Are you religious?

[nu2u]

Don't tell you? It's all over the news endlessly.

Here's something they REALLY don't tell you:

The Catholic Church is the largest non-governmental charity in the world.

Catholic Church: World’s biggest charitable organization

Some consider the Catholic Church as a spiritual institution founded for a spiritual purpose – and only that. And I recall Josef Stalin’s quip to French

usa.inquirer.net

The Catholic church’s new motto: yes we committed mass torture and genocide but hey, we’re generous too!

 

[BrianNole777]

The Catholic church’s new motto: yes we committed mass torture and genocide but hey, we’re generous too!

The vast majority of clergy were not involved in any abuse. Like 90%.

Still, that has nothing to do with Jesus.

Buddhism has plenty of abuse. And did you see the video of the Dalai Lama trying get a young boy to suck his tongue a few months ago?

Why would you leave Jesus for this??

Temples no longer safe for children

News about monks

www.bangkokpost.com

 

[BrianNole777]

The Catholic church’s new motto: yes we committed mass torture and genocide but hey, we’re generous too!

Do you approve of this from your spiritual leader?

The Dalai Lama is on video trying to kiss a boy.

You said you left the Catholic Church because a bishop covered up sex abuse but you stay in Buddhism when the DALAI LAMA does it himself?

Please explain your reasoning.

 

[unsubstantiated]

No, I wasn't buying it even as a little kid.

Religious and spiritual are different. I believe in God. Religions are inventions of men. Often to make money.

This. Like many, I believe there’s a higher power, but it ain’t the one we learned about.

I figure it’s all symbolism, Father, Son, Holy Ghost, Mother Mary. All metaphors people used for things they didn’t understand. IDK, Mother Nature, the Earth, the sky, the seasons….. no idea.

I will throw up a quick conversation of gratitude quite often, followed by a few prayers. I was taught the Our Father and Hail Mary. One was the “Lord” character’s prayer, and the other was said to please him greatly. Good enough for me.

 

[nu2u]

Do you approve of this from your spiritual leader?

The Dalai Lama is on video trying to kiss a boy.

You said you left the Catholic Church because a bishop covered up sex abuse but you stay in Buddhism when the DALAI LAMA does it himself?

Please explain your reasoning.

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haha first I’ve seen that. I’m more of a student of the Theravada school of Buddhism. The Dalai Lama is not my spiritual leader but I do respect him. As far as I know, he has not sodomized, tortured, or otherwise abused children.

I can tell already that you have a poor understanding of Buddhism. Best leave it right there.

 

[BrianNole777]

haha first I’ve seen that. I’m more of a student of the Theravada school of Buddhism. The Dalai Lama is not my spiritual leader but I do respect him. As far as I know, he has not sodomized, tortured, or otherwise abused children.

I can tell already that you have a poor understanding of Buddhism. Best leave it right there.

You are behaving as a hypocrite.

Do you condone abuse within Buddhism?

If you practiced consistent ethics, you would leave Buddhism, right?

Buddhism and abuse - The unspeakable truth – DW – 07/01/2023

In August 2017, the Dalai Lama’s Buddhist faith community was left reeling by allegations of abuse. It was claimed that the world-famous Lama Sogyal Rinpoche had sexually abused students over many years.

www.google.com

 

[Chishawk1425]

Lutheran

 

[BrianNole777]

haha first I’ve seen that. I’m more of a student of the Theravada school of Buddhism. The Dalai Lama is not my spiritual leader but I do respect him. As far as I know, he has not sodomized, tortured, or otherwise abused children.

I can tell already that you have a poor understanding of Buddhism. Best leave it right there.

There's abuse in the Theravada School of Buddhism, too.

Will you leave it or do you condone child abuse?

Sex, Scandals, and Buddhist Monks in Thailand — The Revealer

Numerous scandals are altering the lives of Thai Buddhist monks

therevealer.org

 

[nu2u]

Do you approve of this from your spiritual leader?

The Dalai Lama is on video trying to kiss a boy.

You said you left the Catholic Church because a bishop covered up sex abuse but you stay in Buddhism when the DALAI LAMA does it himself?

Please explain your reasoning.


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haha first I’ve seen that. I’m more of a student of the Theravada school of Buddhism. There Dalai Lama is not my spiritual leader but I do respect him. As far as I know, he has not sodomized, tortured, or otherwise abused children.

I can tell already that you have a poor understanding of Buddhism. Best leave it right there in

You are behaving as a hypocrite.

Do you condone abuse within Buddhism?

If you practiced consistent ethics, you would leave Buddhism, right?

Buddhism and abuse - The unspeakable truth – DW – 07/01/2023

In August 2017, the Dalai Lama’s Buddhist faith community was left reeling by allegations of abuse. It was claimed that the world-famous Lama Sogyal Rinpoche had sexually abused students over many years.

www.google.com

Again you are raising issues of supposed abuse within Tibetan Buddhism. I already told you that I am not a student of that sect. If Tibetan monks abused children they should be punished. You have a shallow understanding of Buddhism that a perfunctory google search cannot fix.

 

[BrianNole777]

haha first I’ve seen that. I’m more of a student of the Theravada school of Buddhism. There Dalai Lama is not my spiritual leader but I do respect him. As far as I know, he has not sodomized, tortured, or otherwise abused children.

I can tell already that you have a poor understanding of Buddhism. Best leave it right there in

Again you are raising issues of supposed abuse within Tibetan Buddhism. I already told you that I am not a student of that sect. If Tibetan monks abused children they should be punished. You have a shallow understanding of Buddhism that a perfunctory google search cannot fix.

My point is that you're a hypocrite. Your sect has abuse in it.

Your mantra seems to be: "I only condone child abuse if Buddhists do it!"

Is that right?

 

[gamedayron01]

Disgusting.

 

[BrianNole777]

haha first I’ve seen that. I’m more of a student of the Theravada school of Buddhism. There Dalai Lama is not my spiritual leader but I do respect him. As far as I know, he has not sodomized, tortured, or otherwise abused children.

I can tell already that you have a poor understanding of Buddhism. Best leave it right there in

Again you are raising issues of supposed abuse within Tibetan Buddhism. I already told you that I am not a student of that sect. If Tibetan monks abused children they should be punished. You have a shallow understanding of Buddhism that a perfunctory google search cannot fix.

One of your monks impregnated a 12 year old girl.

Will you stop supporting the Theravada school of Buddhism??

Buddhist monks walk away from sex-abuse cases

The meeting took place at Wat Dhammaram, a cavernous Theravada Buddhist temple on the southwest edge of Chicago. A tearful 12-year-old told three monks how another monk had turned off the lights du…

www.chicagotribune.com

 

[gamedayron01]

One of your monks impregnated a 12 year old girl.

Will you stop supporting the Theravada school of Buddhism??

Buddhist monks walk away from sex-abuse cases

The meeting took place at Wat Dhammaram, a cavernous Theravada Buddhist temple on the southwest edge of Chicago. A tearful 12-year-old told three monks how another monk had turned off the lights du…

www.chicagotribune.com

Priests rape boys. More than one.

 

[BrianNole777]

Disgusting.

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Priests have a lower abuse rate than the general population.

Certainly lower than public school teachers:


The Church has used best practices to deal with this issue since 2002.

The incidents of clerical abuse in recent years (i.e., since 2002) are down to a trickle. Many of the newer abuse cases since 2002 have been perpetrated by visiting international priests here on vacation or sabbatical who have not gone through the extensive training and screening that American clerics now go through.


The Dallas Charter and subsequent Church reforms have resulted in a number of industry-standard and even groundbreaking policies and procedures to keep children safe in Church-related activities and keep abusing priests out of ministry.

Separating Facts About Clergy Abuse From Fiction

Quality research and reason need to take precedence over emotion if we truly want to keep children and families safe from sexual abuse in the the Church or anywhere.

www.psychologytoday.com

Priests Commit No More Abuse Than Other Males

The priesthood is being cast as the refuge of pederasts. In fact, priests seem to abuse children at the same rate as everyone else.

www.newsweek.com

 

[RNHawk]

And I get why you believe in this. But politics played game back then as well. Easy for someone to come up with a story

But it is odd that the Christian church exploded after he was crucified

 

[nu2u]

My point is that you're a hypocrite. Your sect has abuse in it.

Your mantra seems to be: "I only condone child abuse if Buddhists do it!"

Is that right?

I get that you’re a little defensive with the church’s history but you’re reaching here and again you have little understanding of Buddhism in general, it’s history and philosophy.

 

[BrianNole777]

I get that you’re a little defensive with the church’s history but you’re reaching here and again you have little understanding of Buddhism in general, it’s history and philosophy.

Please stop deflecting. I'm not reaching. You're behaving as a hypocrite would.

Child abuse within your school of Buddhism is acceptable to you, right?

If it's not, you'll leave it like you left the Catholic Church, right?

The survivor who broke the Shambhala sexual assault story

Last summer, the Shambhala Buddhist community was stunned to learn that its leader, Sakyong Mipham Rinpoche, had sexually assaulted numerous female students. The story was not broken by any of the several Buddhist news outlets, but instead by Andrea Winn, a former Shambhala member and survivor...

www.cjr.org

 

[BrianNole777]

I get that you’re a little defensive with the church’s history but you’re reaching here and again you have little understanding of Buddhism in general, it’s history and philosophy.

I took a Buddhist meditation class in 2016. Your post has nothing to do with the abuse in your school.

I've given links that show child abuse within YOUR school of Buddhism.

If you were consistent in your ethics, you'd leave Buddhism rather than enable it by staying.

Why don't you leave??

 

[Jimmy McGill]

But it is odd that the Christian church exploded after he was crucified

What is your point?

Cults explode as well. Doesn't mean there is any sense to it.

I believe he was crucified. I don't believe he resurrected. I also don't believe in unicorns

 

[Colonoscopy]

Religious and spiritual are different. I believe in God. Religions are inventions of men. Often to make money.

I didn't know you were a woman

 

[RNHawk]

What is your point?

Cults explode as well. Doesn't mean there is any sense to it.

I believe he was crucified. I don't believe he resurrected. I also don't believe in unicorns

Do you believe the Old Testament talked about Jesus getting crucified?

 

[RNHawk]

What is your point?

Cults explode as well. Doesn't mean there is any sense to it.

I believe he was crucified. I don't believe he resurrected. I also don't believe in unicorns

It just makes you think that something happened to spur on that explosion

 

[BrianNole777]

What is your point?

Cults explode as well. Doesn't mean there is any sense to it.

I believe he was crucified. I don't believe he resurrected. I also don't believe in unicorns

Your wife sounds like she's got her act together. Maybe she knows what the truth is.

 

[nu2u]

Please address the points. I'm not reaching. You're behaving as a hypocrite.

Child abuse within your school of Buddhism is acceptable to you, right?

If it's not, you'll leave it like you left the Catholic Church, right?

I already said that Buddhist philosophy fits me better than Christianity. I don’t approve of abuse anywhere.

I reluctantly stayed with the church for a long time as the abuses became more evident.

As I stated, the last straw was when my parish bishop, Robert Carlson, testified under oath that he was uncertain if it was illegal for a priest to sexually abuse a 14 year old boy.

The flagrant deceit and devious cover-up became too much. Carlson was not punished, he was rewarded!!

The abuse and torture of hundreds of thousands of indigenous children and recent discoveries of mass graves more or less sealed the deal for good. This is GENOCIDE - a crime against humanity and a fact which Pope Francis was finally forced to admit.

 

[BrianNole777]

I already said that Buddhist philosophy fits me better than Christianity. I don’t approve of abuse anywhere.

I reluctantly stayed with the church for a long time as the abuses became more evident.

As I stated, the last straw was when my parish bishop, Robert Carlson, testified under oath that he was uncertain if it was illegal for a priest to sexually abuse a 14 year old boy.

The flagrant deceit and devious cover-up became too much. Carlson was not punished, he was rewarded!!

The abuse and torture of hundreds of thousands of indigenous children and recent discoveries of mass graves more or less sealed the deal for good. This is GENOCIDE - a crime against humanity and a fact which Pope Francis has finally forced to admit.

You're deflecting again. There's proven child abuse in YOUR Buddhist school and yet you stay and support it!

You really can't see your hypocrisy here??

If you weren't a hypocrite, you would leave Buddhism today.

This isn't complicated.

Buddhist group admits sexual abuse by teachers

Shambhala International leaders promise to take action against ‘abhorrent sexual behaviour’

www.google.com

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Do you believe the Old Testament talked about Jesus getting crucified?

Old Testament is a folly. Believe it you wish

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Your wife sounds like she's got her act together. Maybe she knows what the truth is.

Nah, it you believe you need religion to have your act together you are sorrowfully wrong. Plenty of righteous people in this world have come and gone without religion

 

[BrianNole777]

Nah, it you believe you need religion to have your act together you are sorrowfully wrong. Plenty of righteous people in this world have come and gone without religion

I meant your wife's belief in Jesus and the fact that she sometimes drags you to Church.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Greatest fiction ever told

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I meant your wife's belief in Jesus and the fact that she sometimes drags you to Church.

I don't need church to feel good about myself

 

[BrianNole777]

I don't need church to feel good about myself

Do your kids go to Church like their Mother?

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I could be wrong on it all. Perhaps I'm going to hell. But I don't think so

 

[BrianNole777]

I could be wrong on it all. Perhaps I'm going to hell. But I don't think so

Your wife sounds like a great lady.

Maybe she's right about it all?

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Do your kids go to Church like their Mother?

Nope. They see through the B.S.

 

[BrianNole777]

Nope. They see through the B.S.

Mixed marriages are tough.

My Dad is a totally unchurched protestant. He's 83 years old and nearing eternity.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Mixed marriages are tough.

My Dad is a totally unchurched protestant. He's 83 years old and nearing eternity.

Protestant is the only way i would ever get back into religion. I can't stand the narrow mildness of the Catholic Church. Priests should be able to marry. Protestants should be able to take communion, gays should not be abolished by the church.

A welcoming religion is what people need.

 

[nu2u]

You're deflecting again. There's proven child abuse in your Buddhist school and yet you stay and support it.

You really can't see your hypocrisy here??

If you weren't a hypocrite, you would leave Buddhism today.

This isn't complicated.

Buddhist group admits sexual abuse by teachers

Shambhala International leaders promise to take action against ‘abhorrent sexual behaviour’

www.google.com

Dude, you’re a little thick. I have repeatedly stated in this thread that Buddhism is a better fit for me than Christianity. Buddhism appeals to me and has since college decades ago.

I was baptized and raised in the Catholic Church. I was indoctrinated, cutting ties wasn’t quick or easy. The massive scandals and heinous coverups were too much….. church leaders protecting child molesters - even to the point of purposefully lying about it - was a breaking point.

Do you believe arch bishop Carlson when he swore that he did not know it was illegal to sodomize a young boy?

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Dude, you’re a little thick. I have repeatedly stated in this thread that Buddhism is a better fit for me than Christianity. Buddhism appeals to me and has since college decades ago.

I was baptized and raised in the Catholic Church. I was indoctrinated, cutting ties wasn’t quick or easy. The massive scandals and heinous coverups were too much….. church leaders protecting child molesters - even to the point of purposefully lying about it - was a breaking point.

Do you believe arch bishop Carlson when he swore that he did not know it was illegal to sodomize a young boy?

I totally could get into buddism just for self health

 

[BrianNole777]

Dude, you’re a little thick. I have repeatedly stated in this thread that Buddhism is a better fit for me than Christianity. Buddhism appeals to me and has since college decades ago.

I was baptized and raised in the Catholic Church. I was indoctrinated, cutting ties wasn’t quick or easy. The massive scandals and heinous coverups were too much….. church leaders protecting child molesters - even to the point of purposefully lying about it - was a breaking point.

Do you believe arch bishop Carlson when he swore that he did not know it was illegal to sodomize a young boy?

Be consistent and stop deflecting.

I've shown you how there is abuse and coverup in YOUR school of Buddhism and all you do is deflect back to the church and say Buddhism "suits" you better regardless of the abuse!

There is abuse in your school of Buddhism and you remain SILENT about it.

Absurd!

If you were REALLY against abuse, you would leave Buddhism today.

If you don't, you're a hypocrite!

Full stop.

 

[BrianNole777]

I totally could get into buddism just for self health

Watch out for the abuse that @nu2u ignores.

I am in the Catholic Church trying to make it better. If I see or hear of any abuse, I call 911.