2022 Recruiting (1 Scholarship Left): Jaxon Kohler & Josh Dix VISITED Sep3, Tyler Nickel Sep17. Aidan Shaw VISITED Jun23. Kyle Filipowski to Duke
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Right. And I was not saying losing to Duke, Kansas, etc. is WHY we are not relevant. I should have separated those thoughts a bit more. Losing to them is a function of us being less relevant. Did we break through a bit last year? Sure, but our early exit from the tourney certainly did not help either. Relevancy is on a spectrum and all I know is when I was a freshman at Iowa, we were ranked #1 in the country for the first half of the season, were loaded with elite athletes from around the country and were a whisker from the Final 4. Our style of play was EXCITING!. We have been very much in the middle of said spectrum for while, though Fran has gotten us moving in the right direction. But...I worry that we have a high floor and a somewhat low ceiling. This year will be interesting, but given our strong year, you would think we would be able to land some top top recruits. Still can......???
I find this very interesting….we were in on this guy and in what appeared to be a pretty good position to get a visit and now not mentioned in the top group…my wild ass speculation makes me wonder if:
1) Is the staff really happy with the progress of Josh O and Riley M?
2) Is there a commitment of a frontline player that they feel very confident about?
3) Both of the above?
Reading into what P. Wessler was saying. It seems he is looking for a place that has an opening spot for a center where he could step in and start immediately. Seeing as we have 2-3 players at the 5 for at least 2 years ( Rebraca, Mulvey and Josh O), I can see why he may not be thinking Iowa is the place for him. It’s too bad as I think he would help and possibly jump the guys we have. Hard to see that yet though as I’m not sure what we have at the 5 yet.
Again, Uno's post was full of blatantly false statements.
He said Tarris Reed wasn’t a realistic commit.
Wrong.
He said the only extent of Tarris Reed's interest in Iowa was his relationship with Tyler Cook.
Wrong.
He said he thought we have a shot with all of Shaw, Nickel, and Dix.
Bold statement!
He said If we can get two of the three (Dix, Shaw, Nickel) it’ll be a successful class.
Wrong.
Uno is buddies on here with Legend. Legend, of course, encourages people on here to commit suicide. Talk about sick & disgusting. I would imagine many posters on here have lost friends or loved ones to suicide.
So, that, as well as his horrible takes, is all you need to know about Uno.
That would seem like a pretty good class to me, but there are others I like too, jaden schutt being one of them but losing Filipowski was a bummer
I did not "get after you."
Normally I ignore your posts. But in this case you posted a bunch of nonsense in one post and I pointed out why every statement you made in that one post was wrong or laughable.
Dude most of my post was opinion. Reed wasn’t a realistic commitment IN MY OPINION. If we can get two of three of Dix, Shaw, and Nickel, it will be a successful class IN MY OPINION. The only portion of my post that was potentially factually incorrect was that TC is the only reason that there was a relationship between Iowa and Reed.
Regardless of all of this, I am sick and tired of you attempting to suppress my opinions on this website. You may not agree with me, you may not like me. I don’t care. But if you are going to disagree, disagree respectfully or ask me to expound on something you disagree with. This “wrong.” “Wrong.” “Wrong.” “You are an idiot” approach is annoying and fosters no productive conversation here. I state an opinion, get a book telling me why I’m wrong, trying to shut me up, then I respond with a snarky comment and all of a sudden it’s “UNO’s a bad guy! What a douche he is!”
And if I’m so stupid then it should be evident to everybody already and you don’t need to waste time responding to my posts. Again I ask, as I have multiple times before, please stop responding to my posts if you can’t do so in a conversational and/or friendly manner
He was being sarcastic and saying that it was a captain obvious comment
I am not buddies with Legend. I am not buddies with anybody on here as I don’t know anybody here. I like and respect a lot of people’s posts here. There are many posts of Legends that I agree with, and many that I disagree with just like anybody else. I am my own person and don’t need to be associated with comments that somebody else made.
Furthermore, I know people who have committed suicide. I have been affected by people who have committed suicide. For you to think I endorse suicide or making light of it (especially when I have never done either) is completely misguided as well as sickening. Piss. Off.
he said If we can get two of the three it’ll be a successful class
what if we only got Dix and another big other than Nickel or Shaw (there are other options who Fran has offered)? Suddenly it's an "unsuccessful" class? Of course not.
Many would argue it already is a successful class. In the 2022 cycle, we got our 4 star PG. We got our 3 star Center (who later decided to reclassify to 2021).
And don't forget about SG Jaden Schutt. Landing Dix is more likely, however. Landing Dix and another big will only be icing on the cake of this successful class.
I never said that there weren’t other routes to having a successful class. Ronman was down in the dumps about missing out on Reed and my response was supposed to be optimistic. Shame on me
You have sided with and engaged with Legend on many occasions. You have never called him out when he has told people to kill themselves. I am sure I am not the only one who has noticed.
So, yes, you have made light of suicide. And if you are actually being truthful & have actually been affected by people committing suicide, the fact that you have made light of Legend telling others to commit suicide is what is sickening.
Perry and @Hawkstrat ,
I don't have a subscription so I can't read that article.
So, Patrick is now not planning a fall visit to Iowa City?
Also, keep in mind that Fran has offered these 2 bigs recently.
We have one scholarship left for one big. Who wants it?
(1) Braden Huff , who Iowa offered July 25, 2021.
Braden is UNRATED (c'mon, Rivals!), a PF, 6'9", 200, from Glen Ellyn, IL
(2) Jaxon Kohler, who Iowa offered July 19, 2021.
He is a 4 Star Center, 6'8", 210, from American Fork, UT.
Can’t remember where I read it but PW listed favorites and visits and zero mention of Iowa.Perry and @Hawkstrat ,
I don't have a subscription so I can't read that article.
So, Patrick is now not planning a fall visit to Iowa City?
Also, keep in mind that Fran has offered these 2 bigs recently.
We have one scholarship left for one big. Who wants it?
(1) Braden Huff , who Iowa offered July 25, 2021.
Braden is UNRATED (c'mon, Rivals!), a PF, 6'9", 200, from Glen Ellyn, IL
(2) Jaxon Kohler, who Iowa offered July 19, 2021.
He is a 4 Star Center, 6'8", 210, from American Fork, UT.
Interesting. Thanks. Last I heard, he was excited to come to Iowa City this fall for a football game.
I guess that explains the latest 2 offers to bigs.
Click on the name below to see their offer list and more.
Braden Huff , who Iowa offered July 25, 2021.
Jaxon Kohler, who Iowa offered July 19, 2021.
You allowed your emotions to interfere with your logic on this one. A myriad of ways to get to a successful class. Would you agree that getting 2 of those would be a successful class?
You are wrong. It is you who needs to go back to my post and use some logic on this one.
People love to criticize Fran as a recruiter and that post was full of nonsense. What I did is punch holes, sentence by sentence, in his entire post. I provided dates, timelines and quotes. There was no emotion involved. Just facts and logic.
Fran has already been very successful in the 2022 cycle. He landed his 4 star PG and his 3 star Center. Therefore, we do not have to NOW land 2 of these 3 (Dix, Nickel, Shaw) to make it a successful class.
Landing Dix (or Schutt) at SG will make this successful class even better.
Adding a big with the final scholarship will simply be icing on the cake.
What’s funny is that I was doing the exact opposite of criticizing Fran’s recruiting in that response to Ronman, but you were too hellbent on “gotcha”-ing me to notice
i knew you would get defensive and all bent out of shape when i pointed out how each sentence of your post was either wrong or far from earth shattering.
Recruiting classes, from a fan perspective, are often based a lot on perception and emotion. In general, we don't know how successful they are until after the players are on campus a few years, but as fans we need something to do so we hash these topics over on forums. A few of my thoughts on how I see Fran being perceived as a recruiter:
- The real monkey on the back of the staff, from a fan perspective, in this class was getting a quality PG. As some early PG targets/offers chose other schools, people got nervous early in the process. Landing Bowen seems to have satiated that hunger.
- Mulvey looks like a quality recruit, but didn't carry the ego buzz, and then the class switch which looks positive for the team, makes the impact seemingly less so for the 2022 class.
- With the attention the team received being ranked, and with Garza's personal accolades, many hoped that would lead to getting at least another high level nationally regarded recruit. Call it and ego need or not, with Garza and J W gone the NBA route, that want felt like a need. As Franistheman has updated, I believe at last count 16 of the staffs offers have committed elsewhere. If one of a few of those (ex. Filipowski) had committed, I think this board would have been head over heals excited about the class. That might still happen if Nickel or Shaw commit...but who has patience to wait and see?
- Fran has had a perception of ignoring, or at least not being very successful on a regular basis, of leveraging the transfer portal. Rebraca certainly seems to go against that perception, but while on surface a solid pick-up, didn't generate the high level buzz of some of the "whales" on the market.
- Using a scholarship for a walk on that was not consider major contributor (by fans) left an impression (by many fans here) of "lazy recruiting".
- Thus, so far, the two recruits so far seem solid and "successful" talent adds, I think many fans wouldn't consider that an excellent recruiting class when their appetites (realistic or not) were set higher. So far they feel like a "meets expectations" than an exceeds expectations--depends on your scale.
Can you clarify for me. If Iowa were to have a class of only those 2 out of 3 would you consider that class successful? Ignore the other items, players, etc. Just 2 out of those 3. Success or no?
If they only got two of Dix/Nickel/Shaw it would be a very successful class.
Okay, fair enough. I'm just getting fed up with the constant whining and complaining about what fran posts in these recruiting threads. If it was unrelated, I sincerely apologize.
Which I have been guilty of participating in in the past, but have actively tried to avoid doing for a while now, as nothing productive comes from it
And as fed up as you and everybody else likely are, I am just as fed up with being involved in these stupid ass spats for no reason other than having an opinion and sharing it respectfully. And one poster (who wasn’t even involved) taking it upon themselves to suppress my opinions and let the entire board know in condescending fashion every time they believe I’m wrong or disagree with my thoughts, as if the person I’m discussing with is incapable of responding themselves
@BlackNGoldBleeder , as I stated previously, I knew when I replied to Uno's post about Tarris Reed he would get all bent out of shape. I pointed out why each sentence he typed, each opinion he had, was wrong and why. I provided dates, timelines, quotes and more.
Of course he had an initial smart ass response. His initial response was "Could not care less. Too Long, Didn't Read," which of course was:
* Condescending. See what I quoted above in this post; this is what he wrongly accused me of being. What a hypocrite.
* The cause of this stupid ass spat. See what I quoted above in this post; he is tired of the spats, yet he was the cause of this one. What a hypocrite.
* Not respectful. See what I quoted above in this post; he says he posts respectfully. This, of course, was not true.
And no one is trying to suppress his opinions. But when Uno's opinions are way off, we should point it out.
Again, this was Uno's post/his "opinions" and my responses to each point he made.
Your statements I put in bold are based on hindsight and no evidence.
Tarris was a "realistic commit" less than 10 months ago, on Oct 14, 2020, when Iowa offered. Tarris had not blown up yet, so Iowa was very much a realistic option for Tarris.
You also wrote that the ONLY extent of his interest in Iowa was because of his connection to Tyler Cook (both went to the same high school). Frankly, you don't know that. I would think that Fran's style of play, among many other things, also interested him.
The extent of his interest in Iowa beyond Tyler Cook was such that he scheduled a virtual meeting with Fran on Nov 9, 2020.
More evidence from March 8 (just 5 months ago) that Tarris was still a "realistic commit" and that the extent of his interest in Iowa went beyond Tyler Cook: “I speak with Coach Dillard and Coach McCaffery a lot. They’ve been playing well these past couple of games. I’m building a solid relationship with them."
It was not until March 2, 2021 (5 months after Iowa offered) that Michigan was reportedly interested. Michigan finally offered Tarris on April 29. Tarris committed to Michigan just over 3 months after that, on Aug 5.
And contrary to your opinion, I think the 2 players we have added in the 2022 cycle (Riley and Dasonte) already make it a successful class. And now, we have just 2 scholarships to hand out. And moving forward? Josh Dix is likely an Iowa commit (I have been saying that since early June). And the last of the 2 remaining scholarships doesn't necessarily have to go to Shaw or Nickel to make this class even more successful.
The last scholarship, if not Shaw or Nickel, could go to:
(1) Patrick Wessler , who Iowa offered May 11, 2021.
He is the Center, 7'0", 250, from Matthews, NC.
@Hawksfinal4 , Patrick plans to visit this fall for a football game.
(2) Braden Huff , who Iowa offered July 25, 2021.
Braden is UNRATED (c'mon, Rivals!), a PF, 6'9", 200, from Glen Ellyn, IL
(3) Jaxon Kohler, who Iowa offered July 19, 2021.
He is a 4 Star Center, 6'8", 210, from American Fork, UT.
@SSG T ,
The thread title and orig post will always be current.
I see that you asked with Mulvey coming in this year, how many scholarships remained for 2022. As you can see, the answer is 2.
Rebraca said on a June 9, 2021 zoom conference that his plan is to play for two seasons (including 2022-2023), at Iowa.
From the original post:
2022-2023 Roster (11 on Scholarship; 2 scholarships available):
FRESHMEN: 1 player
6'3" PG Dasonte Bowen
SOPHOMORES: 2 players
6'7" F Payton Sandfort
6'11" C Riley Mulvey
JUNIORS: 6 players
6'11" C Josh Ogundele
6'4" G Tony Perkins
6'2" G Ahron Ulis
6'8" F Keegan Murray
6'8" F Kris Murray
6'9" SF Patrick McCaffery
SENIORS: 2 players
5'10" PG Joe Toussaint
6'9" SF Filip Rebraca (this includes the the covid-19 free year that all 2020-2021 athletes were given)
Notable Walk on players:
SOPHOMORE: 2 players
Luc Laketa
Carter Kingsbury
The thread title and orig post will always be current.
I see that you asked with Mulvey coming in this year, how many scholarships remained for 2022. As you can see, the answer is 2.
Rebraca said on a June 9, 2021 zoom conference that his plan is to play for two seasons (including 2022-2023), at Iowa.
From the original post:
2022-2023 Roster (11 on Scholarship; 2 scholarships available):
FRESHMEN: 1 player
6'3" PG Dasonte Bowen
SOPHOMORES: 2 players
6'7" F Payton Sandfort
6'11" C Riley Mulvey
JUNIORS: 6 players
6'11" C Josh Ogundele
6'4" G Tony Perkins
6'2" G Ahron Ulis
6'8" F Keegan Murray
6'8" F Kris Murray
6'9" SF Patrick McCaffery
SENIORS: 2 players
5'10" PG Joe Toussaint
6'9" SF Filip Rebraca (this includes the the covid-19 free year that all 2020-2021 athletes were given)
Notable Walk on players:
SOPHOMORE: 2 players
Luc Laketa
Carter Kingsbury
Iowa offered Jaden Schutt on June 17, 2020.
Jaden took an Unofficial Visit to Iowa City on June 21, 2021.
Iowa, of course, is competing with Duke, Illinois, Michigan State, Florida, Louisville, Marquette, Wisconsin and others.
Can Illinois keep this kid in state?
The joys of recruiting.
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Jaden took an Unofficial Visit to Iowa City on June 21, 2021.
Iowa, of course, is competing with Duke, Illinois, Michigan State, Florida, Louisville, Marquette, Wisconsin and others.
Can Illinois keep this kid in state?
The joys of recruiting.
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This is a free story.
As you will read, and I quote, “Iowa, Duke, Michigan State, Florida, and Illinois” are recruiting him the hardest.
As you will read, and I quote, “Iowa, Duke, Michigan State, Florida, and Illinois” are recruiting him the hardest.
Another free story.
As you will read, when it comes to SG Jaden Schutt, Iowa is very much in the picture. Along with Duke, Michigan State, Illinois....
As you will read, when it comes to SG Jaden Schutt, Iowa is very much in the picture. Along with Duke, Michigan State, Illinois....
You literally admitted to instigating and then said I caused it. Please, for the love of God, go bother somebody else
Incorrect. I simply responded to your post with facts, dates, and quotes.
I did not instigate anything. I just refuted basically everything in your post.
It was you who then responded like a hypocritical, condescending child, instigating everything that followed.
And you continue to respond like a child.
You should do us all a favor and quit cluttering the board with your nonsense.
Might be something to watch regarding Shaw. MJ Rice, 5 star SF announces tomorrow. I don't exactly know Kansas' needs, but with what they already have committed, one would imagine adding Rice would make Shaw a very low priority for them.
m.kusports.com
KU Sports
Marquise “M.J.” Rice, a 6-foot-5, 225-pound small forward from Prolific Prep in Napa, Calif., has pegged Tuesday as the day he will announce his college decision. Rice is expected to first share the news with Jason Jordan of SI Now on social media around 11 a.m. Although he has not put out a...
Might be something to watch regarding Shaw. MJ Rice, 5 star SF announces tomorrow. I don't exactly know Kansas' needs, but with what they already have committed, one would imagine adding Rice would make Shaw a very low priority for them.
KU Sports
Marquise “M.J.” Rice, a 6-foot-5, 225-pound small forward from Prolific Prep in Napa, Calif., has pegged Tuesday as the day he will announce his college decision. Rice is expected to first share the news with Jason Jordan of SI Now on social media around 11 a.m. Although he has not put out a...
From what I've heard Arkansas is likely Iowa's biggest competition for Shaw.
Might be something to watch regarding Shaw. MJ Rice, 5 star SF announces tomorrow. I don't exactly know Kansas' needs, but with what they already have committed, one would imagine adding Rice would make Shaw a very low priority for them.
KU Sports
Marquise “M.J.” Rice, a 6-foot-5, 225-pound small forward from Prolific Prep in Napa, Calif., has pegged Tuesday as the day he will announce his college decision. Rice is expected to first share the news with Jason Jordan of SI Now on social media around 11 a.m. Although he has not put out a...
Nice post and I agree. Kansas already has one SF who has committed and MJ Rice would be a second SF in their class. Do they really need a THIRD SF?
Here are Kansas' current 2022 commits:
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