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5th year senior

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As I understand it, a 5th year senior who has graduated may continue his studies on scholarship. If they choose to pursue a Masters degree does the scholarship cover the entire cost or only the fall semester of their 5th year? Thanks.
 
I believe scholarships are for the entire academic year, not a semester or a degree
 
It's for the whole year. Originally, the athlete had to be pursuing a degree that was not offered by his original school, but I don't think that's being enforced.
 
It's for the whole year. Originally, the athlete had to be pursuing a degree that was not offered by his original school, but I don't think that's being enforced.

You are. Referring to transfers. I think OP referring to current player entering grad school my guess. Is it is good for full year as new players won't start until summer school or later
 
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You are. Referring to transfers. I think OP referring to current player entering grad school my guess. Is it is good for full year as new players won't start until summer school or later

So if I choose to pursue a masters degree the scholarship will only cover 2 semesters of my studies? Meaning I have to pay out of pocket to complete the degree. I know one of our returning 5th year seniors is pursuing a double major and will achieve that in 1 semester. Curious as to why a double major and not a masters degree. Thinking finances would be a big reason.

Follow on question. Do scholarships cover summer school?
 
So if I choose to pursue a masters degree the scholarship will only cover 2 semesters of my studies? Meaning I have to pay out of pocket to complete the degree. I know one of our returning 5th year seniors is pursuing a double major and will achieve that in 1 semester. Curious as to why a double major and not a masters degree. Thinking finances would be a big reason.

Follow on question. Do scholarships cover summer school?

Just my interpretation but the scholarship is good while participating in the sport. Don't think it carries over to following years but could be wrong

I think scholarships now cover summer school but not an expert so could be wrong
 
Just my interpretation but the scholarship is good while participating in the sport. Don't think it carries over to following years but could be wrong

I think scholarships now cover summer school but not an expert so could be wrong
I knew he was talking about transfers who still have eligibility remaining after receiving their undergrad degree .... at least, I thought that's what he was talking about.
The original idea was to not penalize a kid athletically because of his desire to advance academically. So, let's say a Cyclone football player with a year of eligibility remaining gets his BA and wants to go to law school; without the transfer exemption, he either has to forgo his final year of competition or his pursuit of a career as a lawyer. The rule lets him go to Iowa use his remaining eligibility there.

The reason I said I didn't think it's being enforced very stringently is that it's my understanding Jake Rudock went to med school at Michigan, and the last time I was in Iowa City, there was still a med school there.

Not suggesting anything shady by anybody, by the way.
 
I knew he was talking about transfers who still have eligibility remaining after receiving their undergrad degree .... at least, I thought that's what he was talking about.
The original idea was to not penalize a kid athletically because of his desire to advance academically. So, let's say a Cyclone football player with a year of eligibility remaining gets his BA and wants to go to law school; without the transfer exemption, he either has to forgo his final year of competition or his pursuit of a career as a lawyer. The rule lets him go to Iowa use his remaining eligibility there.

The reason I said I didn't think it's being enforced very stringently is that it's my understanding Jake Rudock went to med school at Michigan, and the last time I was in Iowa City, there was still a med school there.

Not suggesting anything shady by anybody, by the way.
I don't know this one way or the other. But I always assumed he found a specific program at UM's med school that Iowa didn't offer. With a lot of these transfers I think they go looking for something just a little different from what their previous school offered. Almost like finding a loop hole in the rule.
 
To clarify, are you guys talking only about grad transfers or players who are 5th year seniors? Different situations.
 
I'm in no way a doctor, but I thought there were tons of specialties. Would each specialty be considered a different program?
 
The rule is for a player getting his bachelor degree, nothing in it about having to be a fifth year senior, which of course most are. There are a few getting bachelor degrees in three years, or three years plus summer school sessions. Then they could transfer for their 4th year and not have to sit out.
 
I think it has little or nothing to do with the number of years; it's strictly a matter of whether the kid gets his undergrad degree. Saw this story today:

Former Illinois wide receiver Marchie Murdock said Sunday via twitter that he intends to enroll at Iowa State and join the Cyclone football program.

The Arlington (Tex.) native spent three years with the Illini, playing two, meaning he will have two years to play two seasons at his next school. He will graduate from Illinois this summer, making him eligible to play right away as he pursues a master's degree.

The 6-foot-1, 190-pound Murdock caught 20 passes for 194 yards last season for Illinois, playing in ten games. As a redshirt freshman in 2014, he appeared in four games and had one reception for 17 yards. Murdock sat out the 2013 college football season as a redshirt.

He signed with Illinois in February 2013, a Rivals.com 2-star prospect out of Mansfield (Tex.) Legacy High School. In addition to the Illini, Murdock was offered by Colorado State, San Diego State and Navy out of high school.

The addition of Murdock, who is not bound to attend Iowa State at this time, would help the Cyclones offset the loss of veteran receive Jauan Wesley, who announced last week that he is transferring from ISU to Northern Illinois. Wesley caught 30 passes last season for I-State.

Murdock had previously announced an intention to transfer to Texas State after deciding to leave Illinois for grad school.
 
The OP originally was asking about 5th year seniors who are staying at their original school. Is there a reason that graduate transfers keep getting introduced into this conversation? Start another thread if you want to discuss that.
 
The OP originally was asking about 5th year seniors who are staying at their original school. Is there a reason that graduate transfers keep getting introduced into this conversation? Start another thread if you want to discuss that.
Excellent point. I was replying to a reply, not addressing the OP.
 
I don't know this one way or the other. But I always assumed he found a specific program at UM's med school that Iowa didn't offer. With a lot of these transfers I think they go looking for something just a little different from what their previous school offered. Almost like finding a loop hole in the rule.
Med school is med school the first 4 years.
 
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