A bunch of Iowa football facts, numbers, and other junk

[FlickShagwell]

Posted this in the lounge earlier this week. Kinda interesting. Or not.

Kirk's record against:
Miami Ohio 4-0 1.000
Iowa State 11-9 .550
Illinois 10-3 .769
Indiana 10-5 .666
Maryland 2-1 .666
Michigan 7-5 .583
MSU 7-8 .466
Minnesota 14-6 .700
Nebraska 5-5 .500
Northwestern 8-10 .444
Ohio State 2-8 .200
Penn State 8-7 .533
Purdue 10-6 .625
Rutgers 1-0 1.000
Wisconsin 7-11 .389

Kirk's record against:
Matt Campbell 3-0
Lovie Smith 3-0
Tom Allen 1-0
Mike Locksley 1-0
Jim Harbaugh 1-0
Mark Dantonio 4-5
PJ Fleck 3-0 (1-0 as HC of WMU)
Scott Frost 1-0
Pat Fitzgerald 5-8
Ryan Day 0-0
James Franklin 0-3
Jeff Brohm 0-2
Chris Ash 1-0
Paul Chryst 2-3 (one win against Chryst's 2014 Pitt team)

Kirk's Overall Record: 152-101
Overall Winning Percentage .601
Big Ten Record: 91-73
Conference Winning Percentage .554
Yearly Average: 7.6 - 5.1
Average Big Ten Record: 4.6 - 3.7
Bowl Record: 8-8
Vs. Big Ten East 37-34 all time, 8-6 since 2014
Vs. Big Ten West 54-41 all time, 19-11 since 2014
Vs. ACC 4-0*
Vs. Big East 3-1*
Vs. Big XII 13-14 **
Vs. Mac 17-4
Vs. Pac-12 2-4
Vs. SEC 4-4
* 3-1 All time vs. Pitt, who changed from Big East to ACC
** 0-2 against Nebraska while they were in the Big XII

Iowa program all time winning percentage: .537

Hayden Fry record winning percentage as Iowa’s head coach: 143-89-6, .613


Kirk in Overtime 7-5
2000 W @ Penn State
2002 W @ Penn State
2005 L Michigan
2006 W @ Syracuse
2007 W Michigan State
2009 L @ Ohio State
2011 L @ Iowa State
2012 W @ Michigan State
2013 W Northwestern
2014 L Nebraska
2017 W @ Iowa State
2017 L @ Northwestern


Kirk in October 45-30, .600
Kirk in November 39-33, .542

Teams that have won 8 games or more each season since 2015:
Alabama
Appalachian State
Boise State
Clemson
Georgia
Iowa
LSU
Memphis
Michigan
Ohio
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Stanford
Washington State
Wisconsin


CFB's longest winning streaks
Clemson 15
Army 9
Appalachian State 6
Ohio State 6
Florida 4
Fresno State 4
Stanford 4
Texas A&M 4
Wyoming 4
Georgia Southern 3
Iowa 3
Kentucky 3
Miami Oh 3
Ohio 3
Oregon 3
TCU 3

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

But the best, most irrefutable fact of them all?.....

Spoiler

Iowa > everyone else

 

[NevadaHawk]

Need to improve the record against NW and Wiscy. KF has winning record against Michigan but a losing one against the other two. Needs to change if we are going to win the west. The overall winning percentage between KF and HF is identical.

 

[Hawkeyeinsoutherncalifornia]

Posted this in the lounge earlier this week. Kinda interesting. Or not.

Kirk's record against:
Miami Ohio 4-0 1.000
Iowa State 11-9 .550
Illinois 10-3 .769
Indiana 10-5 .666
Maryland 2-1 .666
Michigan 7-5 .583
MSU 7-8 .466
Minnesota 14-6 .700
Nebraska 5-5 .500
Northwestern 8-10 .444
Ohio State 2-8 .200
Penn State 8-7 .533
Purdue 10-6 .625
Rutgers 1-0 1.000
Wisconsin 7-11 .389

Kirk's record against:
Matt Campbell 3-0
Lovie Smith 3-0
Tom Allen 1-0
Mike Locksley 1-0
Jim Harbaugh 1-0
Mark Dantonio 4-5
PJ Fleck 3-0 (1-0 as HC of WMU)
Scott Frost 1-0
Pat Fitzgerald 5-8
Ryan Day 0-0
James Franklin 0-3
Jeff Brohm 0-2
Chris Ash 1-0
Paul Chryst 2-3 (one win against Chryst's 2014 Pitt team)

Kirk's Overall Record: 152-101
Overall Winning Percentage .601
Big Ten Record: 91-73
Conference Winning Percentage .554
Yearly Average: 7.6 - 5.1
Average Big Ten Record: 4.6 - 3.7
Bowl Record: 8-8
Vs. Big Ten East 37-34 all time, 8-6 since 2014
Vs. Big Ten West 54-41 all time, 19-11 since 2014
Vs. ACC 4-0*
Vs. Big East 3-1*
Vs. Big XII 13-14 **
Vs. Mac 17-4
Vs. Pac-12 2-4
Vs. SEC 4-4
* 3-1 All time vs. Pitt, who changed from Big East to ACC
** 0-2 against Nebraska while they were in the Big XII

Iowa program all time winning percentage: .537

Hayden Fry record winning percentage as Iowa’s head coach: 143-89-6, .601


Kirk in Overtime 7-5
2000 W @ Penn State
2002 W @ Penn State
2005 L Michigan
2006 W @ Syracuse
2007 W Michigan State
2009 L @ Ohio State
2011 L @ Iowa State
2012 W @ Michigan State
2013 W Northwestern
2014 L Nebraska
2017 W @ Iowa State
2017 L @ Northwestern


Kirk in October 45-30, .600
Kirk in November 39-33, .542

Teams that have won 8 games or more each season since 2015:
Alabama
Appalachian State
Boise State
Clemson
Georgia
Iowa
LSU
Memphis
Michigan
Ohio
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Stanford
Washington State
Wisconsin


CFB's longest winning streaks
Clemson 15
Army 9
Appalachian State 6
Ohio State 6
Florida 4
Fresno State 4
Stanford 4
Texas A&M 4
Wyoming 4
Georgia Southern 3
Iowa 3
Kentucky 3
Miami Oh 3
Ohio 3
Oregon 3
TCU 3

Now I may be wrong On this one “Paul Chryst 2-3 (one win against Chryst's 2014 Pitt team)didn’t Chryst start coaching at Wisconsin back in 2015 when Iowa beat them 10-6?

 

[HumbleP1e]

In KFs early years, announcers consistently remarked how his team's played their best football at the end of the season. I think it is interesting to see a better October record than November now. I think at that time, KF received heat for early season struggle, and that has largely changed, too.

Stunning to think only 15 teams have won 8+ since just 2015. I would have guessed 30-40, including (but, apparently not):
Florida
Florida State
Notre Dame
Virginia Tech
Auburn
Texas
Texas A&M
TCU
Tennessee
Louisville
USC
UCLA
Nebraska
Michigan State
Penn State
West Virginia
Mountain Momma
Washington
Colorado
Utah
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
Oregon
Cal
Northwestern
Oklahoma State
Missouri
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Miami (Fla)

Most of these are either bluebloods or teams who've challenged for conference titles during this time frame. I am not unaware of many on this list having had a tough season not, like Baylor, tough years for obvious reasons. It's just that we tend to think of 8 wins as both okay and not much of an accomplishment.

One thought new to me anyway is that Fry's .601 came probably with a tougher non-conference schedule (though ISU has been far tougher during KF's years) and the Big Ten has been tougher during KF's years. Really interesting they are at the exact same winning percentage, regardless of factors.

 

[ICWestfan]

College Football winning streaks? Is that Seasons where a team won more than they lost?

 

[FlickShagwell]

Now I may be wrong On this one “Paul Chryst 2-3 (one win against Chryst's 2014 Pitt team)didn’t Chryst start coaching at Wisconsin back in 2015 when Iowa beat them 10-6?

Nope, that's right. Kirk beat him while he was the HC at Pitt in 2014. Then beat him while he was the HC at Wisky in 2015. Then Kirk lost 3 straight to him in 2016, 2017, and 2018. Hence, a 2-3 record.

 

[FlickShagwell]

College Football winning streaks? Is that Seasons where a team won more than they lost?

No, it's games won in a row. Clemson has won 15 in a row. OSU has won 6. Iowa has won 3.

Like a winning streak.

 

[FlickShagwell]

Stunning to think only 15 teams have won 8+ since just 2015. I would have guessed 30-40...

It's just that we tend to think of 8 wins as both okay and not much of an accomplishment.

Yep. I doubt any of this board's "winning is easy" crowd know that only 11 P5 teams have won 8 or more games the last 4 seasons. If winning 8 games was so easy, you'd think everyone would be doing it.

 

[ICWestfan]

No, it's game won in a row. Clemson has won 15 in a row. OSU has won 6. Iowa has won 3.

Like a winning streak.

Yeah, I just thought it was odd that those are the longest winning streaks. Didn't really think that through

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Yep. I doubt any of this board's "winning is easy" crowd know that only 11 P5 teams have won 8 or more games the last 4 seasons. If winning 8 games was so easy, you'd think everyone would be doing it.

Yeah but what about 9 games?..................

 

[Harbinger273]

Need to reverse the trends with NW, Wisco and get back on the winning track vs. psu.

 

[FlickShagwell]

Just curious what Iowa Football looked like at the end of the 1998 season before Kirk took the job. It looked like this:

All time record from 1889 through 1998 498-456-39
Program winning % through 1998 .521
Conference Championships 11
Bowl record 8-7-1

Since 1999, Kirk is 152-101
His winning percentage is .601
Conference Championships 2
Bowl Record 8-8

He's definitely won more than Iowa has, historically. In 110 seasons, Iowa averaged one conference championship per decade, which Kirk has done in his two decades. His Bowl record is pretty much in line with what the program's has been, historically. Not sure what we can glean from this, but there you go.

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

The good Captain.

 

[HawkIDrummer]

Posted this in the lounge earlier this week. Kinda interesting. Or not.

Kirk's record against:
Miami Ohio 4-0 1.000
Iowa State 11-9 .550
Illinois 10-3 .769
Indiana 10-5 .666
Maryland 2-1 .666
Michigan 7-5 .583
MSU 7-8 .466
Minnesota 14-6 .700
Nebraska 5-5 .500
Northwestern 8-10 .444
Ohio State 2-8 .200
Penn State 8-7 .533
Purdue 10-6 .625
Rutgers 1-0 1.000
Wisconsin 7-11 .389

Kirk's record against:
Matt Campbell 3-0
Lovie Smith 3-0
Tom Allen 1-0
Mike Locksley 1-0
Jim Harbaugh 1-0
Mark Dantonio 4-5
PJ Fleck 3-0 (1-0 as HC of WMU)
Scott Frost 1-0
Pat Fitzgerald 5-8
Ryan Day 0-0
James Franklin 0-3
Jeff Brohm 0-2
Chris Ash 1-0
Paul Chryst 2-3 (one win against Chryst's 2014 Pitt team)

Kirk's Overall Record: 152-101
Overall Winning Percentage .601
Big Ten Record: 91-73
Conference Winning Percentage .554
Yearly Average: 7.6 - 5.1
Average Big Ten Record: 4.6 - 3.7
Bowl Record: 8-8
Vs. Big Ten East 37-34 all time, 8-6 since 2014
Vs. Big Ten West 54-41 all time, 19-11 since 2014
Vs. ACC 4-0*
Vs. Big East 3-1*
Vs. Big XII 13-14 **
Vs. Mac 17-4
Vs. Pac-12 2-4
Vs. SEC 4-4
* 3-1 All time vs. Pitt, who changed from Big East to ACC
** 0-2 against Nebraska while they were in the Big XII

Iowa program all time winning percentage: .537

Hayden Fry record winning percentage as Iowa’s head coach: 143-89-6, .601

Correction: Hayden Fry's winning percentage at IOWA is .613

 

[HawkIDrummer]

How is that calculated? Do ties not count at all? When I don’t count the ties and divide 143 wins by 232 (total subtracting the 6 ties during his time at Iowa) I get .616. When I count the ties in the total games coached (238), I get .601.

Ties count as 1/2 win 1/2 loss. Hayden's numbers of 143-89-6 equate to 146-92 which is .613. You can't calculate against the total of 232 total games unless you account for all those games in W-L columns.

 

[ChuckThomas12]

Yep. I doubt any of this board's "winning is easy" crowd know that only 11 P5 teams have won 8 or more games the last 4 seasons. If winning 8 games was so easy, you'd think everyone would be doing it.

Too bad with the way we recruit, 7 or 8 regular season wins is our ceiling except for once a decade. Can’t recruit outside the top 40 consistently and win more than that. It’s been proven time and time again. Kirk, who is drool all over, will get his 7 or 8 regular season wins but that won’t be enough to win the division. Same story different year. We just don’t recruit well enough. Once every 10 years he’ll go above that ceiling. Same reason we’ve finished ranked just twice in the last decade.

 

[FlickShagwell]

Too bad with the way we recruit, 7 or 8 regular season wins is our ceiling except for once a decade. Can’t recruit outside the top 40 consistently and win more than that. It’s been proven time and time again. Kirk, who is drool all over, will get his 7 or 8 regular season wins but that won’t be enough to win the division. Same story different year. We just don’t recruit well enough. Once every 10 years he’ll go above that ceiling. Same reason we’ve finished ranked just twice in the last decade.

Remember when I said every one of your posts was a massive pile of shit?

 

[HawkNole09]

CT. You really need to find a different team.

Nebraska recruits well. They made a BTCH appearance. On the way up.

If you don’t see the changes at Iowa, then you’re not looking deeply enough at the stats that are stating you in the face.

Go back and read some of my posts from this week. It’s all good stuff (except the running gane) but then even mighty Wisconsin struggled there this past year.

Too bad with the way we recruit, 7 or 8 regular season wins is our ceiling except for once a decade. Can’t recruit outside the top 40 consistently and win more than that. It’s been proven time and time again. Kirk, who is drool all over, will get his 7 or 8 regular season wins but that won’t be enough to win the division. Same story different year. We just don’t recruit well enough. Once every 10 years he’ll go above that ceiling. Same reason we’ve finished ranked just twice in the last decade.

 

[ChuckThomas12]

Remember when I said every one of your posts was a massive pile of shit?

Ha I wondered how long it would take you to respond. You LITERALLY live on these message boards, huh?

Hard to argue with facts though, isn’t it? Kirk is good for 7 or 8 regular season wins. History is history. Let me guess, this next year will be the big one, right?

 

[FranklinHawk]

Too bad with the way we recruit, 7 or 8 regular season wins is our ceiling except for once a decade. Can’t recruit outside the top 40 consistently and win more than that. It’s been proven time and time again. Kirk, who is drool all over, will get his 7 or 8 regular season wins but that won’t be enough to win the division. Same story different year. We just don’t recruit well enough. Once every 10 years he’ll go above that ceiling. Same reason we’ve finished ranked just twice in the last decade.

So 5 seasons since 2000 with more than 8 regular season wins is once per decade? You math good.....

 

[ChuckThomas12]

CT. You really need to find a different team.

Nebraska recruits well. They made a BTCH appearance. On the way up.

If you don’t see the changes at Iowa, then you’re not looking deeply enough at the stats that are stating you in the face.

Go back and read some of my posts from this week. It’s all good stuff (except the running gane) but then even mighty Wisconsin struggled there this past year.

You’re obv much more bullish than me on the future. Tell me how you think the next 3 years go.

 

[FlickShagwell]

You LITERALLY live on these message boards, huh?

Don’t use the word “literally.” You’re no good at it.

 

[ChuckThomas12]

So 5 seasons since 2000 with more than 8 regular season wins is once per decade? You math good.....

Cmon man, why make excuses for the staff?

I can cherry pick numbers all day as well, but facts are facts. Go back 14 years and you’ve got 2 seasons where we eclipsed the 7-8 regular season win mark. Yeah we had a nice run back around 2000-2004, but if you want to occasionally break through the upper level of college football you must recruit better than 40-50th.

Kirk’s staff is good for 7-8 regular season wins a year. It’s gonna be hard to go above that very often with the way we recruit. You can get angry at me for saying that, but ITS TRUE.

 

[ChuckThomas12]

Don’t use the word “literally.” You’re no good at it.

I literally think you need to go outside and play in the yard or something, build a fort, etc...because you literally spend way too much time on these message boards.

 

[FranklinHawk]

Cmon man, why make excuses for the staff?

I can cherry pick numbers all day as well, but facts are facts. Go back 14 years and you’ve got 2 seasons where we eclipsed the 7-8 regular season win mark. Yeah we had a nice run back around 2000-2004, but if you want to occasionally break through the upper level of college football you must recruit better than 40-50th.

Kirk’s staff is good for 7-8 regular season wins a year. It’s gonna be hard to go above that very often with the way we recruit. You can get angry at me for saying that, but ITS TRUE.

I generally agree with the bolded in your quote, just not reinforcing it with non-factual bullshit that you throw out there as accurate.

 

[Kilkenny31]

Ha I wondered how long it would take you to respond. You LITERALLY live on these message boards, huh?

Hard to argue with facts though, isn’t it? Kirk is good for 7 or 8 regular season wins. History is history. Let me guess, this next year will be the big one, right?

If it is will you disappear and never come back?

 

[ChuckThomas12]

I generally agree with the bolded in your quote, just not reinforcing it with non-factual bullshit that you throw out there as accurate.

Ok, so factually speaking, based on the last 14 seasons: Kirk is good for breaking the 8 win regular season mark once every seven years.

Why?

Because our recruiting is very average.

It is what it is. Doubtful much changes in year #22.

 

[FlickShagwell]

I literally think you need to go outside and play in the yard or something, build a fort, etc...because you literally spend way too much time on these message boards.

Says the guy who's been on trashing the football team since before I woke up. Get up on the wrong side of the bed, pumpkin? Like every single day of your very clearly miserable life?

Tell us a program that you think Iowa should be as good as from a win perspective. Tell us that program's athletic budget, state population, closest major metro areas, how its in-state rivals do, average recruiting ranking, what the character of its athletes looks like, what style of offense and defense it runs. Illinois and Iowa State are comparable to Iowa, and Illinois is a dumpster fire and Kirk is 3-0 against ISU's incredible coach that you lust after. Our program is superior to theirs in every single facet.

We're all waiting for your answers here. So far they seem to be, play backups in competitive games while sitting the starters, and... general bitching and moaning. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success.

So lay it on us! Who should Iowa be?

 

[FranklinHawk]

Ok, so factually speaking, based on the last 14 seasons: Kirk is good for breaking the 8 win regular season mark once every seven years.

Why?

Because our recruiting is very average.

It is what it is. Doubtful much changes in year #22.

Wait, you call someone out for cherry picking stats and then choose 14 years as your benchmark? You're just trolling at this point.

 

[GO for the GOLD]

Too bad with the way we recruit, 7 or 8 regular season wins is our ceiling except for once a decade. Can’t recruit outside the top 40 consistently and win more than that. It’s been proven time and time again. Kirk, who is drool all over, will get his 7 or 8 regular season wins but that won’t be enough to win the division. Same story different year. We just don’t recruit well enough. Once every 10 years he’ll go above that ceiling. Same reason we’ve finished ranked just twice in the last decade.

Disagree. While our recruiting leaves something to be desired, that is partially offset by player development. Our number of draft picks and all-conf selections show that.

IMO, the real limitation of our program is the coaching of the offense. Lack of creativity, imagination. innovation, variability,.......results in an offense that virtually never controls a game, rarely makes an impact late, and generally is the antithesis of opportunistic. Our inept offense probably costs us 2 games a year.

 

[FlickShagwell]

Wait, you call someone out for cherry picking stats and then choose 14 years as your benchmark? You're just trolling at this point.

He was just trolling the first time he found Hawkeye Report. His earliest posts are trashing Iowa for not hiring Bobby Diaco (HAHAHAHA!!!) because he was going to own us. A few weeks back he used the word "elite" to describe Matt Campbell. He's either a moron or a joker. Either way, fun to pick his idiotic posts apart.

And he's also Go for the Gold - that he's replying to himself in this thread is pure comedy gold. So pathetic.

 

[BBHawk]

Cmon man, why make excuses for the staff?

I can cherry pick numbers all day as well, but facts are facts. Go back 14 years and you’ve got 2 seasons where we eclipsed the 7-8 regular season win mark. Yeah we had a nice run back around 2000-2004, but if you want to occasionally break through the upper level of college football you must recruit better than 40-50th.

Kirk’s staff is good for 7-8 regular season wins a year. It’s gonna be hard to go above that very often with the way we recruit. You can get angry at me for saying that, but ITS TRUE.

What? So now winning bowl games doesn't count?

You are an idiot. Thank God for the Ignore option...

 

[HawkIDrummer]

KFz has been consistently "good". But we've only seen "great" twice in the last 15 years. 2009 and 2015

 

[FlickShagwell]

KFz has been consistently "good". But we've only seen "great" twice in the last 15 years. 2009 and 2015

2019-15 = 2004
10-2 record and a Big Ten title is pretty damned great.

KF is good for a great season every 4-5 years.

There are a ton of fanbases that would love that rate of success. Nebraska fans would volunteer their high school aged daughters for a night with Mo Washington for a great season once every 4-5 years since the millennium.

 

[HawkIDrummer]

2019-15 = 2004
10-2 record and a Big Ten title is pretty damned great.

KF is good for a great season every 4-5 years.

There are a ton of fanbases that would love that rate of success. Nebraska fans would volunteer their high school aged daughters for a night with Mo Washington for a great season once every 4-5 years since the millennium.

2019? Are you making a prediction of 10 wins for this year? ...or just struggling with numbers again.

 

[ichawk24]

He is saying that the 2004 season is within the last 15 seasons, which is 100% accurate. And counting 2004 as a great season. So he is saying "great" once every 5 years or so, disagreeing with your claim of great only twice in the last 15 seasons.

 

[FlickShagwell]

2019? Are you making a prediction of 10 wins for this year? ...or just struggling with numbers again.

Huh? You said "we've only seen "great" twice in the last 15 years. 2009 and 2015."

I cited 2004, which is three times in 15 years. My math is good there, no?

Then 2002 was great, though outside your 15 year window. (I'd include 2003 as well, but that's me) 20 seasons divided by 4 (5 in my mind) great seasons is once every 4 or 5 years.

Am I struggling with numbers or are you just eager to pick a fight on the internet?

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Remember when I said every one of your posts was a massive pile of shit?

I haven't read "every one" of his posts. Judging from that particular sample, I concur with your statement.

 

[CO_hawk]

Says the guy who's been on trashing the football team since before I woke up. Get up on the wrong side of the bed, pumpkin? Like every single day of your very clearly miserable life?

Tell us a program that you think Iowa should be as good as from a win perspective. Tell us that program's athletic budget, closest major metro areas, how its in-state rivals do, average recruiting ranking, what the character of its athletes looks like, what style of offense and defense it runs. Illinois and Iowa State are comparable to Iowa, and Illinois is a dumpster fire and Kirk is 3-0 against ISU's incredible coach that you lust after. Our program is superior to theirs in every single facet.

We're all waiting for your answers here. So far they seem to be, play backups in competitive games while sitting the starters, and... general bitching and moaning. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success.

So lay it on us! Who should Iowa be?

If Im not mistaken Iowa City is 4 hours or less from Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Chicago, St Louis, Kansas City and Omaha. Not to mention all the medium sized cities around. Smack dab in the middle of 6 huge metro areas.... Seems like a good location to me.