MAGA and would support Trump for president. Like it or not, the GQP is the party of MAGA and Trump. You're delusional to not recognize that.

There is nothing bigoted about condemning Trump and MAGA. The defense of Trump and MAGA is bigoted.
 
I actually said Trump has created a mess. I clearly stated that. I just don't like your "MAGA" lumping and nearly my entire contention with your arguments is based off that blind hatred to a straight up level of blind, stereotypical bigotry....
Actually, MAGA started in 2010 with the Tea Party. It just morphed into MAGA. That was long before Trump.
 
He does that a lot.

You've self identified as a cultist extremely quickly. In a normal, sane society, anyone defending Trump would be ostracized. Instead you feel comfort seeing that there are millions of other radicalized Trump supporters who'd proudly support the overthrowing of American democracy and the constitution as long as it meant their cult leader got to be dictator.

If you don't like being condemned with the cult, get off the ship. It's not hard.
 
We've already been over this ad nauseum. 90% of Republican politicians at minimum are currently pro MAGA and would support Trump for president. Like it or not, the GQP is the party of MAGA and Trump. You're delusional to not recognize that.

There is nothing bigoted about condemning Trump and MAGA. The defense of Trump and MAGA is bigoted.
So, you're saying that if someone believes in something and defends it then they are bigoted?
 
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So, you're saying that if someone believes in something and defends it then they are bigoted?

If what they believe in isn't supported by facts and worse is contradicted by the facts, yet they continue to believe it anyway then they are delusional and/or bigoted.
 
You've self identified as a cultist extremely quickly. In a normal, sane society, anyone defending Trump would be ostracized. Instead you feel comfort seeing that there are millions of other radicalized Trump supporters who'd proudly support the overthrowing of American democracy and the constitution as long as it meant their cult leader got to be dictator.

If you don't like being condemned with the cult, get off the ship. It's not hard.
Lol, I'm not a Trump supporter. Or a MAGA or any other group you put me in. All I'm asking is STOP labelling people and using it as a defense against what is different than your views or beliefs. That's not the way America now or was how it was founded. I believe in the Constitution and oppose anyone who distorts or defiles it, no matter the organization, person, belief or ranking in power.
 
It's their beliefs. right wrong or otherwise. If it doesn't hurt you, then move on.

Who is president of the United States has an impact on all our lives. In particular, when a politician attempts to suspend the constitution and overthrow a democratic election to insert themselves as dictator that has a massive impact on all our lives and hurts all of us.
 
Lol, I'm not a Trump supporter. Or a MAGA or any other group you put me in. All I'm asking is STOP labelling people and using it as a defense against what is different than your views or beliefs. That's not the way America now or was how it was founded. I believe in the Constitution and oppose anyone who distorts or defiles it, no matter the organization, person, belief or ranking in power.

Then you are misguided on my stance. Trump has explicitly called for the termination of the constitution. I also believe in the constitution and have sworn an oath to protect it from all enemies foreign and domestic. I will continue to condemn all who defend and support Trump. If you take issue with that, that's on you.
 
Then you are misguided on my stance. Trump has explicitly called for the termination of the constitution. I also believe in the constitution and have sworn an oath to protect it from all enemies foreign and domestic. I will continue to condemn all who defend and support Trump. If you take issue with that, that's on you.
Why are you such an angry little man? Seriously dude! You can't even post something without it sounding angry, pissed off, demeaning or flat-out name calling? Maybe you should see someone about that? You're going to take years off your life stressing about stuff.
 
Is this what you are hoping? Or what you believe? Or do you have facts? I want to see the facts you speak of, if this is the case.

She pleaded guilty to aiding Trump's efforts to overturn the election. She's cooperating with the prosecution. She's agreed to testify against Trump if called upon in trial.

Objectively, this is bad for Trump and doesn't help him in any way.

If you don't believe those facts, you're delusional.
 
Why are you such an angry little man? Seriously dude! You can't even post something without it sounding angry, pissed off, demeaning or flat-out name calling? Maybe you should see someone about that? You're going to take years off your life stressing about stuff.

Interesting comment. Take a scroll through Trump's truth social feed. Some of the most angry, deranged, demeaning ramblings you'll see anywhere on the internet.

You rant about me "name calling" as you call names in the very same paragraph. 😂
 
How does this surprise anyone? Of course many of the smaller fish will take deals, especially the large piece of cake she is getting served for doing so. Its much like the January 6th people all saying Trump convinced them or they wouldn't have done it. They were caught red handed illegally entering. What other fricking argument were they going to use????

I never said a bunch of Trump supporters didn't do very dumb and even illegal things. My contention has been trying to say it all had a direct connection to Trump like Don Corleone ordering all the hits while witnessing a baptism...
Technically - it was Michael who ordered the hits while at the baptism.
 
What happened yesterday? What were all the people doing in the halls of congress? Where they there just because or was it because the Squad repeatedly told them that the Hospital was blown up by Israel? Maybe if CNN and MSNBC had got the story right and/or came out and told people sooner that it was Hamas that did it to their own people, then they wouldn't have been there? That my friend is CULT actions.
Nothing to see here - move along. Tlaib couldn't more openly call for violence if she actually said - I call for violence! Yet nobody on the left says a word. Maybe that is what influenced the 100 million in aid to a country tied to terrorism?
 
You're going to take years off your life stressing about stuff
@Is_there_vodka_in_heaven - I don't know whether it's passion or frustration (as anger is a secondary emotion), and I don't know your height. These aside, there is some truth in Sharky1203's words.

Yes, the issue at hand is a serious one.
But debating it on a wrestling board, not so much, especially with anonymous strangers.

I have too many friends and family, who back Trump 'for his policies' while either holding their nose to or fully embracing Trump the person, for me to rail at them as cultists. Because in the end, I love them unconditionally.
 
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