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100% On Topic and Civil Thread on AJ Ferrari's Wrestling Future

High EQ rare in Iowa? Now you are taking a shot at the people of Iowa because you and your band of merry followers have your panties in a bunch because of comments on a message board? Just to be clear as well, EQ has very little to do with which side of the aisle you may be on, or what state you are from, so the automatic "likes" received aren't all that well thought out.

Maybe I missed something, but where did someone say women do not, or should not have equal rights? Tell me what laws exist to make life automatically tougher for females. I said laws, not life, because "equal rights" mean laws. And before you try to say equal pay, far more factors than your sex play into what someone makes. Yes, in many cases women in middle to upper managment may make less than their male counterparts. Maybe having to take time off (losing opportunities to receive annual pay increases) to raise a child has something to do with that? The exact same thing would happen to a man if he took time away from a career. That's life and women are the ones who have babies - but I guess in our current world that is going to change too. You know, with that concept that men can now have babies too. Equal pay for professional sports? I hope you are smart enough to stay away from that one. Equal pay for the same skilled or unskilled job - I 100% agree.

I have daughters and have worked in a field dominated by women for many years so please educate me on equal rights and the law. My guess is that other than a few smart ass off the cuff comments with intent to try and show how progressive you think you are, you can't. This isn't 1920 anymore. That date was used for a reason, by the way.
Whats EQ??
 
You say that like it's a bad thing.
No judgment. Just wondering in forum what it would be like if the authors of the Judeo-Christian religion had chosen a materialistic or gender-less precept.

Alas, that might not have best served their own objectives to the maintain an upper hand in the power dynamic.
 
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No judgment. Just wondering in forum what it would be like if the authors of the Judeo-Christian religion had chosen a materialistic or gender-less precept.

Alas, that might not have best served their own objectives to the maintain an upper hand in the power dynamic.

Whats EQ??
EQ is emotional intelligence. The funny thing to me is that the vast majority of people that shout about EQ live on the coasts were people are known to be cold, unwelcoming and generally pissed off. They say that the people in the Midwest lack EQ and IQ and we just don't get it. Then these same people visit the midwest and they just cannot believe how nice and generally happy everyone is!
 
No judgment. Just wondering in forum what it would be like if the authors of the Judeo-Christian religion had chosen a materialistic or gender-less precept.

Alas, that might not have best served their own objectives to the maintain an upper hand in the power dynamic.
You are assuming that man is writing scripture with his own ideas but we find from the apostle Peter that man is not writing of any private interpretation but by the direction of the Holy Spirit. 1 Peter 1: 20-21 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."

The apostle Paul also verifies this 2 Tim 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

I guess what I am saying is that the problem you have is not with the authors of the Bible, but with God himself.

A quote from Mark Twain comes to mind.... "It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."
 
EQ is emotional intelligence. The funny thing to me is that the vast majority of people that shout about EQ live on the coasts were people are known to be cold, unwelcoming and generally pissed off. They say that the people in the Midwest lack EQ and IQ and we just don't get it. Then these same people visit the midwest and they just cannot believe how nice and generally happy everyone is!
I just went to a wedding where the groom was from California and he moved to Iowa, loves it, and married a girl from Iowa. His friends who came to the wedding were blown away that people actually waved to each other. They thought it was all just made up in the movies. They were stunned at how friendly everyone was. Is that low or high EQ from the Iowans? :)
 
Even bringing up "EQ" in an argument is "virtue signaling" at its finest. Most people that bring it up are being 100% hypocritical as they are using it to denigrate others.

To be clear, if your "EQ" was so high, you would be wading above the "muck" on an anonymous message board, wouldn't be so easily triggered and would be much more open to other points of view.
 
Even bringing up "EQ" in an argument is "virtue signaling" at its finest. Most people that bring it up are being 100% hypocritical as they are using it to denigrate others.

To be clear, if your "EQ" was so high, you would be wading above the "muck" on an anonymous message board, wouldn't be so easily triggered and would be much more open to other points of view.
I normally find you a little long winded-but i have to give credit where due, you hit the nail on the head in 3 sentences!
 
I normally find you a little long winded-but i have to give credit where due, you hit the nail on the head in 3 sentences!
Thanks and sorry. Admitedly, my "long windedness" is an intentional triggering tactic. But, it was how I was taught. Inundate them with facts, figures and logic. If you have to, repeat it over and over again. You most likely won't budge the main people you are arguing against, but some of the people following it may absorb part or all of what you are saying...
 
I was there, you can even go back and watch it on YouTube, you're full of shit. No one booed during his interview. keep making shit up to feel important my man.

Yep, here it is on Youtube. The booing is happening throughout the 2nd half of the 3rd period and gets louder at the end of the match. Then, during the Dake interview, before he even says anything, as he is answering with "I didn't get to my offense like I wanted to" the loud booing begins. Then, after he answers the question you hear the loud cheers. That was when the rest of the arena stood up to cheer to drown out the boos from the Iowa section. It's right here. Who's full of shit?

 
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Yep, here it is on Youtube. The booing is happening throughout the 2nd half of the 3rd period and gets louder at the end of the match. Then, during the Dake interview, before he even says anything, as he is answering with "I didn't get to my offense like I wanted to" the loud booing begins. Then, after he answers the question you hear the loud cheers. That was when the rest of the arena stood up to cheer to drown out the boos from the Iowa section. It's right here. Who's full of shit?

Couldn't remember this but the bolded description above is absolutely what happens. The only caveat is that, without a full shot of the arena, it is impossible to say for sure that the boos are from the Iowa section, although since DSJ is from Iowa and just lost to Cornell's Dake it is easy to imagine the booing is predominantly coming from the Iowa representatives in the crowd.
 
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Couldn't remember this but the bolded description above is absolutely what happens. The only caveat is that, without a full shot of the arena, it is impossible to say for sure that the boos are from the Iowa section, although since DSJ is from Iowa and just lost to Cornell's Dake it is easy to imagine the booing is predominantly coming from the Iowa representatives in the crowd.

It was from the Iowa section, though I'm sure it wasn't all of them booing. I've been to several years of nationals and met many incredible Iowa fans. I've been to many Rec Hall matches before and after Cael. I can tell you this, I've been embarrassed by PSU fans MANY times both at Rec Hall and at Nationals. This got much worse after Cael started succeeding and the old time football fans who knew nothing about wrestling started filling some of the arena. Some of those guys who know nothing for some reason want to be the loudest. Anyway, what I posted did happen, but, by no means am I saying all Iowa fans are bad.

As an example of how some PSU fans act. My friend and I were yelled at and told we weren't true PSU fans by a group of old-time PSU fans for giving Kyle Dake a standing ovation when he beat Taylor. I tried to explain that, though I was obviously rooting for DT to win, Dake had just accomplished and amazing feat. They responded "He didn't deserve it" At that point, I just rolled my eyes and gave up.
 
I was at Nationals the year that Dake beat St. John. Iowa fans were not happy with the officiating (shocker) and the heaviest Iowa section was booing loudly as Kyle Dake was being interviewed by ESPN. The rest of the arena suddenly stood up and started to cheer to drown out the Iowa boos. That was the rest of the country telling Iowa to sit down and shut up.

As for this issue, none of us know what happened. However, there are a lot of other reasons to dislike A.J. I'm glad he's not on my favorite team and I'm also really glad he's going to be on your team.

I did hear AJ was going to write a book called "If I Did It"
How much did psu fans boo Dake when he Humbled your boy taylor more then a few times. What about when he beat frank the tank, I believe I remember some booing after that one also.
 
How much did psu fans boo Dake when he Humbled your boy taylor more then a few times. What about when he beat frank the tank, I believe I remember some booing after that one also.
Dake's style of wrestling definitely drew serious ire from all of his opposing fanbases. The funny thing is Iowa and PSU were the only teams to have to deal with it in the Finals(2 each).

However, of the 4, he REALLY did do a LOT of backpedaling against St. John and Iowa fans have ALWAYS been known for going after stalling regardless of how transgressive it was.

Needless to say, Dake won that match and controlled every aspect. Even though he could have been hit for stalling another time or 2, the outcome was never in doubt..
 
I guess what I am saying is that the problem you have is not with the authors of the Bible, but with God himself.

You realize there are people who believe the Bible is a historical book written by man without any real divine direction or guidance right?

You can't tell him he has a problem with God as if that's an indisputable fact.
 
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It was from the Iowa section, though I'm sure it wasn't all of them booing. I've been to several years of nationals and met many incredible Iowa fans. I've been to many Rec Hall matches before and after Cael. I can tell you this, I've been embarrassed by PSU fans MANY times both at Rec Hall and at Nationals. This got much worse after Cael started succeeding and the old time football fans who knew nothing about wrestling started filling some of the arena. Some of those guys who know nothing for some reason want to be the loudest. Anyway, what I posted did happen, but, by no means am I saying all Iowa fans are bad.

As an example of how some PSU fans act. My friend and I were yelled at and told we weren't true PSU fans by a group of old-time PSU fans for giving Kyle Dake a standing ovation when he beat Taylor. I tried to explain that, though I was obviously rooting for DT to win, Dake had just accomplished and amazing feat. They responded "He didn't deserve it" At that point, I just rolled my eyes and gave up.
Dake and Taylor had a great rivalry and of course are pretty good friends now. winning 4x is a huge thing and any wrestler who does that should get congratulations.
 
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You realize there are people who believe the Bible is a historical book written by man without any real divine direction or guidance right?

You can't tell him he has a problem with God as if that's an indisputable fact.
Sure they can, if their definition is clearly derived solely from the bible. Now, that doesn't mean they are right. It just means they absolutely 100% believe that they are...
 
You realize there are people who believe the Bible is a historical book written by man without any real divine direction or guidance right?

You can't tell him he has a problem with God as if that's an indisputable fact.
Yes, I realize that there are people that believe that. If a person does not believe that the Bible is the written and inspired Word of God then they are in unbelief. How else do we get our instructions from the Lord but by reading his inspired Word and having the Holy Spirit work in us to discern the information. I personally desire that everyone comes to a knowledge of the redeeming work of the Lord Jesus Christ and put their faith in His death, burial and resurrection.
 
Yes, I realize that there are people that believe that. If a person does not believe that the Bible is the written and inspired Word of God then they are in unbelief. How else do we get our instructions from the Lord but by reading his inspired Word and having the Holy Spirit work in us to discern the information. I personally desire that everyone comes to a knowledge of the redeeming work of the Lord Jesus Christ and put their faith in His death, burial and resurrection.

If I preached agnosticism to you and others here would you find that offensive and intolerant?
 
While you may consider yourself a moral police officer, most here on a wrestling forum prefer that you patrol elsewhere.

Can't have it both ways. Can't tolerate one person preaching moral principles, to then not tolerate another person pointing out the hypocritical irony and inconsistency in said principles.
 
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If I preached agnosticism to you and others here would you find that offensive and intolerant?
I would just simple disagree and scroll on like I do with all the political information that I choose not to engage in. I am a Bible student and it is something very interesting to me so I like to share prospective from the believers side of things. I am not easily offended brother.
 
Can't have it both ways. Can't tolerate one person preaching moral principles, to then not tolerate another person pointing out the hypocritical irony and inconsistency in said principles.
How about you call it what it is. Your boy was the one "preaching" and when called out you come to his aid as the moral gestapo. How's that for irony? GTFOH
 
It was from the Iowa section, though I'm sure it wasn't all of them booing. I've been to several years of nationals and met many incredible Iowa fans. I've been to many Rec Hall matches before and after Cael. I can tell you this, I've been embarrassed by PSU fans MANY times both at Rec Hall and at Nationals. This got much worse after Cael started succeeding and the old time football fans who knew nothing about wrestling started filling some of the arena. Some of those guys who know nothing for some reason want to be the loudest. Anyway, what I posted did happen, but, by no means am I saying all Iowa fans are bad.

As an example of how some PSU fans act. My friend and I were yelled at and told we weren't true PSU fans by a group of old-time PSU fans for giving Kyle Dake a standing ovation when he beat Taylor. I tried to explain that, though I was obviously rooting for DT to win, Dake had just accomplished and amazing feat. They responded "He didn't deserve it" At that point, I just rolled my eyes and gave up.
you guys might be right. I remember The booing at Dake taking a shot at St. John and then Booing. I know the people sitting around me all felt Dake won and was better. Not one person blamed the ref... Around me anyway.

I also went back and watched and forgot about hwo hard they were hand fighting... great face shots
 
Yes, I realize that there are people that believe that. If a person does not believe that the Bible is the written and inspired Word of God then they are in unbelief. How else do we get our instructions from the Lord but by reading his inspired Word and having the Holy Spirit work in us to discern the information. I personally desire that everyone comes to a knowledge of the redeeming work of the Lord Jesus Christ and put their faith in His death, burial and resurre
What kind of horseshit is on this site now?? this is about wrestling, and sometimes recipes. Take your politics and imaginary friends to the off topic page.
 
man is writing scripture with his own ideas
Yes, just as I equally and without prejudice believe neither Joseph Smith translated golden plates with seer stones nor L.Ron Hubbard's Scientology is anything more than his work of fiction.

But we have freedom of personal and from state-sponsored religion, so that is my constitutional right.

To post a man's writing that asserts his writing only comes from divine inspirational is a tautology of sorts that requires a leap of faith. I have little interest in it. Much prefer Nietzsche.
 
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How about you call it what it is. Your boy was the one "preaching" and when called out you come to his aid as the moral gestapo. How's that for irony? GTFOH

You've caught me. I'm the moral gestapo for pointing out the absurd hypocritical irony of someone supporting an individual who's been ruled liable for sexual assault/rape, but won't support someone who's charges of sexual assault have been dropped.

Great logic. 🙄
 
You've caught me. I'm the moral gestapo for pointing out the absurd hypocritical irony of someone supporting an individual who's been ruled liable for sexual assault/rape, but won't support someone who's charges of sexual assault have been dropped.

Great logic. 🙄
We all get it, MAGAman's screen name triggers you. Move on, find a safe space.
 
Dake's style of wrestling definitely drew serious ire from all of his opposing fanbases. The funny thing is Iowa and PSU were the only teams to have to deal with it in the Finals(2 each).

However, of the 4, he REALLY did do a LOT of backpedaling against St. John and Iowa fans have ALWAYS been known for going after stalling regardless of how transgressive it was.

Needless to say, Dake won that match and controlled every aspect. Even though he could have been hit for stalling another time or 2, the outcome was never in doubt..
Montell wrestled so well and had that match won with 10 more seconds. I also do not think Dake had the two backs in the second either. I had to give it to Dake he did not back up much at least in his first finals.
 
Montell wrestled so well and had that match won with 10 more seconds. I also do not think Dake had the two backs in the second either. I had to give it to Dake he did not back up much at least in his first finals.

Dake always felt beatable, he just wasn't. That is why PSU fans got picked on so bad for still saying DT was better when he kept losing to him. If you compared their matches against other kids, you'd think DT would destroy him, but, that isn't how it works.

I have so much respect for Dake. I got to talk to him at the NWCA all-star match the year it was at George Mason (the year after he beat DT). I asked him if he would have went up if David wasn't up there, and he said he probably wouldn't have. He said he called DT on the phone and told him he was coming up, to which Taylor replied "Let's do it"

Just to have the guts to take on the challenge and give the fans something to remember is so admirable. I'm sure accomplishing something that no one else has was a factor too. I also remember the electricity in that building before that match. Then Dake's music was "All I Do Is Win" and that blew my mind! Great memories!

One thing that some people forget is that if Quentin Wright doesn't pull what some saw as an upset over Kilgore, the team championship would have come down to DT having to beat Dake for PSU to win.
 
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