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Are you religious?

I would say it means they are disconnected for Christian unity. There is a lot of room between Christian and Atheist. Our founders and many of the French Revolutionaries were deists.

The Eucharist and sacrament of Confession are amazing.

I think you'd like them.
 
Michael Cohen said it, too.

Trump worships himself. That's obvious.

Not going to church doesn't make a person an atheist but it's a pretty strong sign, IMO.
LOL. It's funny that you first say that Trump is an atheist and he hadn't seen a church in decades. When proven wrong you resort to "oh yeah, well a couple other people think he's atheist too".

Also interesting that you think people not going to church is a strong sign of atheism. If that's true there are a LOT more atheists than there are Christians.
 
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LOL. It's funny that you first say that Trump is an atheist and he hadn't seen a church in decades. When proven wrong you resort to "oh yeah, well a couple other people think he's atheist too".

Also interesting that you think people not going to church is a strong sign of atheism. If that's true there are a LOT more atheists than there are Christians.

Trump is definitely an atheist, in my judgement. He worships himself.

I do believe there are more atheists than practicing Christians in America.
 
It's just that easy.

It's as disingenuous as it is hypocritical. Glad I don't have to deal with such massive rationalization.

How so?

I've admitted I have flaws. Definitely.

Always.

I'm not sure what your point is here.
 
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Oh good, the Papal Fluffer has returned.

Hey Brian, do you know that the first action of the crusades was to murder european jews?
 
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Oh good, the Papal Fluffer has returned.

Hey Brian, do you know that the first action of the crusades was to murder european jews?

Yes. Some did. Evil.

That wasn't Jesus's message, of course.

Did you know many saints said most Christians would go to Hell?

There are 10,000 canonized saints.

If people actually obey Jesus's teachings, they become saints.
 
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Agnostic, but non-judgemental of anyone else's leanings or beliefs.

We're all free to believe, not believe, or just accept life as it is without searching for supposed deeper mystical reasons if we want.
 
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And why aren't you posting here anymore?

We need you.


Because it's a shit hole.
Your chosen faith (my former one) has filled history with butchery, hypocrisy, lies and abuse.
I don't give a shit if you're spiritual or not, but the Catholic church is bathed in blood.
That you're here trying to besmirch the reputations of other faiths based on what some followers have done while ignoring what your church has done is typical brian.
 
Because it's a shit hole.
Your chosen faith (my former one) has filled history with butchery, hypocrisy, lies and abuse.
I don't give a shit if you're spiritual or not, but the Catholic church is bathed in blood.
That you're here trying to besmirch the reputations of other faiths based on what some followers have done while ignoring what your church has done is typical brian.

I'm sorry you're so angry. I was an angry atheist myself for years.

It's tough living as a bag of chemicals in a Godless, meaningless universe. Albert Camus knew it. Schopenhauer knew it. Nietszche knew it.

I'm serious. I know how it is.

The Catholic Church is "bathed" in saints, too. 10,000 of them. So many saints!

I never ignored the sinners in the Catholic Church. I merely pointed out that Buddhism has them, too. 5-10% of them. Maybe more.

The FSU site has about 5 right wing posters. You can help balance it out.



 
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I'm sorry you're so angry. I was an angry atheist myself for years.

It's tough living as a bag of chemicals in a Godless, meaningless universe. Albert Camus knew it. Schopenhauer knew it. Nietszche knew it.

I'm serious. I know how it is.

The Catholic Church is "bathed" in saints, too. 10,000 of them. So many saints!

I never ignored the sinners in the Catholic Church. I merely pointed out that Buddhism has them, too. 5-10% of them. Maybe more.

The FSU site has about 5 right wing posters. You can help balance it out.



lol, angry.
I'm irritated that a clown like you is back, but it's clear that no one is policing this place anymore.
You feel free to rationalize the killings that your church makes, I'm done.
But I'm sorry that you're so afraid of living. Perhaps if you had gotten therapy after your traumatic event you wouldn't have ended up in a death cult.
 
lol, angry.
I'm irritated that a clown like you is back, but it's clear that no one is policing this place anymore.
You feel free to rationalize the killings that your church makes, I'm done.
But I'm sorry that you're so afraid of living. Perhaps if you had gotten therapy after your traumatic event you wouldn't have ended up in a death cult.

I did get therapy and I saw many doctors. I wanted to rule out natural causes and mental illness. They certified me sane. :)

I'm only here for a couple days inviting posters to the FSU site.

You are certainly free to have your own beliefs, Belem. I do believe atheism is an existential dead end that won't do you any good. Or anyone else.

If you read this thread, you will see I absolutely acknowledge the sinners in the Church.

That really has nothing to do with Jesus's message.

You can't just judge all the sinners and ignore the saints, if you want to be fair.

Lol I'm not "afraid of living."

I'm very happy.

Are you?

I wish you nothing but joy and happiness in life.
 
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How so?

I've admitted I have flaws. Definitely.

Always.

I'm not sure what your point is here.
It's that you're a hypocrite. You acknowledge "flaws" yet continue to display the flawed behavior openly and willingly. And then have the gall to call others out for the same "flaws". You're worse than a hypocrite - you're sanctimonious.
 
It's that you're a hypocrite. You acknowledge "flaws" yet continue to display the flawed behavior openly and willingly. And then have the gall to call others out for the same "flaws". You're worse than a hypocrite - you're sanctimonious.

My point was: We're all flawed.

Every honest human will admit that.

What do you think?
 
My point was: We're all flawed.

Every honest human will admit that.

What do you think?
I think that's a ****ing cop out that you and too many others who have found "religion" use as a crutch to continue with your flawed behavior rather than fixing it.
 
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I did get therapy and I saw many doctors. I wanted to rule out natural causes and mental illness. They certified me sane. :)

I'm only here for a couple days inviting posters to the FSU site.

You are certainly free to have your own beliefs, Belem. I do believe atheism is an existential dead end that won't do you any good. Or anyone else.

If you read this thread, you will see I absolutely acknowledge the sinners in the Church.

That really has nothing to do with Jesus's message.

You can't just judge all the sinners and ignore the saints, if you want to be fair.

Lol I'm not "afraid of living."

I'm very happy.

Are you?

I wish you nothing but joy and happiness in life.
JFC you're dense.
Not the members of the church, the Church. It's directly lead to the death out countless people.
Shit, the church just recently apologized for killing one of the many scientists they had put to death.
Your church is drenched in blood.

BTW, I'd try another doctor, whoever declared you sane hasn't seen your posting history. Out of all the nutbags who have posted here you're the #1 vote getter for "which poster is likely to be a serial murder?"
 
I think that's a ****ing cop out that you and too many others who have found "religion" use as a crutch to continue with your flawed behavior rather than fixing it.

I've improved SOME flaws. It's a life long process.

Like every human, I have good and bad qualities.

Do you have flaws?
 
You're worse than a hypocrite - you're sanctimonious.
That’s it, exactly. There is nothing worse IMO than a convert (a drug addled atheist, no less) lecturing others, some lifelong practitioners, about their lack of virtue.

For the record, I didn’t know this dude had a prior history of proselytizing on this forum. Live and learn.
 
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JFC you're dense.
Not the members of the church, the Church. It's directly lead to the death out countless people.
Shit, the church just recently apologized for killing one of the many scientists they had put to death.
Your church is drenched in blood.

BTW, I'd try another doctor, whoever declared you sane hasn't seen your posting history. Out of all the nutbags who have posted here you're the #1 vote getter for "which poster is likely to be a serial murder?"

It's NOT the Church teachings that are to blame.

Killing, rape, child abuse are mortal sins. The vast majority of Catholics do NOT commit these acts.

The Church is responsible for countless charitable acts and 10,000 saints. Why do you ignore this?

Where was I voted most likely to be serial killer? I missed that. Link, please?


 
Just curious about what the board thinks on religion and God.

Me, personally, I was raised Lutheran but my parents weren’t too serious about it. Now, I’m kinda like whatever. I honestly go back and forth on whether religion has done more harm than good. The Bible is full of insane, unbelievable shit. And I think it’s created a lot of dumb, problematic people who interpret everything literally.

For those who are religious, not trying to start a fight per se, but I am curious about your rationale and reason for believing what you do.
I am, and probably an 8 of 10. Converted to Roman Catholicism about five years ago, because it made sense. By which I mean, for all of its worldly problems and foibles, it generally spends a century or so thinking before speaking, is pretty open minded before it does speak, is remarkably coherent once it does, and is much more subtle about how it references “doctrine” versus mere “tradition” or mere “ritual” than most realize.

In a broader sense, I like how you framed the question - using “religious” rather than “spiritual”. While there is lots of good “philosophy” about how to live, that’s not really religion, properly defined, though it’s certainly a part of it. Religion is distinct in that it entails one’s relationship to the deity, where again, there is remarkable diversity of thought.
 
That’s it, exactly. There is nothing worse IMO than a convert (a drug addled atheist, no less) lecturing others, some lifelong practitioners, about their lack of virtue.

For the record, I didn’t know this dude had a prior history of proselytizing on this forum. Live and learn.

You were the one lecturing, actually.

I merely pointed out your hypocrisy in condemning the Catholic Church for abuse and embracing Buddhism, which has the same abuse issues.
 
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gawd i love this clip. The only thing better is that the bishop was played by pharoah's charioteer in the ten commandments, and when he's playing golf in the driving rain, they're playing the theme music from that movie.
 
It's NOT the Church teachings that are to blame.

Killing, rape, child abuse are mortal sins. The vast majority of Catholics do NOT commit these acts.

The Church is responsible for countless charitable acts and 10,000 saints. Why do you ignore this?

Where was I voted most likely to be serial killer? I missed that. Link, please?


You are seriously trying to use the church defining it's own members as 'saints' as somehow relevant?
I ignored it because it's a ridiculous argument.
The vast majority of catholics may not be criminals but what the CHURCH has done of the past 2 millennia IS.
 
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I'll always have flaws until I'm dead.

Do you have flaws, Riley?

You sure do like judging others.
There you go again, calling someone else out for what you're doing. Surprised you're not a Trump fan.

Of course I have flaws. It's a stupid question and misses the point. I'm not using my flaws as an excuse.
 
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