80% support voter ID
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Seems decent. Joe machin is the most reasonable D there is. If we had 100 senators and 435 reps like him we'd be ok.
I'd like the proposal to mandate cleaning of voter rolls to account for dead people and those registered in multiple states.
Also, I didn't see this but it should outlaw federally paid political operatives from taking ballots around and 'helping' people fill them out.
In any case though, this is probably better than the current system.
I'd like the proposal to mandate cleaning of voter rolls to account for dead people and those registered in multiple states.
Also, I didn't see this but it should outlaw federally paid political operatives from taking ballots around and 'helping' people fill them out.
In any case though, this is probably better than the current system.
Well, as long as you have a cell phone…
Im okay with waiting until the day of to start counting. You just know that if they counted ballots as they came in, that would get out somewhere and potentially reduce turnout. The problem in PA and elsewhere was they had to wait until aft the polls closed, or until other ballots from Election Day were counted first before counting the absentee ballots.
And you dont keep a lot of people entertained and watching TV networks by having it wrapped up by 10pm.
There has to be a way of entering the votes but not compiling totals until Election Day. Input as you go and on ED hit a button. Clickety click.
Not sure why there isn't a database in each state that people are listed into for reasons such as drivers license, taxes, hunting license, etc. Then, when a death cert is issued they drop out of system. Something like that.
I am also good with voter ID paired with the commission like Iowa has for all states for redistricting to eliminate gerrymandering.
There is no such thing as an "independent council". When humans are involved its an impossibility.
Because the current system in many states is left up to the party in control. Do you see how "trying" to taking politics out of it might be beneficial?
Your solution to this is an "independent council" which you concede is an impossibility. Do you not find that odd?
Northern, I am not going to go through this with you.
They counted them as they came here in Florida and we basically had a result a couple hours after the polls closed.
I get your point though.....wouldn't want results to get out.
I was laughing about this earlier. I've never seen so many 'Merica First folks use European countries as their example for democracy, but not a lot surprises me about this party anymore. Sadly.
Honestly, I've never even heard of the, "European Model," as it relates to elections, and have no idea what it means. My comment, which apparently you agree with, is a remark about the irony of merica firsters citing European countries as a beacon of democracy. Lol.
Well, there are several states which use a bipartisan committee of some form to draw districts. Would you agree that the way its done in most states now isn’t good?
If voter ID put to rest concerns of election fraud then why are they "auditing" Arizona. They have voter ID.
Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada and Georgia were the states Trump sued to contest. Four of those six currently have voter ID requirements.
That doesn't happen! It is just a left wing Democrat wives-tale! Prove it!! (he says.....tongue-in-cheek!) I imagine a voter ID would take care of that problem, too.......
As I posted earlier, I am ok with voter ID laws, just not the lack of free and fair access to such ID's.
BTW - There are no concerns of election fraud; that's a right wing fairy tale, proven over and over again.
Where does this occur? That is the whole reason for the absentee ballot.......You request a ballot by filling out a form....a ballot is sent to you, you fill it out and mail it back in.....But you are saying that folks are delivering ballots and filling them out for folks? I have never heard of this before.....I am sure it might happen.....but you think it is a problem? And are you alleging that this is an organized project of Democrats and that Repubbers don't engage in it, too?
The "Pennsylvania shit show" was the result of rules made by a Republican Pennsylvania legislature.....What difference does it make when absentee and early ballots are counted? What id important is they are counted accurately. This is all a Trump paranoia thing about counting the votes late...,.Maybe Iowa ought to require that all votes from its Congressional District 4 be counted before any other votes are counted in Iowa so Dems don't lose statewide elections late????
I don't think it benefits anyone to wait a couple days for results....the sooner the better IMO. Of course accuracy is the ultimate objective but they're ways to get there faster.
Anytime I walked into a polling place to vote in Iowa, I was asked for my name and address. Never and ID.
You always wait several days to get final vote counts......accuracy not expediancy is the priority...wtf is a couple of days?
This is, again, because you aren't capable of seeing how it will be used to repress voters. Particularly minority and poorer voters.
I had to show my drivers license to get my covid vaccine. Where's the rage for that?
I don't agree with you Joe....it o.k to have different opinions on the subject.
Easily attainable being the key here.
Lots of minorities and poor don't have the time to go to some single location in a major city and wait in line for a photo ID. And if they change address and their new address doesn't match what's on the ID you can bet that will be used to invalidate their vote. Meanwhile, today, they can simply mail in an updated registration form, and do not need any "new ID".
This is simply another tool in the toolbox to deny voting rights to minorities and poor; there have been practically zero instances of in-person voter fraud, which means IDs are a complete waste of money, and the motivations for pushing them are not what you think they are.
Pretty sure you didn't need it. They'd have given you the vaccine anyway.
That was so they made sure they had the right name matched up to the micro-chip they injected you with....strictly for clerical use.....
So you've refused to learn about why voter ID is suppressive to people of color and their right to vote. Even though it's been explained and you can find all kinds of information about why it's a form of suppression online. Disappointing.Dems have to drop the “voter ID is voter suppression” BS.
Concentrate on getting rid of gerrymandering, increase early voting and ensuring enough polling places. Those are the main issues IMO.
Manchins plan is the way to go
Joe Manchin’s sweeping new voting rights proposal, explained
The pivotal senator has released a potentially transformative plan to promote fair elections.www.google.com
