I THINK we know who our 184 lb is. Damn
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Outstanding defense and he scored on great angles and reshots. Scored at Will from his feet. He really seems to have figured some things out and the motor obviously has always been there. Very excited to watch this kid develop. I don’t think the things that Abe does well will be able to hold up to what Nelson can do.
Nelson looks scary freaking good. Blew my mind , he broke Venz.
In classic Brands style. Didn’t even look tired afterwards which also reminds me of his family members.
That was the best match of the night. Loved seeing Terry and Spencer telling Nelson to let him go at the end.
Beyond impressive. I don’t think it’s homerish to say that if he continues to wrestle like that he can be this years NCAA champ. Gonna take a helluva man to beat him and you’re going to have to go to very dark places to do it. Nelson’s development is absolutely unreal.
Since they used Nelson in the varsity dual I’m told that means he’s the backup.
Not going there. Nelson looked great tonight, in 1 match, against a good opponent. Great start, and that's good enough for now. Rinse and repeat multiple times against different guys and styles and you might be onto something.
I just kept thinking he looked like a big Terry out there..... he’s big enough and he’s quick as hell
Not full sized at all he looked small to me compared to ventz but he outworked him !!!
That reversal was big. He was quick twitch in every situation, mind and body, and was tough in spots where he needed to be. Never really let Venz get his hands on him in and put him in a bad spot. First Big Ten dual win was a dandy.
Can’t help but think about how fun a packed Carver would’ve been for that match... : (
An impressive match, he looks better for the weight than last year. Nice quickness and explosion. I'm not gonna get the cart ahead of the horse in regard to his season potential but he looked very good. Venz is known to be a slow starter in seasons shape wise and has never been great from neutral. Nelson handled him in neutral, top and bottom though. Was more impressive than Abe's or before him Cash's win over Venz. Nelson has clearly put the work in.
FYI....Venz has been bonused three times in his career before tonight
Myles Martin by TF his first year
Lujan by maj last year
Brooks by fall at B1G
I am not ready to label NB as the next champ but if he keeps it up, he’ll be in the mix.
Myles Martin by TF his first year
Lujan by maj last year
Brooks by fall at B1G
I am not ready to label NB as the next champ but if he keeps it up, he’ll be in the mix.
Is now the time to go back and pull the threads saying NB was a poor recruit? He’ll never develop and always be a room guy?
This didn’t just happen, he worked his ass off. You have to attribute some of this to the strong team mentality we have.
This didn’t just happen, he worked his ass off. You have to attribute some of this to the strong team mentality we have.
I watched him and thought he look great. Just wondering tho, last year, didn't he start with a huge win and upset and they still ended up going with Abe? Or am I all wet on this?
Either way he dominated last night. He's an 184lber. Def not a huge one but as much work as he's done in the weightroom he'll be fine. He'll out quick most 184s and will be strong enough to horse the few that he can't. Now the very few that have both will be tough but he looked ready to me.
Either way he dominated last night. He's an 184lber. Def not a huge one but as much work as he's done in the weightroom he'll be fine. He'll out quick most 184s and will be strong enough to horse the few that he can't. Now the very few that have both will be tough but he looked ready to me.
Sorry 23 so far; but I can't help myself. BTW, I do like your input all the time.
BTW, I do like your input all the time.Good morning, Crazy.
Hmmmmm...I don’t remember this as a thing. He was a 3 time state champ at the 3A level and had some success nationally. With that, his bloodlines and potential high ceiling, when he was recruited I really only recall optimism.
he definitely was wanted bad by the board.. I may be wrong but he was a top 100 recruit with incredible upside
I said an Alex Meyer type career if that’s what you are referring to. As two being behind someone for a few years then being the starter for two years with AA potential. I’ll be very happy if I am wrong and he has a better career.
There is no such thing as a poor recruit that gets little to nothing in the way of scholarship money, which I have always Assumed with Nelson Brands (and still do).
That's a great recruit whether he ever saw the lineup or not, because even though he wasn't highly ranked initially (#70 ???), he gots skills (from his feet primarily) to press Starters and make them better in the process and a matter of time to tell how much better he gets because of that interaction.
He was good enough to get a DI scholarship elsewhere, but clearly that was never going to happen. The poor kid has been stuck in "no man's land" weight wise since he arrived, with top flight "ready to go from Day One" recruits in The Bull and Kemdawg. I'm sure he and Pop's both understood that when he signed up.
Anyway, I had always hoped from a sentiment/legacy standpoint he would get an opportunity to start for at least one year and hold his own, and maybe that time has arrived. Clearly he has put in the work.
May not be a full sized 184, but he looked strong enough to be one. Venz looked like he was shooting into a brick wall a couple times.
My opinion on that hasn't changed however, and never will, and it certainly has nothing to do with Nelson Brands. I don't know where he sits size-wise, I would guess he's still leaning towards the bottom side of the weight (?). Assuming that is true, last night his other attributes carried the day, which of course is great.Sorry 23 so far; but I can't help myself.
Good morning, Crazy.
Great wrestlers can overcome some of that size (if we had two Spencer Lee's, one would be forced to go up, and I'd like the chances of both to win most of the time, but only one will likely win ALL of the time, the one that fits the weight class - that's the difference, and the bonus points will be different too, you can take that to the bank). Of course there are not two Spencer Lee's, so our lineup consists of other mortals throughout it in a typical year. And when you're trying to maximize your Team points at NCAA's year in and year out (we haven't won a Team Title in a decade), you are by far better served by guys who fit the weight class, given the talent is fairly equal. The historical proof is irrefutable, and I didn't manufacture that proof, all I did was witness it.
I was never completely on board for Nelson at 184, just didn't think he had the size to compete at that level. But damn, he looked like he's been hitting the weight room hard throughout the COVID break and looks much more appropriate at the weight. Great match for Nelson. Looking forward to seeing what he can do this year.
Last year he got to his opponents legs fairly easily, but couldn't finish. And, his scrambling and quickness came into play mostly warding off disaster. From what I saw last night, he's bigger and stronger. He can finish. And, he's using his quickness to counter, not to escape. Big strides.
Oh man!!! Was so pumped up I forgot all about the fact that there was no crowd. Now I can't stop think about how awesome/wild/loud Carve would have been!!!
Reminds me of the time sitting in a sauna trying to drop last few ounces at regionals. Bunch of us in there when some kid from another team says. " All I can think about is floating down a river of Hawaiian Punch with my mouth open."
Well everyone is looking at him with death in their eyes. He is like what? I say, Thanks you SOB, now we all got it in our heads and every time I will ever enter a sauna again it will pop up in my head.
Never told this before because of that reason, but I believe saunas are outlawed now.
Except for JWar, he was thinking whew good thing there weren’t any fans. Speaking of 197, does Abe start hitting the gym? Nelson majored an AA, can’t see the spot not being his going forward.
