what's kinda scary is what would Josh Dix, Payton Sandfort and Owen Freeman get on the open market?
and as we all know, this isn't NIL; this is pay to play
$200,000 is the starting point for an Elite Point Guard. Player not yet in Portal asking for $1,500,000
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what's kinda scary is what would Josh Dix, Payton Sandfort and Owen Freeman get on the open market?
and as we all know, this isn't NIL; this is pay to play
I think we get off lucky this year in only losing Perkins. If Fran and Goetz don't figure this out by next year our program is going to be in a world of hurt.
I don't hate the players for trying to get what they can, but sure hate what it's doing to the game. (Ya, ya, I know I just said don't hate the playa, hate the game)
You don’t see it, because it would be against NCAA regulations to do it. You don’t think a lot of coaches would pay their own money to bring in top talent? You don’t think schools would increase a coach’s salary for this very purpose?
I’m sure some coaches have done under the table deals with collectives/players, but they’re certainly not going to make something that illegal a public event.
Our fan base is clueless, especially when it comes NIL and other things they can’t help but speak about.
I doubt the following isn't anything that hasn't already been suggested...
It should be the University (and only the University) to pay for NIL or whatever incentives that bring in/keep star athletes. It shouldn't fall on the fans/alumni/corporations. Those people/entities should not directly be interacting with athletes (or their agents, god that sounds stupid to have to say)...but can give to the University if they choose and let the University decide how to spend it.
With that said, there should be zero restrictions on the University in dealing with the athletes, and the athletes should protect themselves thru a labor union. Since it's the Universities that are the ones getting filthy rich (sure, a lot of FB/MBB coaches are too), it should be the Universities that directly give $$ to the players. They are the ones collecting obscene amounts of $$ from media deals and other sources straight off the backs of the athletes....not the fans/alumni/corporations. In this way it could also help to ensure that at least some of the $$ gets into the hands of the non-FB/MBB athletes.
It is fair to say that the NCAA has screwed this up from before day one. It also seems that the only thing that the NCAA still has any sort of control over still would be the universities. That’s only because they (the schools) haven’t challenged the NCAA themselves because they’re also making a ton of money too.
Revenue sharing through media rights, memorabilia, and licensing seems like the most effective way to solve this. Although not a perfect solution, one that would be a lot better than expecting fans to directly support players that the NCAA and universities are making millions off of year after year.
Each member of the B1G made around $50 million last year from media rights and NCAA distributions back to the schools. About $650,000,000 combined for just the B1G alone. Media rights for all conferences, in all sports, was just short of $2 billion in 2022-23 alone. Over 95% of that coming from the P5 conferences.
Relating this to the original topic, Tony Perkins seeking/getting $200K-$500K is probably extremely low in comparison.
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I think an idea would be to go to a European club type system. No direct or maybe indirect connection with schools. A club could lease facilities from schools or build their own. No NCAA or grade hassles. I still blame the NCAA for much of this mess. Making millions or more dollars while being afraid an athlete might get a hamburger or sell an autographed T-shirt.
In July 2022 Kevin Warren (the B1G Commissioner at the time) met with football players regarding revenue sharing and improved medical care.
The players were looking for:
* A to-be-determined percentage of media rights revenue.
* Medical care for players after their college careers have come to an end. Funds from the B1G would purchase medical insurance policies for former players that would cover the treatment of injuries from their college football careers.
Again, this is from 2 years ago, but if the B1G did not make significant progress on doing more for players, the players' next step could be to register as a 501(c)(5) labor organization and potentially begin the process of becoming a union.
Link to the Story:
Players talking more benefits with Big Ten leaders
Big Ten players and an independent players' association are talking to conference officials about improved benefits and a bigger voice in college football's future.
Link to the related thread:
Revenue Sharing (up to $22M/School/Year) & improved Medical Care: Kevin Warren met w/ Football Players in July 2022 to discuss these Issues
The players will be looking for: * A to-be-determined percentage of media rights revenue. * Medical care for players after their college careers have come to an end. Funds from the B1G would purchase medical insurance policies for former players that would cover the treatment of injuries...
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