This is my understanding as well, although I don't pretend to know any of this stuff for sure. One thing is clear, the NCAA absolutely sucks at making clear, logical rules and decisions. It shouldn't be this confusing to understand. The Covid free year was nonsense while the 2020 seniors got totally screwed, and the gambling crap being drawn out for six full months is totally unacceptable imo. They just suck at the one job they have.
jfc, this doesn’t help. The freakin’ Department of Justice? Are you kiddin me? Do TnT really think their gonna have any influence with this stuff?
This is the crux of the weakness of the argument. We haven’t denied breaking the rules, but somehow we think we are not subject to punishment because we don’t agree with the way we were caught and believe it is unfair other states didn’t catch/report their athletes. Talk about avoiding responsibility. That’s like 8-year-old logic.
Not sure where you showed up from but you going away would certainly improve this place.
I know what happened. Cassiopi/Brands/whoever talked about gambling to other wrestlers, it went through the wrestling pipeline, eventually made it to Cael, and Cael made some calls. Amirite?
To be admissible evidence needs to be legally obtained. There are good reasons for this.
You’re right but more like a crappy opinion. Perhaps you need to listen to his response again. He said they control what they can control and go forward but the question needs to be asked. He’s responding to a freaking question about the final ruling. You expect him to say it’s unfortunate, they got what they deserved and we’ve moved on? Weak. Like KF, the coach said his peace and deservedly so. Much respect for both coaches who always have their athletes backs.
Yeah. Don’t get hung up on the words he used in the interview. Everyone knows it’s the feelings that count.
Come on, bud. Don't do that shit.
Because that’s kinda how criminal investigations work. You stop a guy for speeding, you find the drugs, you leverage the guy to flip somebody upstream.
If evidence was illegally obtained, the defendants should absolutely contest the charges against them in the criminal process. But the ncaa is not the forum for that defense. It’s the courts. Indeed, even if they won in court the ncaa could make its own findings, relying on illegally seized evidence, if it really wanted to.
Hypothetical. The justice system was investigating potential crimes committed at your workplace - which do not involve you. In the process they found that liked to dink around and watch 30 minutes of YouTube videos in your office twice a day while your boss is not around, your coworker takes an 1 1/2 lunch when he is only supposed to get an hour, the front desk secretary is on her cell phone for 3 hours out of the day, etc. Along with their criminal report that they turn over to be prosecuted by state government, they send a report of all the legal activities that are described above to your office management. You all get fired for the above described activities. Is it okay for the justice system to meddle in these affairs? I personally think they should stay out of it. Does that make it okay for the people described above to take advantage of their employers while they are in the clock? No.
someone in the wrestling program must of hurt your feelings.
oh please.... do tell and which other sports teams and which other Iowa Colleges were involved. That would be a Hell of a selling point if these Crystal clean universities could brag about being INCIDENT FREE when it comes to the NCAA.
Words count spoonman. Get them wrong, people scratch their heads. Get them wrong while presenting a thesis, people have a hard time taking the thesis seriously. Get them wrong while presenting a thesis angrily, people roll their eyes and laugh at you.
Makes you wonder who's the AD on the committee that Tom was referencing.Tom Brands Believes Right Questions Aren't Being Asked Surrounding Sports Gambling Investigation
Iowa wrestling coach Tom Brands responds to the NCAA's latest set of guidelines on sports wagering.www.flowrestling.org
Except it wasn't anyone filtering evidence to the NCAA, it was Iowa and isu self reporting the violations to the NCAA.
Meaning is primary. Angry coach getting details wrong on presser like this doesn’t help the cause and actually hurts recruiting, imo. Apparently a LOT of top pfp kids have passed on the opportunity to be coached by our staff. I wonder why?
I would be more on board of you shutting the eff up on this rather than Tom.
