I don't really take much issue with the replay rulings yesterday, but I do take issue with fabricated, phantom holding calls. This chronic ineptness is more than a coincidence. I just don't think officials like KF/staff very much.
BF goes after the replay officals
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Isn’t that why we have replay, to get the call right?
I get that refs/umps make mistakes at all levels. It happens, but that doesn’t mean I can’t question one of their calls or even disagree with their interpretations of the rules. How often does the “rules expert” on Fox disagree with an official’s review call? Happened at least once in the Iowa/Minn game.
I was just asking because the refs in the Bears game made a horrible call does that somehow justify all other horrible calls?
It wasn't the ref that made the unbelievably horrible call in the Bears game, that comes from the replay officials in NY and I think the one that over turned the Bears TD needs to be suspended. I don't know what he was watching but that was a terrible over rule. No I am in no way a Bears fan but that call was bad.
No, and I made no such suggestion. If that's the reason for your aggression toward my posts, it has been misdirected and unnecessary. (not that that's a unique thing on this board)
The aggression came from you guy.
I asked if one bad call justified another and pointed out it was a TE and not a WR. You’re the one who became hostile with a smart ass remark, but then can’t handle it when someone gets smart back at you. Also pretty common with this board.
I'm sorry I don't understand pointless, baseless drivel.
I made a comment and you challenged it; that makes you the aggressor.
You've since made extremely thoughtful and witty comebacks such as "clearly you know what you're talking about" and "of course not."
My 11-year old niece has similar argument skills to yours. Is that you, Hannah?
You're the one being an a-hole. Now replying to "of course not" with calling him your niece? Well done - extremely thoughtful and witty.
The officials blew that call horribly. There were 4 or 5 gophers holding him up for 5 seconds after his forward progress was stopped and they still wouldn't blew the whistle. Eventually the ball is going to get stripped. Terrible officiating.
Pretty much the classic case of dishing it out but not being able to take it. Then get all butthurt. Then play dumb....
Exactly. You can’t go and tune someone up after a player is down by contact because the whistle hasn’t blown yet.
Or if they step out of bounds....
Someone calling someone else a “tool” ...and in the same sentence saying they are not mature enough. Quit sucking your thumb it will be alright
A football play is over by rule....listen to every play next Saturday. There will be numerous plays where there will be no whistle or a chirp really late if something extra is happening.
I understand that. But if a whistle is actually blown on a play doesn't that indicate that the play is over?
What he’s saying is that a whistle can end a play (technically the rule of forward progress being stopped), but not every play ends with a whistle saying the play is dead.
Which is what he responded to: “I always thought play was live until the whistle blows.”
The announcer said during the game that a fumble ruling can be over turned even if a whistle is blown. The whistle only prevents the recovering team from advancing the ball if overturned. That was confusing to me even though the whistle was blown after the ball was loose in our game. I was under the mindset that the whistle prevents a call from being overturned, NFL and college but with how rules change I have no clue.
To me, this was the questionable one, not the butler fumble. Replay showed the whistle hadn't blown when the ball came out on butlers, so it sucked, but it was the right call.
That interception where the ball hit the ground was a bad call IMO. Looked right in real time, but to me, the replay showed enough to say it wasn't an INT. Even that wasn't as bad as...
The holding calls, IMO, were the most egregious, calling those ticky tack would be giving them too much credit.
If we'd have executed, none of it would have mattered.
So the defense can hold up a RB who’s trying to go to the ground and have two or three teammates come in and rip the ball out?
At what point do you declare the RB’s forward progress has stopped? When the defense stops carrying him forward? It was not the correct call and the refs whistle has nothing to do with it.
It was shown on TV that KF yelled at the officials on that play. Don't know why some "fans" have a problem with KF writing down things. Reminds me of "fans" having a problem with TDavis clapping.
Iowa is 41st out of 130 (129+1 transitional) teams in terms of penalties assessed. So the evidence doesn't support your conclusion.
I like fiery coaches who use emotion to fire up their team. However, a profanity-laced tirade in the press box isn't firing up your team because no one even knows about it. Additionally, there was enough concern about it that they posted security at the door of the replay booth before Brian returned.
What does that have to do with anything? How many of the called penalties were actual infractions.
It's like saying it's fair because each team in basketball had 10 fouls even though one team (typically MSU) has fouled 20 times and the Hawks only 7...
And i don't think the refs have an agenda against us... but those were some bad calls.
The real problem Brian Ferentz should be worried about is not whether the referees are making the right calls , some will go your way and some will not.
The real concern is what needs to be done offensively to score more than s couple of touchdowns a game
The real concern is what needs to be done offensively to score more than s couple of touchdowns a game
That didn't happen and his forward progress hadn't stopped. I can see your argument in slow motion but not at full speed. Initially I thought a whistle had blown before it came out, which in my mind meant play over. But in replay, the whistle was after. Tough break. Right call.
I’m not even bringing up the whistle. It means nothing in this play. Not a thing.
I’m talking about a Minnesota player holding Butler up and carrying him forward. It’s as clear as day. Watch Butler trying to get himself down because he knows that Minnesota players are ripping at the ball. Butler’s forward momentum has stopped. He’s is being held up and drug forward, while Minny teammates rip the ball away. I saw it live from just behind the Minny bench and I watched several times on DVR.
As for the whistle. The only thing the whistle did was prevent Minny from was returning (advancing) the alleged fumble since Butler was ruled down by contact during live play.
Butler moves the ball 5 total yards after initial contact. 4 1/2 of those yards he was backwards with his back to the Iowa goal line.
Watch the replays while the Ref is reviewing it. Butler is trying to go down but he is clearly being held up. He’s snapping his back towards the ground and going nowhere.
Watch the replays while the Ref is reviewing it. Butler is trying to go down but he is clearly being held up. He’s snapping his back towards the ground and going nowhere.
Butler's fumble was a fumble. Have to wonder if the elbow had anything to do with it, I wish he would have gone for a medical and been a beast next year. The pick was not a pick. DID ANYONE NOTICE WE AUDIBLED INTO A BIG PASS ON THAT PLAY?
Huh!?!? The elbow or the two guys holding him up while a third guy rips the ball out. Either one. A head scratcher.
Passion?
Brian's inappropriate outburst/temper tantrum drew negative attention to himself and the team. He, [IMO] needs to do a much better job in managing the offense, which is a big job and he has little/too limited experience.
It was a fumble. The reason BF was likely upset was because he was likely mad that they'd played Butler only to find out the ball security is going to be an issue with that huge brace. I had a real problem with Butler taking late game reps with the ball in our end. That, to me, was taking unnecessary risk.
The holding calls were inconsistent as they are in every game.
There are a lot of things to focus on other than some bad calls. I'd be happier if we were putting that energy in teaching o line play.
The holding calls were inconsistent as they are in every game.
There are a lot of things to focus on other than some bad calls. I'd be happier if we were putting that energy in teaching o line play.
